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They didnt produce Tatis ,Jr. for the Sox.He was traded by Hahn before he even played a single game in the organization. Outsmarted by a GM who knew the value of up the middle talent and bloodlines. A Modern GM . Preller produced and developed him for the Padres .

I've stuck up for you numerous times because of needless bullying because your posting style is unique . And you are polite. I like level headedness. Im not particularly fond of people acting like a pack of wolves or HS jocks picking on the nerds. I also attended a seminary HS . I haven't changed except over the years I grew tired of bullying posting styles. All the guys with hive mindedness, wolfpack or Lord of the Flies type behavior that shows up when the Sox are bad but not the 1st rebuild oddly and Jerry left Hahan and KW in charge after they just traded away some of their best young talent. JR wasn't as hated then as he is now and Getz is viewed as either a JR suckup , a part of the previous madness an inexperienced buffoon. I view him as a JR pawn in a no win job that he was smart enough to know he wasnt the brightest bulb in the room nor were the Sox the brightest most modern team. And he hired people with good reputations to help him and has tried to modernize after years of neglect in many areas. What he doing is building a foundation which future GMs can build upon for the betterment of the team once he is gone. I have no idea how long it'll take to have a 15-16 yr old international signee from the DR become a decent MLB player but I do know that it could happen in the next 10 years more than it ever happened in JR's entire 40+ years tenure since it hasnt happened once while DR players were proliferating in MLB. That's what's a travesty, not Getz mixing up a players handedness in his head.That's what's a very bad look for over 40 years of wandering in that desert. We are all just small fish in this small pond of Soxtalk. What we say or how much our opinions may vary ultimately means nothing .But it is how we treat each other that ultimately means something.

Is this really worth responding to everyone that gives Getz some lee way ? I don't even understand the parelell you gave unless you traded for your nephew and had to talk about him to the media while you were thinking about other family members to buy because you got $20M back for the guy you traded for your nephew because granpa wouldnt let you buy anymore family members unless you got that $20M. Besides its pretty easy to have a family member call you by another members name. I barely knew one of my 1st cousins because she grew up in Delaware. But she ended up knowing my younger brother through Facebook over the years and I didnt join FB until maybe 4 or 5 years ago and used a few of my brothers who stayed in Chicago to reconnect with family. She came out to California to visit a friend and wondered if I wanted to tag along and meet her . The whole day she must've called me by my brother's name 4 times even after I corrected her every time. Stuff like that happens in big family's. Everyone reminds you of someone else. Id say the paralell you used is more like Acuna reminded Getz of someone else in the big family of players in his head but instead of calling him Ronald Acuna he called him a switch hitter because he's more of a commodity with certain attributes that he mixed up with someone elses attributes maybe Mauricio , maybe Baldwin , who knows. Basically we'll never know if he really didnt know or if he just has a lot of different guys in his head and repeated the same thing over and over by rote or autopilot . We can't examine his brain so anyone taking an absolute stance on him knowing or not knowing is never going to know for sure. The best we can say is it's a gaffe. But overall it shouldn't effect what you thought of the trade. I'm more conerned about how Acuna performs . Maybe the SH Baldwin does get 1st shot in CF. if he can show significantly improved defense and approach .800 OPS like he did the last few months of the season.

This is where I am and possibly higher for Moonay. We keep hearing that Japanese baseball was in a deadball era yet he was bombs away last year in a year he was injured. There are enough mistake pitches made that good hitters launch.

If Acuna turns into a productive player the end result will be much more important than some human mental errors when his answers to the same question over and over becomes rote. Its like the Murakami error. People arent used to Japanese names so the likelihood of an error becomes higher. I almost did it myself when I was typing his name it came out Munekami, a combination of his 1st and last name before I noticed it before I posted it last week. Usually I correct typing or spelling errors after the fact or edit to make a point clearer or word it better. I would be terrible on X.

Right ,it could ve come down to take your pick Mauricio or Acuna and you get the pitcher with either one and we'll pay for Robert's contract. At that point knowing he wasnt getting another $20M from JR he pulled the trigger.

Thanks, that helps my theory a bit if Mauricio was ever in trade discussions with The Mets. AI didnt spit out Mauricio's name to me as a SH. Unfortunately it gave me an incorrect answer about Williams. I was trying to put myself in Getz shoes and its likely Acuna wasnt his 1st choice since we heard they were willing to eat money. And once AI told me Williams was a SH I was like, hmm, thats a name that was speculated on as part of a trade with the Mets earlier. The Robert trade was Jan. 20 and the Williams trade was Jan 21. It all fit together but AI gave me bogus info .

Ok looks like the link didnt include Williams but I took a screenshot of what AI told me about Williams .

Damn I thought I had a pretty good working theory that worked. I asked a question about switch hitting Mets prospects and the AI answer said Williams was a switch hitter. Heres the link that told me. https://www.google.com/search?q=do+the+mets+have+any+good+switch+hitting+prospects+in+2026+%3F&oq=do+the+mets+have+any+good+switch+hitting+prospects+in+2026+%3F&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRigATIHCAIQIRigATIHCAMQIRigATIHCAQQIRigATIHCAUQIRigATIHCAYQIRirAjIHCAcQIRiPAjIHCAgQIRiPAtIBCTU1MDcxajBqN6gCFLACAfEFJ3JCzw4o0-HxBSdyQs8OKNPh&client=ms-android-att-us-rvc3&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#lfId=ChxjMe

Probably the best way to handle it with some humor. Theres not much else he can say to how can you not know he wasnt a switch hitter that many times ? You're the one who traded for him. Any excuse will sound lame. Maybe his original ask was Carson Benge who is LH but that was quickly snuffed out . Then for a long time it was Jett Williams ,who is a switch hitter and the Sox were willing to pay down some of the Robert contract to get him. However Williams was traded in the Freddy Peralta trade . Jan. 21. So Acuna was probably his 3rd choice Maybe Williams as a SH got stuck in his head because Williams was who he wanted for the longest period of time but they settled on Acuna+ and no salary payout. He can't really say Acuna was his 3rd choice. You just take the $20M and reinvest it quickly in other players. He's juggling a lot of possible trade candidates in his head at all times.

There goes all the lefthanded hitting runway Acuna was going to get.

I had a feeling Id be hearing from you if I posted about it.🙂

I see parallels to the 1990 team and the 2026 Sox. I know the Sox were worse in 2025 than 1989 . Torborg was in his 2nd year of managing the Sox like Venable is now . Lots of young guys who all pulled for each other. Some young guys just coming into their own. I was begging in my head for KW to bring up Frank Thomas earlier like wtf are you waiting for ? Frank was killing it in Birmingham putting up absurd numbers but he waited until August and then he put up absurd numbers with the Sox in 60 games.

I meant in terms of perhaps getting Canning or making a trade for a young MLB ready arm not the retreads. There's giving guys runway like Acuna , I'm just not sure that runway includes the ability to keep 2 guys for a full season who last pitched in A+ . That's miles of runway.

Guess that depends on how Paez and Alberto look so can carry a lot of guys in ST and if those Rule 5 guys just dont make a great impression they both might be returned. Even if Paez is already in the Sox Top 15 prospects its extremely difficult to make the jump from A+ for either of those guys.

I recently watched the Jeff Torborg documentary, A Wonderful Baseball Life ,made by the same people that brought you The Last Comiskey 3 part series on Youtube. It's so good along with Part 3 of the Last Comiskey which focused on the incredible season the 1990 Sox had in the last season of Old Comiskey park with Torborg as manager. Your meme about having a chance reminded me that the 1989 young Sox team was 69-92 and then under Torborg in 1990 won 94 games before eventually falling short of the roided up Oakland A's. So many fun memories and stories . The giant jock strap hanging from the LF upper deck was hilarious ! If you ever get cynical about culture, hearing about Torborg and the 1990 Sox might remind you that a good clubhouse along with belief and talent can go a long way. Just visit the Last Comiskey channel on youtube for some great Sox content celebrating some good times. "It reminds you of what once was good, and can be again". - James Earl Jones from Field of Dreams.

I watched it this morning. Always nice to hear from the new guys.

Benintendi isnt a prospect so no reason to use him at in an argument whatsoever. Anderson vs Colson comparison has to do with projecting Colson's less than half a season with a full career of Anderson. Colson can certainly regress, stay the same or even get better at some parts of his game and regress in others. Pretty easy to see a bright future for him . Or you can just refuse to see it. That was what your original post was about. Then you used 3 examples of players with speed and defense whose careers were models of flashes of greatness but overall wouldnt even get them in the Hall of Very Good because of injuries. Are your arguments now that you can see it because you used 3 poor examples and the Sox still have some prospects that havent graduated to MLB (Bonemer, B.Montgomery) yet and also havent even played a game for the Sox ( Carlson) or even drafted yet ( the 1:1) ? Can't count on Murakami as a core piece because he is a unique young player who many teams didnt want to take a chance on because a Schwarber outcome is strictly a 1B/DH and seems pretty unlikely . It was unlikely in the Cubs mind for Schwarber to be what he became when he was nontendered. There are people all over the country who can " see " very good futures for a lot of the rookies from last year and rookies of the future Sox. I don't think I went out on a limb to think they might end up with some pretty good players who's careers can eclipse the 3 examples you gave just by staying on the field and reaching some of their upside. 2026 will help or hurt. That's the nature of the game. Schwarber was 27 when the Cubs non-tendered him. Colson was a great prospect, then a bust , now MLB Network ranked him the 88th best player in the game based on 71 games. I understand baseball is a very difficult sport to predict the future and what we "see" can just be based on how we interpret probability ,ability, projectability or our level of belief that since it's the Sox, so fallability is certain. Edit: Caulfield respectfully, you should probably not use your memory of TA if you arent going to fact check what you say to glorify him. No doubt his flair appealed to many fans but he did not win Multiple batting titles , he won 1. He also never stole as much as 30 bases let alone 40 when you said "30 to 40". I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that you were just remembering wrong rather than exaggerating to make your point seem stronger.

Caulfield are you being purposefully deceptive ? You're a longtime baseball fan. You know very well that Moncada quickly lost any speed he had and defensively he failed at 2nd base. Tim Anderson may have had defensive tools but was an average at best defensive SS. Robert and Moncada were great prospects who ability was severely tarnished by their availability. Of course there are a lot of other ways to measure players. Health is a very key factor . There is much more emphasis on OBP by Getz. Moneyball has been around a long time. Moncada was the only one who could take a walk of the 3 you mentioned. So consistently available above average play over a longer period of time is a way to " turn out better" since somehow a seasoned baseball fan such as yourself has trouble seeing it. Of course power plays a big part. Having 4 or 5 guys who can consistently, year after year hit 20-30 HR is better than a few who couldnt stay on the field long enough to show it. Most of the new group just finished their rookie years and for most not even a full season .As you mentioned there are more (hitters and pitchers) coming including the 1:1 . So just try using a little imagination and projectability and it isn't so hard to see. It's not like you gave examples of consistently good players. They were sporadically good at best. And Moncada's best season came in the bouncy ball year when career years abounded.

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2nd week in March is right in the middle of the WBC so no Murakami, Ohtani, Teel, Dominquez, Antonacci, Mead, Will Smith, Yamamoto, Edwin Diaz and a couple others from the Dodgers that you likely wouldnt care about missing them.