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I never did give them the benefit of the doubt. Like you I didn't know his health but I went under the assumption that he wasn't hurt because he was still pitching just not as effectively. If his MRI's and what not showed anything wrong ,which Rodon would surely be aware of, then why would he still continue to pitch ? That's why from the beginning I was saying they should give him the QO. I will never understand picking up the $16M option on a relief pitcher who sucked for you in a short period of time over giving an $18M QO to one of the best starting pitchers in baseball who pitched his heart out for you to help you make the playoffs and without him for the majority of the 2nd half the Sox were barely above .500 . Not only did they pitch him in situations he apparently couldn't handle but then tried to justify what they traded for him by spending the majority of the off season trying to get rid of him. The odd thing is they pitched Rodon in the 1st half as if there was zero chance his arm would get tired in the 2nd half when they should 've been pitching him less because of the time missed the previous 2 years and tried to keep him available for the playoffs. It's as if they had no clue or didn't care about their best pitcher being available for the playoffs. And that kind of thinking worries me when the same group is handling Kopech.

From what I can see the Kimbrel option was in the news Nov. 6 and the QO offer decision Nov. 7 so approx. the same time. I'm sure they decided what to do on both way before then.

Didn't have to wait at all to know he was worth the QO. I know the argument always was that the Sox know him best with regards to his medicals which is fair. However it's Hahn's job to improve the White Sox and not to improve the chances of other teams signing him for cheaper or to just throw away draft picks. If Rodon accepted the QO we got a guy who was among the best pitchers in baseball when he was pitching. If he refuses it the Sox get a draft pick and make it more difficult for others to sign him .The arm tiring was totally expected given how few innings he pitched the previous 2 years. The Giants signed him with a better conditioned arm because of those innings he pitched last year. His meds must've looked OK to the Giants. You can make up a lot of scenarios of what could've happened if Rodon took the QO . Maybe they don't sign Cueto and Vince Velasquez . Maybe they don't give Leury 3 years . Maybe they don't pick up Kimbrels option and free up money to get different players like Eduardo Escobar instead. There are all kinds of ways the money could've been allocated better.

We'll have to wait 5 months to see if they make the playoffs and who the pitcher will be.

The Sox with a fine game by the goalie and good forechecking, skate to a 3-1 win

Guess it wasn't so hard for some teams to find starting pitching.

Urias is a tough customer but after watching the Sox game its nice to see the players clearly.

Cubs with the empty net

Let's strive mightily to keep this game boring.

Let's go Jose ?

Cubs scored a goal that inning.

No it wasn't you calling him by the wrong name that jinxed him at all

If the President doesn't know his name.....

Sox in games with scores more like hockey games

That ball hitting the base made it easier on him. A big juicy hop always helps.

3 dudes who would look good on the Sox right now.

Common sense prevails. A healthy but bad Keuchel is better than just about all alternatives now.You dump Keuchel now and one of Gio, Cease or Kopech go down what then ?

Nope

Don't need fresh players with the record we have , need the best players in the lineup that they can muster with the injured ones out.

Pirates of the Caribbean music

For all the times people talk about sample sizes and the need for lefty power, with the rest of the guys in the lineup also struggling and Gavin's performance last year and clearly being the heavy in the Vaughn playing time saga I'm sorry but I'm not seeing a lot of fairness towards him. It has always been about Vaughn and it will continue to be. All that being said Sheets has to step it up along with many of the others getting significant AB's. Given how badly most of the board wanted to pay Conforto I'm not real comfortable trusting most of who are the same guys shitting on Sheets. Sheets takes AB's away from Vaughn and he isn't Conforto and there's a lot of misdirected anger at him.

Si !

He's very generous with waitresses.

Because he's always been the fall guy for Vaughn's supposed lack of AB's so he doesn't get a pass even though there aren't a whole lot of guys lighting the world on fire offensively on this team yet. Vaughn's high offensive WAR so far is just about wiped out by his terrible defensive WAR. The Sox only have 3 guys currently on the team now with a positive offensive WAR.

92 pitches . I think he's done but not 100% sure.