AddisonStSox

Hey Keith... does this feel like Christmas or what?

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Apr 23, 2005 -> 09:32 AM) Just from hearing Angelo talk, it seems like he likes Williams more than Edwards... Then he's one happy camper... Mike Williams will be there at four! We have our receiver!

Thread Opened! With the fourth overall selection in the 2005 NFL draft, the Chicago Bears select...

Soxtalk's Collective Entry 1. San Francisco - Aaron Rodgers - QB 2. Miami - Ronnie Brown - RB 3. Cleveland - Alex Smith - QB 4. Chicago - Mike Williams - WR 5. Tampa Bay - Cadillac Williams - RB 6. Tennessee - Braylon Edwards - WR 7. Minnesota - Derrick Johnson - LB 8. Arizona - Cedric Benson - RB 9. Washington - Pac Man Jones - DB 10. Detroit - Alex Barron - OT 11. Dallas - Shawne Merriman - DE 12. San Diego - Troy Williamson - WR 13. Houston - Antrel Rolle - DB 14. Carolina - Heath Miller - TE 15. Kansas City - Carlos Rogers - DB 16. New Orleans - Thomas Davis - OLB/S 17. Cincinnati - Marcus Spears - DE 18. Minnesota - Mark Clayton - WR 19. St Louis - Erasmus James - DE 20. Dallas - Jammal Brown - OT 21. Jacksonville - Shaun Cody - DT 22. Baltimore - Roddy White - WR 23. Seattle - David Pollack - LB 24. Green Bay - Brodney Pool - S 25. Denver - Marlin Jackson - CB 26. NY Jets - Khalif Barnes - OT 27. Atlanta - Fabian Washington - C 28. San Diego - DeMarcus Ware - OLB/DE 29. Indianapolis - Justin Miller - CB 30. Pittsburgh - Matt Jones - WR/TE 31. Philadelphia - Travis Johnson - DT 32. New England - Dave Baas - G

QUOTE(knightni @ Apr 22, 2005 -> 11:25 PM) I would have.. but I am too late. I just saw this. Well, if I make an exception for you, then I'll have to make an exception for everyone. Sorry. Just f***in' around. It's in. Great work with that, it was a lot of fun, thanks!

Keep it up Joe! Go get em'! Just take it easy on the youngster, I have him on the fantasy team.

Thread opened. We made it fellas! With the first overall selection in the 2005 NFL draft, the San Francisco 49'ers select...

1. Alex Smith--SF 2. Ronnie Brown--MIA 3. Braylon Edwards--CLE 4. Cedric Benson--CHI 5. Aaron Rodgers--TB 6. Antrel Rolle--TENN 7. Mike Williams--MIN 8. Carnell Williams--AZ 9. Pac-Man Jones-WASH 10. Derrick Johnson--DET 11. Demarcus Ware--DAL 12. Troy Williamson--SD 13. Alex Barron--HOU 14. Khalif Barnes--CAR 15. Shawne Merriman--KC 16. Travis Johnson--NO 17. Marcus Spears--CIN 18. Erasmus James--MIN 19. Jammal Brown-STL 20. Mark Clayton-DAL 21. Carlos Rogers-JAX 22. David Pollack--BAL 23. Fabian Washington--SEA 24. Thomas Davis--GB 25. Jason Campbell--WASH 26. Justin Miller--OAK 27. Shaun Cody--ATL 28. Dan Cody--SD 29. Marlin Jackson--IND 30. Matt Jones--PIT 31. Roddy White--PHI 32. Barrett Ruud--NE Tiebreakers: Green Bay--2 David Baas, 2 Charlie Frye

Hey knightni, when you are done tallying things up for the Pats, why don't you go ahead and enter the Soxtalk mock in the contest and see how it fairs against the rest.

Neither one of these guys took the high-road, yes? I don't care who's right or wrong anymore. Let it go.

Happy B-Day Shooter!!! I hope you have a great one!

Undoubtedly: the Bears are in a great position to really upgrade that offense. Drafting Braylon Edwards or Mike Williams instantly adds credibilty to the offense and the offensive passing game would you all agree? Either of those guys offer deep threats, great size, and game-breaking ability. The thought of giving Rex two outstanding recievers to throw to is really a breath of fresh air. Drafting a WR also give you the flexibility to add a backup RB in the later rounds. Anyone that doesn't think this a deep RB draft is downright goofy. With guys like Fason, Moats, Gore, Arrington, Barber III, Kay-Jay Harris, and Eric Shelton, you can comfortably add your backup RB without burning that 2'nd round selection. Drafting one of the top-three RB is also a very good thing. Would we agree that Carnell, Brown, and Benson all have star quality? All three of those guys could be high-profile RBs and it could happen in less that three years--that is outstanding. You would also give Rex two capable RBs lining up behind him that can pound it out down-after-down. Never underestimate the importance of a bruising running attack--it opens up the passing game, it protects the QB, and it's a safe way to pick up yardage. The WR pool is not nearly as deep as the RB pool, but guys like Roddy White, Jermone Mathis, Chris Henry, Reggie Brown, even Mark Clayton will all be hanging around in the 2'nd round. Also, Benson is an upper-tier RB and will establish himself as one of the best in the game in two years' time. He's a skilled runner, tough, durable, always hits the hole,--a workhorse. He may very well be the next ubber-RB in the city of Chicago.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Apr 21, 2005 -> 07:44 PM) Mark the time: 8:45 Central. Draft fever has hit me... Addy, I know you've been pumped for awhile now, but up till now, it hasn't hit me. It's here. I can't f***in' wait. Got that right. It hit me pretty hard late last week. I'll have the VCR (no tivo) rolling! Gonna be a fun one.

5'9 217 It's gonna be a fun one fellas! See ya on draft day!

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Apr 21, 2005 -> 07:17 PM) Or we realize that Thomas Jones will outproduce Benson this year if Grossman has 2 WR's to keep defenses honest. So which of his 6'0 215 frame, Doak Walker Award, ABC Sports All-America Player of the Year Award, 4 years of over 1,000 rushing, 64 rushing TDs (Third all time), or 621 reception yards that have you staying as far away as possible?

QUOTE(chimpy2121 @ Apr 21, 2005 -> 07:13 PM) Anyone but Benson (I would really like Mike Williams though) Personally, I think you guys are all crazy with this "anyone but Benson" talk.

QUOTE(T R U @ Apr 21, 2005 -> 07:10 PM) ROFL They had Ronnie Brown going #13 That was a HORRIBLE HORRIBLE mock draft Miami will NOT take Aaron Rodgers, its Smith or Edwards, 100% guarantee if they dont trade out... If not, Miami is the biggest smoke screen franchise in the NFL What are you talking about? When I was watching, they had Brown go to the Fins.

QUOTE(Spod=Ratings @ Apr 21, 2005 -> 07:02 PM) i hope they dont take Ware cause i would love to see him in a packers uniform Not a chance in hell he falls that far.

QUOTE(shagar69 @ Apr 21, 2005 -> 07:03 PM) where did Edwards go? Cleveland.

What a great thread Jackie! Braylon's the guy.

Guys, check this out. It's on ESPN right now and they are doing an amazing job. I'm with them stride for stride.

QUOTE(Goldmember @ Apr 21, 2005 -> 10:02 AM) made per request on another board. figured i'd post here in case anyone wanted: Goldy, you're sick. Flat out. You're just sick. Listen, after draft day, do you think you could come up with something showcasing all of the Bears' selections?

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Apr 21, 2005 -> 05:23 PM) Am I the only one who likes Williams more than Edwards? A few weeks ago you weren't. I've really come around on Braylon Edwards. After having read up on him and looked over his numbers, it is becoming more and more obvious he is the guy the Bears SHOULD go after. He put up sick numbers in both his sophomore and junior years, but made the wise decision to come back for his senior year. His speed and size are second to none at his position. He can out-run corners, he can knock them over, he can out-jump them...he can basically do it all with his size. He uses every bit of that 6'3 208 frame on the field. As you probably know, the one knock that continues to haunt him is his inability to consistantly catch the "easy" ball. While that is something to consider, the pros greatly out-weigh the cons. Another lesser knock is his inability to sell his routes. That said, I think those are two things that can be worked on at the professional level and he shouldn't have a difficult time catching-on with a good WR coach. Another tell-tale sign of his skill is evident in all these teams scrambling to get a shot at him at the top of the draft. Personally, if I was San Francisco, I'd take a LONG hard look at him; he's that good. With Muhammad on the opposite side of the field, Grossman would have two EXCELLENT options to throw to (especially if the Bears think Grossman is the QB of the future; this would help bring out that potential). While Brown, Benson, Carnell Williams, and Mike Williams are all sure-fire picks, Braylon would be the best fit. At the end of the day, it comes down to me believing Edwards would benefit the Bears immediately as well as down the road. With the RB, you risk screwing up a good thing with Thomas Jones. The rookie would be sharing time with Jones and no one is sure how that would go out. That said, most importantly this is the deepest RB draft I've seen in a LONG, LONG time. The Bears could get a primo back in the 2, 4 and 5 round >. As for Williams: I think he may take a little longer adapting to the professional game, but when he gets there it will be his speed that separates him from Edwards. Edwards is just the real freaking deal. You know what you're getting. Flat out. And anytime you know what you're getting on draft day, that is usually the way to go.

QUOTE(Leonard Zelig @ Apr 21, 2005 -> 05:21 PM) What time does the draft begin? 11:00 CST ESPN

Be careful. All I'm saying is... He makeees da fhacking lineeup. ...continue.