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I'd also be giving Sosa regular playing time. I know they're trying to get the best defense possible but it won't matter unless you score some runs. Give me Lee, Sosa even against all but the nastiest of RHP slider pitchers. Against sinker ballers who don't strike anybody out I'll take the power hitters who can tee off on a hanger. If you want the LH bats use Baldwin at SS and Maton in RF .

I'd be giving Korey Lee a lot more starts than Thaiss despite Thaiss being the strong side of the platoon. Korey works very hard on his hitting and has made some changes. He needs to play to see if those changes have helped. He hit well in ST and I like the extra power and his great pop time.

Weird how saying bad things happen when you scrape the bottom of the barrel for players in a rebuild is like being a genius. Every team throws wild pitches and allows 2 out RBIs even the Dodgers. They gave up 1 run in ea of the 1st 2 games.and no they can't hit . Just wait OMG they will commit errors too though they haven't yet in 2 games. Flawless baseball does not exist ever in any game. I should just be Captain Obvious and join the parade of sorrow too. I might win the day and think I'm an influencer because I scream DFA bad players so more bad players can get a chance.

There were a lot of eyes on them both and a lot of people everywhere excited about them as prospects. How could so many be wrong is what you should be asking. It's not like the Sox were on an island by themselves. Do you think if the Sox didn't take Madrigal or Vaughn they would have not been in the top 5 picks ? Would they have fallen from the top 10 1st round picks ? There weren't a lot of people here who didn't love Vaughn. I know one guy here who was famous for having doubts who routinely admitted he had mental health issues used to take a lot of s%*# about because he routine questioned taking a 1st baseman that early. I can't remember his user name. Parker ? Yes the fictional White Sox slugger from Major League 2. He he have had some mental issues but he was right about some things. He always used to say the Sox needed to pick a lane and that it was stupid to trying to compete if you couldn't put financial resources into superstars to finish off a rebuild or even just compete. If you can't do that then commit to infrastructure and try to operate like the Rays. He was right .

What rah rah stuff ? There's always good things happening along with the bad. I'm encouraged by the pitching and defense so far. Might have hitting reinforcements once they get the extra year on a few guys or at the latest after they trade or DFA more guys. So many prospects to follow in the minors. I could do without all the Tommy Johns though . An acceptable amount is one thing. 6 is crazy and the year has barely started.

Thank you I need constant reminders that there's a lot of bad going on in a rebuild . You are a godsend .

Teel should be the 1st one called up.They need LH slugging .

You are really in your element after a shutout loss 🤣

That's EST so 3 for me.

Do we have minor league games today ?

Which one ? Still a solid chance to go 2-0. How's this Sox walk it off in the 9th.

I like the optimism.

Soriano could go 9 with less than 100 pitches.

I'll take that inning every time.

Amaya had no chance .One pitch catches low outside corner and next one high inside corner.

Real nice outing. He's probably out . Up to the BP and hitters now. Wasn't something we could count on from either last year .Both have to step up this game.

He'll hit a red hot streak for a month eventually this season. He always does to stay near .700 OPS ora little above it.

Vaughn DP I had it in my head didn't want to post it . Didn't matter.

Cannon battling. I'm getting the Sox radio with Len and DJfeed but the ChSN picture on my TV.

I wasn't sure if Cotts was drafted by the Sox. I just looked at the roster and took my best guess. I left out Brian Anderson because he wasn't a big factor. But yes a lot of guys had one of the best years of their careers all at once or at least were productive at just the right moment in time. The stars aligned , whatever you want to call it. There was no sustained success involved.

Who ever gets tired of being right ? You can makes lot of money that way if you have similar instincts about the stock market or gambling. One of my Daddy's favorites sayings was don't break your arm patting yourself on your back. I'd tell him someone's got to do it. And we'd laugh about it. There's a difference between making arguments to support your position and trying to make yourself look like the smartest person in the room all the time by never giving an inch in an argument and being fair about it and saying yes you have a point there. I don't think you even existed on this website in August of 2023 unless you changed your screen name. I didn't see your opinions anywhere in the 1st 10 pages of that 27 page thread. You post like a know-it- all all the time .I post like a know-it all after I discover I predict a lot of things accurately but I generally try to acknowledge when others are making a good argument like I did calling the Burger trade a good trade even though I didn't like it very much. I don't care for people very much who never give an inch because it shows weakness or obscures their losing arguments. No one can bully me . This isn't grade school . There is no fear of being unpopular on a message board as full of meatball takes as much as X or sports talk radio. You can call me Carnac the Magnificent. The Answer is Sweet and Sour Shrimp. What is the question ? What do you call a moody midget ? 🤣 That was actually from the old Tonight Show skit with Ed McMahon and Johnny Carson.

Brother I look ahead better than anyone. Anyone who reads my posts knows I'm always posting about the positive things going on on not focusing on the 121 loss season like a child because I'm ashamed to wear my Sox hat now and be associated with that terrible team. I get it , no one likes to be wrong, so yes, no one likes me saying I was right. But if you're going to call other people baseball stupid or act incredulous about why so many Sox fans didn't like that Burger trade then act like Eloy was so much better on top of it then yea I might let you know that it's one thing to stick to your arguments but you can do it without being pigheaded about it even now when you so clearly lost every argument you made . I don't think it's a bad thing to like certain players . But don't let it blind you .Remember you were laughing at me and my opinions that turned out very right as if they were very wrong. I didn't laugh at you did I ? Don't use those emojis if you don't want me to find it later when it comes up again. I even acknowledged several times in that thread that the others had a point about why it was a good trade because objectively I could see it working out either way. I liked Burger like you liked Eloy but it didn't blind me about his faults but I also recognized that he was very committed to using every tool at his disposal to try to be better . So yes if he only ended up with 5 or 10 WAR in his career that could still be way more than a 25 yr old minor league pitcher trying to work his way back from surgery. And I clearly didn't think the Sox had an over abundance of RH power like Hahn ended up saying about dealing from a position of strength . I thought more highly of Burger than I did Eloy because he had more control, cost a lot less and was producing more. I was never arrogant about my position .At the time I said several times it was a good trade and it was only in reading the old thread that I was like wow some people were dead wrong acting like they were the smartest people in the room at the time. I had no idea I had so accurately predicted what was coming .I just wanted to reread the thread to see what I said because those Burger trade arguments went on a long time. Eder never really gave those who thought it was a great trade any hope but somehow they still think at worst it was a toss up ? Come on now . Burger doesn't have to be all world to admit it ended up being a bad trade and ultimately the inability of Eloy,Moncada and Robert to produce at all in 2024 is a big part of what led to that terrible record. So yes I feel good that nothing I said agreed with anything that led to that terrible record and accurately saw things were not getting better they were getting worse no matter what Hahn and Jerry and other posters believed about what was going to happen in 2024. The writing was on the wall right after the 2023 All Star break. 3 weeks later Hahn and Williams were fired. A little over a week after that Reinsdorf named Getz to replace Hahn and Williams. Then JR started spewing BS about a quick turnaround and people believed him . It became painfully obvious later when he wasn't giving Getz any money to spend in January of 2024 that it was a rebuild . I always thought anything Getz said about competing was him just being a good soldier and not wanting to lose his job by throwing JR under the bus. I never took anything Getz said to heart. Didn't believe a word of it. So yes I'm not too hard on Getz because JR hung him out to dry from the get go talking about a quick turnaround then not giving him any money to back up those words. On top of all that Getz had to keep cutting salary. Other GMs had him at a disadvantage knowing he was dumping salary and JR was basically preparing the team to be sold while buying up parking structures around the United Center. He cared more about partnering up with the Blackhawks then he did about the White Sox. At least he might've paved the way for Justin Ishbia to buy the Sox. We'll see if that actually happens or if Ishbia backs out like he did with the Twins. With Jerry I pretty much don't trust anything that looks too good to be true or much of anything at all that come out of his mouth.

Different era of course but Ted Williams was the Splendid Splinter. Hands, wrist, forearms, hips ,solid base, weight transfer, barreling it up. I never read Ted Williams " The Science of Hitting " . Someone must've compared what he said then to today to see how it stacks up against modern thinking. I don't think all that much has changed. Velocity is higher for pitching .Hitters still need great eyesight. Williams was known to have great vision.

It is maddening. Stupid Commissioner. Baseball doesn't need an anti tanking rule. Picking the right players in the draft is harder than any other sport already and you instituted a lottery system. That's plenty good enough. No need to punish the worst teams fan bases too. The team being a mess is bad enough. Then you're going to throw in more labor problems to make things worse .The rich and east coast teams will keep spending just the way baseball wants it. God forbid Midwest cities like Milwaukee, KC , Cleveland, Minnesota,Chicago get lucky enough drafting to make the playoffs a few years in a row as they all struggle to pay their stars enough so they don't leave. Bad owners don't need to be rewarded but they already hurt their franchises and their fans enough without MLB stepping in with more gasoline to throw onto the fire. Competitive balance . What a joke. There's only one reason why the Sox won World Series in 2005. Everything basically had to go right with most of their good players. Not great players. No HOF players on that team. No great Draft choices Internationally or Domestically except some pitcher drafted very late rounds named Buehrle .Crede, Cotts, Rowand were other domestic Sox draft picks who made good in 2005. Frank Thomas was mostly hurt. They were cobbled together into a good team for 1 year . Didn't make the playoffs the year before or the year after.One and done. Typical the Baseball Gods smiling on the Sox once every 100 years stuff.

Good job everyone. I saw on the MLB App so saw Teel and Colson had hit HRs but they didn't show Elko's. Still don't know the final score but I'll follow the links and read the box score now.