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Friggin awesome.

Not working for me either.

He definately should work on a knuckleball. That s*** would be beyond nasty. It would be the hardest pitch to hit ever.

QUOTE(ZoomSlowik @ Feb 17, 2006 -> 09:12 AM) You're twisting the question. The equation is not Gordon, Chandler, and two picks versus Hinrich, it's versus Hinrich and the Knick's pick. If it's in the top 2, which it looks like it will be, that pick is worth considerably more than the other two picks. There's a big difference between LaMarcus Aldridge and Rudy Gay versus the rest of this draft class. Actually it is. I rather give up Hinrich and 1 pick than completely overhaul the core minus the "great" Kirk Hinrich. And what we need is a big man anyway. The trade for JO would lead us to no need for Aldridge. We already have Deng and Nocioni, so there isn't a need for Gay either if the trade is Hinrich and the 1st. Um yes it can. Since the Bulls will be 15 million under the cap this offseason(probably more, especially if the cap is set at 50 million which is projected), they can pull off that trade. As long as the trade does not put you over the cap, then matching salaries do not have to be included.

QUOTE(ZoomSlowik @ Feb 16, 2006 -> 11:57 PM) Of late, yes, his percentage is a bit better. He still turns it over a fairly good amount for a non-primary ball handler, and his assists aren't exactly piling up. I guess we're just supposed to give him a pass for those first two months though, apparently we're not supposed to count those even though the NBA does. Two bad months followed by two good months doesn't equal massive steps forward. As I said, if he does it for another two months, maybe I'll start to consider him a more legit option as our SG of the future, but not yet. I heard the same crap about Curry with the way he finished the season two years ago, and a year later he's overpaid and on a last place team. The same thing was said about Chandler, and he obviously took a step back to start the year. It's not necessarily a sign of progress. More likely it's a sign of inconsistency resulting from a lack of experience. Hinrich might not be an elite shooter, but Gordon isn't exactly smoking him this year (41.7 to 40.4), or last year (41.1 to 39.7). I'm supposed to get excited over about one more made shot out of 100? Hinrich is also a much better passer, turns it over at about the same frequency even tough he's the primary ballhandler, and still produces a similar point total while taking fewer shots. On top of that, he's an above average defender as opposed to a liability. You're getting all giddy about 6 assists from Gordon when Hinrich averages more than that. Hinrich is definitely an above average PG, you can't say the same about Gordon at SG at this point in his career. As for Curry, he was a decent post option, but he was not an elite scorer that people consistently game plan against. I don't recall him getting constant double teams, and he frequently got most of his points in the first quarter while not doing much in the second half. O'Neal would be a proven All-star that has averaged 20 points per game for the last 4 years. There's a bit of a difference. The latter is a lot more likely to create some more open looks for Hinrich than the former, and the improved rebounding and shot blocking could lead to a few more transition opportunities. He likely wouldn't become a great shooter, but he has been getting a little better every year. His percentage has been up all season long. And I'm not saying that Hinrich isn't the better player now, but he is not worth giving up Gordon, 2 first round picks, and Chandler for. That's simply overrating Hinrich big time.

QUOTE(ZoomSlowik @ Feb 16, 2006 -> 11:24 PM) He did a lot of the same things in spurts last year too. If he's still doing this in March and April, I might reconsider. Until then, it's still just a decent run in my book. Plus he's probably not going to have too many 20 shot plus games if we add O'Neal. Gordon's shot selection has vastly improved, he shoots a pretty damn good percentage, his penetration is better and so are his handles. They're even starting to use him at PG a little right now. He even had 6 assists tonight. Gordon simply gets severely underrated around here. Also, Hinrich has never shot a good percentage in his career. It's not that he has a lack of a big man, it's that he's just a bad shooter, period. And I don't want to hear crap that Eddy isn't a post inside presence because he does draw double teams. Hinrich is vastly overrated around here. I guess as long as you try, you get a pass by the fans. BTW, he has statistically improved in points, assists, and shooting percentage, though he's FT percentage is down.

QUOTE(ZoomSlowik @ Feb 16, 2006 -> 11:45 AM) I'd love it if we could somehow turn Gordon, Chandler, our pick, and our #1 next year into O'Neal, but that seems a little light for a player of his caliber. If we do the proposed trade, I think we move into the same territory as the Timberwolves and Garnett: simply not having enough players around the star to win big. Honestly, if after the lottery it doesn't look like we'd be able to get Aldridge with the Knick's pick, I'd be willing to deal it. We're not really going to get any immediate help with that pick unless we could get him. I think you simply are overrating Hinrich in this case then. You're willing to give up our starting SG(who's shown progression so far), our only decent big man, and 2 first round picks for JO, but not Hinrich and the Knicks pick? Let's look at the lineups in comparisons. PG-Chris Duhon SG-Ben Gordon SF-Luol Deng PF-Jermaine O'Neal C-Tyson Chandler 1st round pick(ours) Andres Nocioni Othella Harrington Darius Songalia Jannero Pargo Eddie Basden Eric Piatowski or PG-Kirk Hinrich SG-?? SF-Luol Deng PF-Jermaine O'Neal C-Othella Harrington 1st round pick(though I don't ever think the Pacers would ever deal JO for a non-top 3 pick if picks are involved) Nocioni Songalia Pargo Piatowski Badsen I prefer the first team much much more. Hinrich is going to cost you alot in terms of cash which means little flexibility. I rather keep the cheaper and efficient Duhon and most of our starting lineup. I think that's another need this team needs. Continual development of chemistry. We can't keep drastically changing starting lineups from year to year.

Welcome. Hope you love it here.

QUOTE(GreatScott82 @ Feb 16, 2006 -> 12:01 PM) As of now the lineup is: Pods, Uribe, Thome, Konerko, Dye, Gooch, AJ, Crede, Anderson They will see how Uribe does in the 2 hole during ST. If he struggles in that role, expect to see Gooch right back there. Other than that everything else is set in stone. Perfect lineup. And I don't think Anderson bats 8th for whoever thinks that. I don't see a reason why he would.

QUOTE(The Critic @ Feb 16, 2006 -> 11:17 AM) You've never heard the phrase "Pearl Harbored"? really? I haven't either. I agree though that America needs to move the f*** on. Typical US though, we'll milk anything for what it's worth. Then we'll be like, "Hell yeah, we're the best." We'll permantly change the name of french fries to freedom fries and we'll never visit a 7eleven or Dunkin' Donuts again." This is a dumbass idea. Especially the fact that they won't show the actual plane crashings. I think you need to show everything. I see this as a bad movie that people will still rally around in the end.

*Goes downloads a bunch of albums off torrent in spite*

Zoom, I changed my Yahoo name just to let you know. It's [email protected].

QUOTE(Chisoxrd5 @ Feb 13, 2006 -> 04:47 PM) I'm extremely busy for the next few weeks (tax-season) so to be honest I would prefer tuesday after 8 pm, late like after 10 pm during the week or a Sunday Night. Those are pretty much the only times I could make. Either one works.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Feb 15, 2006 -> 03:28 PM) Just curious, but do you all still have the orginal email adress you registered under? Yes.

I hear this deal is only 50-50 now. I hope it goes through. I want Milicic to show what he has.

I didn't get one either. I'm pretty pissed as I've been registered for over 2 years.

I doubt Crede bats 9th.

QUOTE(Punch and Judy Garland @ Feb 14, 2006 -> 11:00 PM) Darko could join the likes of T-Mac and J-O'Neal who have success as a HS on their second team. Plus with expectations and whatnot with that great draft class its just not ever going to happen for him there. I can't believe Starbury and the Franchise could be in the same backcourt. Let alone the two of them with Jamal Crawford. Will a frontcourt player shoot the ball in the second half of the season for the Knicks? That's what I think of when I think of Darko. At the very least, he'll be Toni Kukoc part 2. As far as that NY backcourt, that's brutal, but supposedly JC will go to Orlando or Denver in any deal netting them Francis.

Darko will turn it around. He's too talented not to. Just watch.

Honestly, I rather would have had Delgado. Way less injury concerns. And Delgado didn't want to come here or go anywhere for that matter in 2004. People constantly forget that. He didn't want to leave Toronto because he didn't want to leave for a team and have to go through the hassle of finding a house and all the accomodations for half a season. White Sox fans take things too personal. The way people talk about him make it seem like he said, "f*** the Sox" which was absolutely not the case.

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Feb 13, 2006 -> 11:51 PM) What a story the Hornets are becoming. They win again on a last second buzzer beater by David West. They're even getting it done with Paul. Is there a more underrated player in the game than Speedy Claxton? I love this guy. Good things always happen when he's on the court. He's too injury prone to be considered underrated. That's been his knock.

Anna is more attractive, but a girl who wins and is attractive is good enough for me.

For some reason, I didn't get a promo code to get tickets early. I'm registered with WhiteSox.com too :shrugs:

Nice win by Villanova. Crean isn't leaving Marquette though for whoever thinks that. I'm 95% sure of that. He likes it waayyy too much there for him to contemplate leaving that place.

QUOTE(Steff @ Feb 13, 2006 -> 10:43 AM) Jr isn't with them. He's here in school. Didn't Oney stop going to school? I know he was going to UIC, but someone who supposedly was his roommate said he left.