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Remember me writing to you about Eloy ?

Hahn's reactionary moves do not necessarily improve the team but you can always hope that he can manage it without trading Montgomery or Ramos. Usually it's just Tony said more relief pitching because JR said let's just ignore lefthandedness and starting pitching and just fill in with scrubs like we did in the rebuild

Just go back to the thread where it was discussed and ask the people who said they shouldn't have or implied that the front office knew best .

There are different ways to skin a cat of course but I guess you are being intentionally disingenuous. The Brave were limping through the season and were 51-54 . Most importantly they didn't have the same guy as GM at the helm of the rebuild as the guy who had ruined the team in the 1st place. Anthopoulos had come to Atlanta four years earlier to clean up the mess left behind by the previous front office, whose illegal signings in Latin America cost the team 13 prospects, wrecked their ability to pursue premium international talent for two years and got the previous GM, John Coppolella, banned from baseball for life. ANthopoulos made mid season gambles that paid off. Plus before the season started they signed Charlie Morton, Drew Smyly, Josh Tomlin and Marcell Ozuna to a team that had lost in the ALCS. They also had Freeman on a big money contract and had signed Acuna earlier to a $100M contract . Do those off season moves or those $100M contracts look anything like anything the Sox have done recently ? The Sox idea of investing is to invest in relief pitching in every situation. How long has LH hitting been an area of need for the Sox ? Who did they get at the trade deadline last year and the past off season to fill that void ?

You seem to have trouble grasping what I mean by "investing" even though you saw what I posted about all the starting pitchers signed during the off season and all my posts about resigning Rodon. Are you intentionally being disingenuous ? The Giolito, Kopech and Cease moves were start of the rebuild moves. Lynn was cheap when they traded for him for just 1 year and resigned him for 2yrs/$38M. Kopech, as good as he might be, is an infant in terms of starting pitching time. Big time teams with hopes of winning a World Series sign big time pitchers. Cubs did it with Lester and Astros traded for Verlander. Keuchel was good for the Covid season and has sucked since then.

He is right though. I edited my "Never" post to say pretty much the same thing before I saw Two Guns post.

You left out TLR although you did say everyone so that includes him.

Never, he had his chance this off season and paying for relievers and scrubs and dealing with Kimbrel were the extent of his and JR's "vision".

Needed help against RHP not LHP.

I was thinking about that Cardinals DH all during the 2 games. I was waiting to see if anyone brought it up !

So then what's you solution for winning the World Series without investing in Starting pitching ? Is it to keep relying on who you have even if its getting older or too young to know if they can pitch a whole season and signing bargain bin guys like Velasquez and Cueto and hoping they all stay healthy too ?

And I didn't even mention I was ranting about the Sox abusing him all during the 2021 season too and predicted he'd be too tired to be effective in the playoffs. I said his arm was fatigued when others said he was injured. I've been right about everything related to Carlos Rodon going back to that thread I made sometime after the all star break with hundreds and hundreds of people saying trust the Sox, they know him best he shouldn't get a QO , they should never resign him, sign or 3,4 or 5 arm ,any pitcher but not Rodon. You don't need to replace Rodon thats why Kopech is starting now. It's like no one cares about having the best pitching possible during the season . ARe the guys who signed in the Rodon range all pitching like Rodon and are they all guaranteed to make the playoffs. ? Let's keep track of starting pitchers signed this off season in the $12-$25M range for 1, 2 or 3 seasons and see where they all are in the playoffs or if they could even pitch their teams into the playoffs. Heck while we're at it lets even keep track of all the high priced guys who signed much higher deals, Scherzer, Ray, Gausman, Eduardo Rodriguez and see where they are late in the season or in the playoffs. A lot of teams this off season invested in starting pitchers who cost then at least $10M for a season . Not only do the Sox not invest $20M/yr but not even $10M on a single starting pitcher. Some of these guys don't exactly look like the healthiest bunch either,. Verlander 2yrs/$50M Kershaw 1 yr./$17M Stroman 3ys/$71M Kikuchi 3yrs./$36 Jon Gray 4yrs/ $56M Steven Matz 4yrs/$44M Anthony DeSclafani 3yrs/$36 Syndergaard 1yr/$21M

ANd lets not forget he had hardly pitched in 2 years and when you pitch 150 innings like he did in 2021 you are more likely to pitch longer in 2022 . I still don't get your aversion to having a great pitcher on your team during the regular season. It's like you want a bad Keuchel , Velasquez, Lambert and Cueto starting games. You could say that BS about" it's what you do for me late in the season" for any pitcher. No pitcher in April comes with a guarantee that says " will be healthy for the playoffs". You act as if the playoffs are guaranteed . Are you that spoiled already by 2 playoff seasons in a row that you now take making the playoffs for granted no matter who the Sox throw out on the mound and the field ?

Long season so Sox should get healthier and the hitters will come around. Some days, usually on the road, we will get total suck and other days total bliss. The hot guys will cool and the cool guys heat up. Players and teams in baseball are never as good or as bad as they look on a single day.

It's ok I've been ranting since they didn't extend the QO and ranted some more when the Giants signed him and continue to rant when he has a 1.06 ERA through 3 starts And I'll continue to rant until(if) he has arm troubles. Then everyone can rant at me !

Heckuva play by Harrison.

LOl sure send him with 0 outs !

OK boys light 'em up !

I think it got Vaughn's finger ,not his shoulder ,since he looked at his fingers.

Sox on the road , holy crap.

Happy Heavenly 72nd to your dad.

Kashmir !

I hope we do. To be the new King the old King must perish .

Good starting pitching has won a lot of Championships. If it's a luxury at $44M , it's time for the owner to get of the business.