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Why not ? Gallen might be the next great pitcher and we need pitching while there are 2nd basemen all over the place. Not sure when he is a FA because FG has it as 2025 and BF has it as 2026. Weird they are so far apart because FG has him as Arb. Eligible in 2020 while BF has him Arb. Eliglible in 2023

Funny because eveyone else would be willing to pack Nick's bags if it was 1 for 1 Madrigal for Gallen.

Well there was that one Twitter guy who said Gallen for Madrigal but no one really thought the Dbacks would do that.

And rightly he wants that attention to go to barstool not here. He owes us nothing. It's just silly expecting him to somehow treat Soxtalk better than the rest of the internet.

They were pretty accurate on Will SMith, Travis D'Arnaud, Chris Martin, Wheeler, Pineda and Grandal. Hamels they said 2/$30M and he got 1/$18M . Gibson they said 2/$18 and he got 3/$30M so the AAV was pretty accurate. The problem is that the past few years the FA market has been depressed and this year it's not at least for maybe the top 20 or so talents. That explains why they were pretty off on Moustakas and Drew Pomeranz but so far they are doing OK. Guess we will see on the others.

Basically because no amount of love from his fellow Cubans can make a zebra change his stripes.He has admitted he only got in shape for his contract year. That's terrible. He also has a tendency to be the center of brawls thereby forcing his team mates to defend him and putting themselves in harms way.

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I didn't see a post that had that info must have missed it cuz I usually read through every post but I did just wake up from a nap

Hmm guess I don't understand all the commotion.Castillo didn't say the Sox will sign Ozuna Monday . All he said was wait til Monday . Wait for what ? Some kind of news Ozuna is signing with the Sox ? With someone else ? For more news on who Ozuna is close to signing with ? For the Winter Meetings to start ?

If you know it's fantasy then you already know the answer.

You pick now to ask that when people have wanted to trade for Joc , JD Martinez, David Price with Benitendi ,Mookie ,Marte and a whole thread devoted to trading for starting pitchers with prospects ? At least this one you get a pitcher with a ton of upside and plenty of years of control. And basically I contemplated it just for fun not actually thinking it was possible.

Just going by what Baseball Reference says.

Gallen isn't a free agent till 2026 . That would be a massive win for the Sox which is why it won't happen. I've been saying the same, keep the prospects let them develop but this Gallen kid might be the real deal and 2nd basemen are plentiful to replace Madrigal.

Not sure it's necessary. 1st priority is starting pitching perhaps even after making that trade. I've been against trading the prospects but very much in favor of prospect for prospect if a position of need is filled with a position of strength. How much do we really lose with Madrigal ? We lose his years but get plenty years back in Gallen. Gallen has already proven himself in the majors. You can fill 2nd base with Cesar Hernandez. SIgn a one year stop gap right fielder or even go after Ryu or Bum. Gio Gallen Bum./ Ryu ,/ Keuchel Cease Lopez Kopech . Leave money for Betts or Springer next year or sign Rendon and forget about more pitching . I think the lineup is good without Rendon but the pitching staff still isn't great even with Gallen just like it wasn't with Wheeler. This is all just fantasy . If a Gallen for Madrigal trade ever materializes I would be shocked. It's just fun to play around with a new idea.

If that's the case do it now. Tons of 2nd basement on the open market . No idea why the D backs would give away a promising young starter.

True but i guess i was looking for specifics about signing guys to a major league contracts who get an invite to spring training but get sent to the minors. Do they have the option to refuse that? Do they specifically have to be signed to minor league contracts? It could still work in theory unless they all wanted to be starting pitchers but instead 2 become starters in the majors and 2 become relievers if you only sign 4 instead of 6 because maybe there is space on the 25 for 4 pitchers among starters and relievers if one is a long man who can periodically start.

Maybe the Sox should take the bargain basement idea to the extreme. Everyone talks about being creative so here we go. Sign all the youngest hurt/bargain basement guys. Give them all 1 year plus an option or a more than fair buyout like 1 yr $5M contract with a $1M buyout. Some of these guys are going to get more , But the idea is to try to sign 6 of them at the same time to Major league contracts maybe with incentives. I'm not sure if that would work when some would have to be sent to the minors. Don't tell any of them about all the other guys you are signing. I know it's a stupid idea mainly because I have no idea what guarantees you have to make a player when signed to a major league contract but they aren't going to sign if they know you already signed 3 other guys and they have an equal offer. Tanner Roark Wade Miley Brett Anderson Martin Perez Kevin Gausman Alex Wood Michael Wacha Drew Smiley Gio Gonzalez Julio Teheran Rick Porcello Jordan Lyles Ivan Nova Identify the ones you want most ,equally split perhaps with guys who are worth the most like Miley with guys who could be worth the most recovering from injury that's not too serious . How much would it take to sign 6 of these guys ? $50M AAV ? This increases your odds of finding one who gives you excess value. You hit the jackpot if you find 2. The rest are your AAA depth and if they do well trade them off bring them up to pitch relieve or whatever. Flame away and tell me where the holes in this process are. Then try it again with the holes fixed. You could do a version of this also signing 3 or 4 of them.But the less you sign the less your odds of finding the one who ends up giving you value. Edit: You could do much the same thing with relievers only the price would be much less like the Mets just signed Brad Brach. Edit: Jordan Lyles off the board. Texas signed him. 2 yrs/$16M

The new future Japanese League player.

I probably would be too depending on cost.Have to figure 4 years . If a team goes 5 forget it. If he's going to $100M also forget it. Somewhere between $80-85 M perhaps? I'm sure this place would be livid but the casual fan base , meaning those most likely to buy season tickets. just might like it a lot. After all he is a legend and a likely good influence on the young pitchers and the most likely to give you 200 innings which is still pretty critical for the 2020 Sox.

https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/pirates/2018/09/26/corey-dickerson-defense-drs-leaders-mlb-gold-glove-favorites-outfield-alex-gordon-kevin-kiermaier/stories/201809260191 this link about how he improved defensively https://www.pitcherlist.com/going-deep-corey-dickersons-fusion-dance/ this link about offense Basically he made the change 2 years ago and doesn't seem as if his power has suffered for it. Might have changed his stance a little bit too.

Yes there are. But basically he choked up a little i think and just decided to go for more contact. I'm sure it in my posts somewhere in this thread or a Dickerson thread or the reasonable offseason . Im sure I linked the articles if you can wade through my many posts I made about him.

I'd still like to see if the Rockies are willing to trade Sam Hilliard rather than Blackmon.

"Expect, at some point next year, Michael Kopech and Carlos Rodon to join us.” “I just don’t know when he’s going to be on the major league active roster. His rehab has gone wonderfully. He’s perfectly on pace. He’s going to be in spring training without restriction, and he’s going to be over 18 months removed from throwing a pitch in anger to a hitter. So, let’s let the kid develop, and when he’s ready, he’s going to be back.” Basically because of TJ the Sox have to limit his innings and much of that will occur in the minors via short starts maybe skipping his turn once in a while or relief innings but most likely just not overtaxing his arm expecting him to to 7+ innings right away, but building up to a point where if pitching well can be brought up. Everything in quotes is from Hahn , The last paragraph is me . https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/white-sox/what-we-learned-rick-hahns-appearance-white-sox-talk-podcast