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That's the Italian-American bastardization of Salute , Grazie mille !

Maybe he was listening to Dean Martin and Frank Sinatra while eating lasagna and drinking Lambrusco after long hours of practicing on his accordion . Salute !

Very similar to what I said 4 hours before you did.

It's very likely he makes his debut this year after Robert is brought up. Hahn has said as much. Things may change but expect to see Madrigal a short time after Robert.

Here we go ,right on cue.

It wasn't just Fangraphs . They did crowding sourcing with it too which takes all people like us who speculate on such things. There's also MLBTR which put him at 5 years and $100M at about the same time. To say his floor has always been 5/100 is you thinking MLBTR was closer to being right than Fangraphs BUT that always being his floor isn't accurate even if it turns out to be right.

No not even close to $100M if you remember the Fangraphs ranking of FA's about a month ago. Scroll down to #9. https://blogs.fangraphs.com/2020-top-50-free-agents/

Look I get it. Everyone wants to make the playoffs . It's just my personal belief that even with Wheeler and whoever the 2nd starter we acquire turns out to be we are still too far from making the playoffs. So much has to go right starting with getting Wheeler and another pitcher which is a big obstacle right there.It's premature to spend assets on Joc and it isn't ridiculous saying unless we make the playoffs he's useless no more so than me saying your notions about making the playoffs is ridiculous or your faith in Kopech and Cease next year.

Better get Wheeler then before Joc wouldn't you agree ? And 1 or 2 of Lopez, Kopech or Cease have the kind of year Gio had. Otherwise you still have a 2 good starters in Wheeler and Gio if neither regress of course. Not enough to make the playoffs or go very far in them.

Apparently ChicagoWhiteSox the poster likes Sheets so he might. If you think the Dodgers will take Sheets and /or Gonzales for Pederson apparently you don't think highly of them but the Dodgers should. Round and round we go.

Thank you ! My point exactly. No one knows who will reach full potential and trading Rutherford or whoever for 1 year of Joc in a season where Joc is useless if we don't make the playoffs is just a poor choice rather than giving your so called fringe OF prospects another year.

Almost is hand grenades and horseshoes.

2 in a thousand apparently but Sox haven't made a thousand prospect trades since the Semien trade so I guess its not even close to one in a thousand unless the Sox are really really bad at self scouting so I'm supposed to trust your evaluation over the FO. The Dodger are a very good team and not in a rebuild so losing a potential superstar is not nearly the same as it is for the Sox. The Dodger have unlimited payroll , the Sox do not.

Yes they do have differing opinions all the time .If the Dodgers had interest in Fulmer why didn't they acquire him ? You aren't getting Pederson for fringe prospects like you mentioned. You honestly think our fringe prospects ( loosely translated as your opinion of our fringe prospects) will top all other offers for him ?

Tell that to Semien and Tatis, Jr. and all those who saw no value in them when those trades went down and were pining for us to resign Samardzija. Same thing will happen if we acquire Joc. What will it take to resign him over and over again until he chooses Free Agency.

So you don't see value in Rutherford but the Dodgers should ?

Maybe I should ve mentioned Tatis also. I think an extra year for them all is in the Sox best interest. The Dodgers have a lot of good players and can afford to wait for them or help develop them, Coming out of a rebuild is even more reason to develop them especially coming off injured and so so seasons in the 1st taste of AA in a terrible place to hit .

Cherry picking ? Isn't it the last time the Sox traded for a rental ? I'm suggesting that you and the rest of the scouts here have no idea who will be a good player in the future and who won't be. I'd sacrifice most of them flaming out for one of them becoming more than what anyone here thinks they will be. It's so easy to crap on prospects and be right because most of them do not become what we expect or hope. Do you honestly trust the Sox evaluation of their own minor league players over a a team like the Dodgers ? They aren't going to give up Pederson without someone they really think has a future.

Doesn't all of Future Sox dislike you because you lift your leg and piss all over most Sox prospects ? And you have been told to not bring your shit into that Forum ?

So some think they are non prospects already and some believe they still have value after so so years after injuries and playing in Death Valley at AA but you can fool all of baseball into thinking they still have upside. Got it. So basically saying if you believe they actually do have value you are a fool but the rest of MLB are fools too.

I'm just amazed that the Sox go through a rebuild and people are so desperate to win that all the scouts on this board are willing to dump years of control for 1 year of a decent player. Didn't we hear the same shit about Semien, Bassitt , Phegley, Ravelo who are all still getting MLB appearances with an MVP candidate in the group ,while Samardzija is long gone and Michael Ynoa hasn't pitched in MLB for 2 years.

So they can only get worse ?

Unless one of them is in the trade for him like Fulmer and Basabe for Joc.

Twins are already talking to Boras about Ryu.