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QUOTE(Credepopsup @ Feb 21, 2006 -> 09:34 AM) 12 team Roto League. Picked 11th. Only the 2nd fantasy baseball team I've ever drafted. Be gentle.. C - Posada 1B - Huff, Kotchman (took a flyer on him in the last round) 2B - Cano 3B - Chavez, Beltre (16th round, couldn't resist, will put him in the Utility spot) SS - Lugo, Uribe OF - Abreu, Bay, Dye, Wilkerson (18th round - a steal, imho) SP - C.Zambrano, Harden, Lackey, L.Hernandez, C.Young, Loaiza, Penny. RP - F.Rodriguez, F.Cordero Batting average isn't great (it's s***ty actually), and steals are a concern - only Lugo (39), Abreu (31) and Bay (21) got over 20 last year. A third reliever would've been good so I'll probably drop Loiaza or Penny for another RP. It was a bit of a risky draft, as some of these players underperformed last season, and if they don't "bounce back" I've got no chance. Rip away.. Well in all of my leagues Wilkerson didn't get drafted at all.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Feb 20, 2006 -> 05:51 PM) It has absolutely nothing to do with any of the players ability. Nothing. Nor trade kickers as well. For shame ESPN.

The RealGM trade checker that they have up is not the full version, not even close from what I've heard. Also, teams like the Bulls and Spurs, along with 4 other teams(all playoff teams from last year) use RealGM's full trade checker. Only thing ESPN has on RealGM is salaries and Marbury's contract matches what hoopshype has on him which I hear is wrong.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Feb 20, 2006 -> 05:31 PM) Ummm I hate the Lakers. Laker fans and the organization were exstatic when Rice left. His wife shot off her mouth continuosly and Rice started to play terribly, especially in the playoffs. Kobe had ZERO say at that point in time. Maybe Shaq didn't like him, but it had nothing to do with Kobe. The traded did give Kobe more playing time because they felt Rice was more of a true SF while Eddie Jones was more of a SG, which was what Kobe played. I would venture to say that his wife added as the mouthpiece. http://www.jsonline.com/sports/buck/jun00/...t15s1061500.asp

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Feb 20, 2006 -> 05:00 PM) How so? I don't think it diferrentiates the different types of players like BYC players(1&2) and I haven't tried it for Duhon yet, but I doubt it tells you that he can't be traded without his permission.

QUOTE(Felix @ Feb 20, 2006 -> 04:42 PM) Well, the only reason I was thinking of trading him is because the lack of RBI's he'll have this year, being on a team with virtually no offense besides himself. I would try to trade him for Chavez and a mediocre pitcher if those are your concerns.

QUOTE(Felix @ Feb 20, 2006 -> 04:37 PM) I'll throw mine out there. C Joe Mauer 1B Paul Konerko 2B Tadahito Iguchi 3B Miguel Cabrera SS Juan Uribe CI Lyle Overbay MI Carlos Guillen LF Jason Bay CF Willy Taveras RF Jermaine Dye OF Aaron Rowand OF Mark Kotsay UTIL Johnny Gomes UTIL Brad Wilkerson BN Preston Wilson BN Joe Crede BN A.J. Pierzynski BN Jason Michaels SP Roy Oswalt SP Ben Sheets SP Andy Pettitte RP Huston Street RP Neal Cotts RP Cliff Pollitte P Barry Zito P Zach Duke BN Chris Young BN Brendan Donnelly This was in a 10 team league, MI is middle infielder and CI is corner infielder. Yea, I know I took a lot of White Sox. I think Paulie will have another 40/100 year, while I believe Iguchi will further his game hitting later in the lineup. As for Juan, I think he can be a solid #2 hitter with the protection he has in the lineup. The league doesn't take into account OBP, and he provides some solid power for a SS. I took Crede for the few months in the year he is above average, and the power he provides. AJP is a good backup at catcher, and will hit a fair amount of homeruns. Right now, I'm trying to trade Cabrera in a deal that would bring Texiera to my team, who I would then spin for Ichiro and some other pieces. I'm also looking to add a closer, since I really only have one on my team. I've inquired about Jenks, but I think its unlikely he'll get moved. So, any thoughts on this team that I haven't covered? I definately would not trade Cabrera unless you're getting a 3B of his calibur back. There aren't that many great 3B out there. You'd be a sucker to trade him IMO.

QUOTE(ZoomSlowik @ Feb 20, 2006 -> 04:17 PM) I think you mean post All-star game. I'd be pretty happy if he gave me his pre-All-star numbers. I'm expecting about 25 homers with 30 steals and an average around .280. That's not that unreasonable (actually right around his career average as a starter), and is still pretty good. He's too good a hitter to do much worse. My only real concern with him is that he stops running, but that doesn't seem terribly likely. He had a rough half a season, everyone is bound to do it once in a while. I'm also a little leery about Tracy, but he'll at least give me the batting average even if I don't get the 30 homers. I know Alou is an injury risk, but he hits when he's healthy. Winn isn't anything special, but he's probably good for about 15 homers and 20 steals, and hitting in front of Bonds should help a lot. I think I got a steal in Hermida, he's got enough power and speed to produce like an early round pick. This team is a result of my strategy toward OF's. I typically draft a player at a different position as opposed to an OF if the value is similar. There are just so many more quality options than at other positions. I'm not going to pass on someone like Vlad or Manny, but I don't really think it's worth using an early pick on people like Damon or Matsui when I get get someone similar 3 or 4 rounds later. Plus I can usually find at least one credible option in FA, and I've got a high priority so I can someone that gets dropped or Delmon Young when/if the D-Rays ever realize that he's at worst their second best option at the position. Yeah post. I like Hermida and forgot to add that in my original post.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Feb 20, 2006 -> 04:01 PM) WRONG. Rice was driven out of LA cause he started to suck and his wife wouldn't ever shut the hell up. She drove the organization nuts. Your full of it on Eddie Jones. He was very well liked by the organization and it was a tough trade to make but one they felt had to be made. They also unloaded Elden Cambell who had a pretty bad contract in that deal. Kobe haters...stop making up s*** just for the sake of trying to slam Kobe. There are a lot of things you can slam him for, but most of the s*** you haters post is just ridiculous. I think you're too in love with Kobe. Rice wasn't driven out. He was a FA IIRC and he left because Phil wanted him to be Pippen and was mad that they couldn't get Pippen. There's even quotes somewhere about that. Don't let your love for the Lakers blind you. Eddie Jones wasn't liked by either Shaq and Kobe and Buss liked him, but preferred Kobe. Shaq was the one who most bumped heads with Eddie Jones. None of that is made up. It was in the media at one time or the other. Don't let your Lakers love/Kobe love blind you man.

QUOTE(ZoomSlowik @ Feb 20, 2006 -> 01:26 PM) Thought I'd add mine and let people lay into my team for a change. I think this is a pretty good team (especially the lineup), although I don't play roto enough to know exactly how this one will hold up (standard 5x5). C- Jojima 1B- Konerko, Mi. Sweeney, Tracy, Utley 2B- Utley SS- Furcal, Barmes 3B- Wright, eventually Tracy OF- Abreu, Tracy, Winn, Alou, Hermida SP- Zambrano, Contreras, Hudson, Vazquez, Cain, Blanton RP- Ryan, Isringhausen OF could use some work, especially if Abreu continues his ways pre all-star game. I think Tracy is overrated and eventually will show that this year. Just a hunch. I like your pitching. Isringhausen is one of the most solid guys out there.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Feb 20, 2006 -> 02:50 PM) Are you kidding me. Nick Van drove himself out of pretty much everywhere he went. The guy was a total attitude problem. Eddie Jones was dealt to get a shooter. Phil wanted a guy that could shoot and he got that in Glen Rice. People tend to forget that Glen Rice played a really key role in at least one of there championships. On a sidenote, you do realize when Nick the Prick got dumped it was only Kobe's 2nd year. Kobe was looking like a real good future player, but he didn't have any clout in the organization. Got, what a ridiculous ass argument. Also, Nick had a bad contract to boot. And Kobe still had no say when Eddie was shipped out a year later (after Kobe's 3rd season). Well Van Exel did run himself out in LA. As far as the other stops, that's not true. He liked Denver and they just traded him because they thought they were getting a better deal at the time. He was traded from Dallas as a business deal. Jones was traded solely because of Shaq and Kobe from what I know. They really didn't get along back then(don't know about now) and Buss loved Kobe's charisma. Rice was had because they couldn't get Pippen which is what drove Glen crazy in LA and the sole reason he left LA.

I don't think the concept is bad, but the delivery could use alot of work. I think alot of people are giving this hate though beause it's a "positive" Cubs article.

Let's move the ring ceremony to the first game at home against the Tigers. Honestly, I was really mad when he left because of the way he left, but now that I calmed down, I kind of wish he won it with us. I won't lose sleep over this though.

I voted for 2 simply because Garcia is dominant on the road. I haven't looked at the schedule though.

QUOTE(ZoomSlowik @ Feb 20, 2006 -> 08:56 AM) The first team is pretty solid. I'm not a huge fan of the left side of your infield, but that could definitely work out for you. I like your outfield picks, and you're got a solid starting staff. Your only weaknesses seem to be speed and saves, and I don't know how easy those will be to remedy. The second team has another really solid starting staff, only you got some closers to back it up. The outfield on that team is an absolute monster. I'd consider trading one of them for some infield help, because it looks pretty weak unless Nomar hits like he used to. I'd go for a speed guy, since that again appears to be a weak spot. The third team seems to be your weakest at the moment. Your starting staff is easily the weakest of the teams. I think you're good enough at second and obviously third, but I'd try to add another 1B/OF by trading either Wright or Ramirez. That would give you some more flexibility while bolstering your lineup. It seems that you like taking SP and OF early in the draft while largely avoiding speed. That can work well since most infielders and speed guys are overrated, but you still need to take a few of them to give your team more balance. On top of that, you generally want to take a top hitter over a top pitcher since the hitters are more durable and consistent, but if you can get monster starters below value, go for it. Also, on two of your teams you decided to take a catcher early. I wouldn't do that in the future. It allows you to solidify other areas, because frankly I don't think Varitek and I-Rod outproduce A.J. enough to warrant even a 3 round difference, and they usually go a lot more than 3 rounds earlier. For the first team, Pierre's about to be dropped and I'm working on a deal for Podsednik. I'm definately going to pick up Pierre off of the waiver wire. Second team, I'm thinking about sending Bonds and Chris Young for Scott Podsednik and Jose Contreras. You think I should do it?

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Feb 19, 2006 -> 10:26 PM) Well, I'd rather have him starting if he's healthy. That just can't even be considered an if anymore. He can't stay healthy, period. Well if healthy, I'd like him to DH so we could give Thome and PK complete days off without having to do a thing without sacrificing our lineup.

I'd rather have him on the bench than the other possible backup OF options as well if he's healthy.

He's a great player without them in my mind. I don't know if he did or didn't and I personally don't care because he never played for the White Sox.

This one is pretty bad. I'm sure RealGM will be getting a cut from this machine.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Feb 19, 2006 -> 10:13 AM) I don't believe the turnstiles have counters anymore. Those hand held things are probably more accurate. I'm sure they keep track of the attendance actual and tickets sold or accounted for, but remember this you aren't going to ever have more people than total of tickets either comped or sold. I don't believe the fire marshall is ever going to have a problem with the amount of people at USCF. As far as vendors and White Sox employees having to "swipe" in, that's pretty routine practice today. I would venture to guess that's more for security reasons than worrying about going over capacity. Nope, at least when I last worked there, even with the PDA's, the turnstiles still had counters. And when there was someone in a wheel chair, they would go around and we'd still have to turn the counter for them. The PDA's are just to make sure there isn't a duplicate ticket that's inside the building and to stop counterfeit tickets.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Feb 19, 2006 -> 09:36 AM) Like your teams, the only thing is that if Halladay goes down, your in trouble with ALL your teams. You have Berkman,Jenks, Ordonez,Uribe,Chirs Young, and Carl Pavano on all 3 teams. If two or three of those guys have bad seasons or get hurt, you really hurt all 3 teams. Well I don't think Halladay's going to go down this year as well as Berkman, Jenks, Ordonez, or Uribe. Pavano is a question mark. Young will benefit from that nice big ballpark in San Diego. I like Uribe's protection in the lineup and there really wasn't any other available SS.

Here's my teams. Gimme Input. I would've created a new thread, but I think we should just make this a big "judge my fantasy team" superthread. Thoughts??

I guarentee you they won't sell it for that much.

I think they should've let all of them battle it out.

If he had a manager like Guillen, his team woulnd't be so full of prima-donnas and they would have an edge.