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Looks like Ron Howard is. He's decked out in a Sox uni and is in our dugout.

My suspicion has always been that he didn't want to play in front of the home crowd unless he was going to get a drastically better offer. I guess I'm right.

Brandon Lloyd got traded to the Redskins for a 2006 3rd round pick and a 2007 4th round pick.

Awesome. Congrats man. *tears*

Nevermind, he's just wearing the hat. Alot of people find White Sox hats fashionable.

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Mar 11, 2006 -> 04:45 PM) Elton Brand for Tyson Chandler is still one of the worst trades in Bulls history. Screw talking about Chandler's potential. Brand is a stud and Chandler was supposed to be at least as good as him, if not better, and the fact is that he isn't no matter how anyone tries to swing it. I'll defend what Krause was trying to do and I don't think it's a bad trade if you don't look at it from hindsight. Tyson was a dominant high school player. His game did resemble KG's alot which is why you heard alot of people calling him Baby KG. I'm not mad at the trade, but anyone who defends Tyson as it currently stands and acts as if he's great is delirious IMHO.

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Mar 11, 2006 -> 04:25 PM) tyson's defense = waayyyyy overrated by Bulls fans I agree. I was a huge advocate of the trade when it went down all up until this year basically. I loved having two 7 footers and Chandler as a prospect in high school made me jizz in my pants. The guy was able to shoot the 3 in high school, handle the rock very nice for a 7 footer and had moves in the post with a legit mid-range game. Ever since he entered the NBA, that all went away. And to think, Tyson was the big man on campus at Dominguez when they had a nice player who actually developed in Tayshaun Prince. Chandler is no Bill Russell on defense and not even close. His offensive effectiveness reminds me of Chris Antsey and I think that's still giving TC too much credit. He plays decent defense and he gets blocks. So does Darko in Orlando in terms of blockage.

I kind of agree with him. I mean, you had at least 2 big presences in that locker room. Everyone on that team loved Carl Everett. And yeah they had great chemistry starting off because most of these guys were here the previous year. You're bringing in a bunch of new people now and expecting some of them to take leadership roles. Honestly, I don't think PK is a leader. I kind of got that impression when he really didn't want to wear the "C". It seems like he doesn't want to be responsible if the team is doing bad. Don't confuse my statements as saying I don't think we could win it this year. I think we have as good as shot as anybody else, but chemistry is certainly a factor.

I think the Bears should go balls in and get a T.O. or a Isaac Bruce(more realistic). Randle-El, while a nice player is an inferior player to Bradley as a 2nd WR IMO.

Set It Off by Juvenile.

QUOTE(iWiN4PreP @ Mar 7, 2006 -> 02:40 PM) agreed! If he's into rap, I agree that would be an excellent choice.

I honestly like his suggestion. POD is good with me. Boom is a fitting song too since that's how his fastball comes out of his hand. Very good song IMO.

I always miss the first half of the season when it comes to the Sox Pride DVD. The World Series DVD is on right now.

I'm still mad over getting Kerry Wood. STUPID ME FOR MISSING THE DRAFT!

Have a great Birthday guys. Definately two cool posters on the board.

I had the worst possible draft anyone could have all because I forgot the draft was at 8:30.

QUOTE(Cuck the Fubs @ Mar 4, 2006 -> 10:47 PM) Sigh. If only high schoolers could go pro right away, then it'd be Greg Oden. :banghead Honestly, I don't think it would be. His financial situation from what I know doesn't have him or his family in dire need of cash. Before they implemented the whole rule, Oden was talking about going to college for awhile and maybe even going until he graduated. I honestly believe he would've been going to college with or without the rule. I also heard somewhere recently, that he stated that he'll stay in college until he feels he'll be ready to make an immediate impact in the NBA his rookie year.

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Mar 4, 2006 -> 11:28 PM) I don't think that anyone has questioned Gordon's scoring ability. Most people here have questioned his ball-handling and defensive abilities. 'cept for Skiles who says Gordon has improved on both, though he still has work to put in.

I guess that game was proof why Gordon sucks so much.

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Mar 4, 2006 -> 03:52 PM) LeMarcus Aldridge. LaMarcus. A instead of E.

I say he gets injured in games 3 of 4. Apparently I'm not the only one.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Mar 4, 2006 -> 08:28 AM) Larry Bird and Magic Johnson weren't particularly known for their defensive prowess. Gordon isn't a very good defensive player, but he has improved. His offensive game is at times, unbelievable. Unless he's going in a trade or as part of a trade for a guy like Garnett, I hope the Bulls keep him. If I was Pax, there is no way I would trade him for Pierce. As for the draft, the Bulls certainly need some big players, and definitely need someone who can score on the block. But, I think it is still imperative they draft the best player on the board when they pick. You can get the other guys in FA or trades, and trades seem to be the way Pax is leaning right now. It is an extreme example and one that most likely does not apply to this draft or most drafts, but Portland probably cost itself several championships drafting a need instead of the best player in 1984. In 2 or 3 seasons when hopefully the Bulls are ready to contend for a championship, the glut at certain positions works itself out. It wasn't too long ago the Bulls had too many PF. I agree and I think Pax thinks the same as well.

QUOTE(LowerCaseRepublican @ Mar 3, 2006 -> 06:06 AM) Unofficial St. Patrick's Day is about as accurate at portraying the Irish as if...say, I put on blackface, ate fried chicken and watermelon and then washed it down with a forty in a brown paper bag while calling it Unofficial Martin Luther King Jr. Day. I have chosen not to partake in Unofficial. This is on account of my being neither a virulent racist nor an imbecile so obsessed with finding excuses for inebriation that I am able to shun the analytical thoughts emanating from either my conscience or neocortex. Sporting events are worthy of strong drink. Celebrating one's birthday is likewise a legitimate excuse, if one so desires it. But of course herein lies the problem that people feel the need for a REASON. It is as if a life-threatening and brain-curdling twelve-hour binge miraculously becomes good for a person if he or she puts on a silly green hat and customized single-use t-shirt and does it with thousands of other undergrad sheep. Allow me to give credit to today's celebrants who also believe that Chief Illiniwek is an honorable symbol of Native American culture. At least they are consistent in their views. I, of course, see the Chief as offensive to some but completely harmless in any real terms. If it goes, too bad. It's kind of cool. If it stays, too bad. Some people will still be offended. I would love to poll the Unofficial drinkers on their Chief position. Do I expect to find unanimity? Heck no. I blindly guarantee that a significant percentage of these people will say that the Chief needs to go because it is racist. These people are hypocrites, and need to be labeled such. This is the charming part of the bourgeois liberalism that lurks in the GOP-gerrymandered Congressional districts that turn nearly every American urban metropolis into a blue bullseye on a map. As long as it doesn't affect me, my expensive clothes, my cheap gasoline for my expensive SUV and my cheaply bottled Coca-Cola Classic that together comprise a trip to an Illini sporting event, then I am up in arms. But as soon as they try to take away justification for Mickey Mantle-level favoritism on the liver transplant list, then they have gone too far. But have I, in declaring Unofficial St. Patrick's Day an ignorant and racist celebration, gone too far? I believe not. Allow me to provide a quick history of the legitimate St. Patrick's Day. St. Patrick's day is the feast day of Patrick, patron saint of Ireland, the excluded, and protector from snakes (for much of the past half millennium, the first category fit nicely into the second). He converted Ireland to Christianity from paganism and became Bishop of Ireland. This move allowed the Irish monasteries to preserve literacy and much of Western history during the era of the Viking invasions of the late Middle Ages. The legends of Patrick claim that he drove snakes from Ireland (understood now as symbolism for paganism) and used the three-pointed shamrock to explain to the most powerful Irish chieftain the Trinity: the tri-part nature of God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit. Over time, St. Patrick's Day has been transformed from a traditional Catholic feast day into a secular holiday celebrating Irish heritage and culture. Dublin, Ireland, has an annual cultural festival that attracts thousands of people from all over the country and Europe. American cities with large Irish populations, such as New York City, Boston and Chicago have parades. Chicago dyes the Chicago River green (they do so fine a job it stays that way year-round). But this international celebration of Irish culture has been expanded beyond this secular celebration. Granted, the wearing of the green has been accompanied by the drinking of the ale, but the sense of community fostered by this celebration has been demeaned by the perpetrators of this cultural travesty called Unofficial into obnoxiously oafish drunkenness with no socially or culturally redeeming value. Phrases like "Kiss me; I'm Irish" are found everywhere on T-shirts. Non-Irish-Americans and Irish-Americans alike buy into the idea that Everybody's Irish on St. Patrick's Day. While this view could easily take the form of solidarity with downtrodden and oppressed people the world over - donations of money and used possessions to charities or donations of time at soup kitchens or homeless shelters - people (both Irish and not) attach the Irish culture to a simple 4-letter word: beer. Everyone is Irish, so everyone is an obnoxious drunk. They envision Ireland as a nation of alcoholic leprechauns and nothing more. They do this not on St. Patrick's day proper (although I'm sure many do that day, as well), but on an arbitrary, convenient day. Can I blame people for consuming alcohol? No. But thousands of people are carrying out negative stereotypes of the Irish with absolutely no regard for what they are doing. It honestly hurts to see my heritage spat on by thousands of people for the sole purpose of consuming green beer. Irish history is rich and complex, transforming from tribal chiefdoms into thirty-two counties separated into a nation of twenty-six and a captive country of six by British delusions about remaining an empire. People here know basically nothing about Irish history. It's all about the shamrocks, crosses and alcohol. These people wouldn't even be worthy enough to carry Bobby Sands' H-Blocks-issue blanket if they even knew who he was and what he did. Culture to these racists is "f**goty" dancing, not beautiful rebel songs that simultaneously warm the heart and stir the soul. Check out the Wolfe Tones performing "A Nation Once Again," "Joe McDonnell," "The Wearing of the Green" and "Come Out Ye Black and Tans" if you don't believe me. My concern here is St. Patrick's Day as an Irish heritage day, much as Columbus Day and Pulaski Day, respectively, represent Italian and Polish pride days. What Unofficial and its thousands of participants convey as being "Irish" or "Irish-American" is tantamount to celebrating an Unofficial Martin Luther King Day on which thousands of students would smear their faces with black grease paint and proceed to wash down their fried chicken and watermelon with a forty-ounce bottle of malt liquor concealed in a brown paper bag. This is not representative of African-American culture. What it is, however, is an abysmal manifestation of our inward unhealth as a society: this crowd of mutant locusts prefers to reinforce stereotypes that demean a minority population at the cost of reifying falsehoods and ignoring countless contributions. Of course Unofficial MLK Day couldn't fly, even if done with the utmost sincerity. Irish is white, so Irish doesn't count. A leprauchan mascot causes much less division than an Aztec warrior or Plains Chief. It's the way it is. I'm not asking for Unofficial to be forcibly shut down. People should be free to do as they please. I'm not being physically harmed by these drunkards (excluding the potential of drunk driving accidents). It's a mental strain, but that's my issue. That's why I'm ranting here as opposed to in the middle of Green Street, yelling, "Come out ye black-and-tans / come out and fight me like a man / show your wife how you won medals down in Flanders / Tell her how the IRA made you run like hell away / From the green and lovely lanes of Killeshandra." If you're Irish, or at least have a bit of an understanding of what the history is all about, then you know what I'm talking about. I know that it might be asking a bit much, but stop being so self-serving and ignorant. Green beer is a fine part of St. Patrick's Day. It goes along with the corned beef, boiled cabbage and homemade soda bread you should be eating with your family after the parade. When you're going to partake in a racist, essentializing day of selfish hedonism (This is America, after all. For most people, it is a when question, not an if.), at least perform a little favor for the people whose ancestors' graves you are publically pissing on. Learn something. Anything. Find out about Patrick, Bishop of Ireland. Research the history of the Republican movement. Congratulations, by the way, to Sinn Fein, as it is this year turning one hundred years old. Learn about the hunger strikes. The British oppression. The proposed razing of the Irish table in favor of restarting it with "civilized" British blood. The experience of Irish immigrants to America and what they faced here upon arrival. Something. Anything. Give my ancestors some respect before you go out and piss and puke all over their memory. That was possibly the greatest post I've ever witnessed on these boards.

QUOTE(fathom @ Mar 3, 2006 -> 02:30 PM) Yes, I watch every game, and the team you listed earlier with Hinrich, Deng, Chandler, Noc, etc. would be a great team if scoring wasn't important. Gordon might have a lot of weaknesses on the court. However, one of his greatest strengths has been his clutch performances at the end of games. I'm sick and f***ing tired of seeing Hinrich not come through at the end of games. He's the pro version of Chris Quinn. Great for 95 pct of the game, but downright pathetic for the final 5 pct of the game. Thank you. Defense keeps you in games, offense is needed to win them. Or has there been a team in basketball history that I don't know about that has won by the score of 0-0?

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Mar 3, 2006 -> 09:41 AM) If Duhon was so much better at running the offense, why isn't he the starting PG. I'm not going to say anything else though. Obviously we differ on opinon way too much. You dislike Kirk and dont' think he's any good. I don't. I don't think he sucks and I think he's a quality player, but he gets overrated alot for "trying." And Duhon isn't starting right now because the Bulls want as many scorers on the floor to start the game. Gordon takes pressure off of KH believe it or not. Duhon could be a starter for at least half the teams in the league though.