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Wow, I just watched KW's interview on ESPN and he went at him hard. One thing the article doesn't mention KW saying is, "We don't miss his b****ing."

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Feb 26, 2006 -> 08:58 PM) Cause a lot of the sports in the olympics I just don't care about. For the sports I do, the rest of the world cares about the medals more then the U.S. to be honest. The olympics just never interest me. It's nothing against the olympics, I personally just don't care. That's a problem IMO. We don't care much about the Olympics anymore and that's why the US loses in sports they should win in. Personally for me, I love the Olympics. You get to go up against the whole world. It's the ultimate competition to me. I understand though that you don't like the olympics. Maybe it's just not many peoples cup of tea. QUOTE(Cuck the Fubs @ Feb 26, 2006 -> 09:24 PM) I agree. Aside from that, the L runs all day thru most sporting venues as it is, maybe run a PACE bus thru NU, but the L runs all over. I enjoy taking the L I do too. At first I thought it was bad, but I throw on my MP3 player and don't mind it. Or I'll talk to some people. QUOTE(Cuck the Fubs @ Feb 26, 2006 -> 09:34 PM) My chemistry teacher lived in Atlanta during the 1996 games, he said traffic was bad, but not horrendusly terrible. Chicago shouldn't be too bad, since we have a good mass transit network Yeah, I would imagine it would go alot smoother here than Atlanta. We have one of the best, if not the best mass transit network.

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Feb 26, 2006 -> 10:17 PM) Ahh, Frank is unprofessional. Kenny, a team executive, can call the best Sox player ever a selfish idiot, and it's completely justified. Gotcha. That's pretty much how it is unfortunately. I'll root for both Kenny(I was one of those supporters when so many wanted him fired) and Frank. Talk just adds to good tv drama and a better chance of selling out that A's series.

QUOTE(southsideirish @ Feb 26, 2006 -> 09:20 PM) They do? I would highly doubt that other players care what Curt Schilling think or says. I also think that most have forgotten all about the lockout just as many fans have. Ok, then just take any player that ever left the Sox. Who knows if they are bitter that they left the Sox. We have no clue how they really feel regardless of what they say. Olivo wasn't pissed at all. What Frank said wasn't false, it just wasn't entirely true. The White Sox are not a player unfriendly organization. Thome wanted to be here. Konerko wants to be here and took less to stay. Many players like it here and for the most part players have come and gone with nothing bad to say at all. Only a select few have had bad things to say or left with animosity. That is where he is wrong. I'm pretty sure they do care what Curt Schilling says when players who were on the team say it as well. Olivo was pissed and I don't know why you dont take that into consideration. And don't forget about the way KW toyed around with Kelly Wunsch before he dropped him. And do you honestly think that PK stays if they don't go 5 years and/or add Thome? I personally don't.

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Feb 26, 2006 -> 09:14 PM) HUH? IIRC, Alomar fired his agent after 2003 because he f***ed up a deal where the White Sox were going to re-sign him. Olivo was a crybaby. I don't think that's true. Wasn't Alomar the one which he said, KW told him he was going to resign him for X amount of dollars and when he was about to sign the contract, it was something else which set off Robbie? I'm pretty sure that's him.

QUOTE(southsideirish @ Feb 26, 2006 -> 09:05 PM) First of all you are taking "f*** Alomar" out of context. What I was trying to get across was "Forget I brought Alomar up". No one can actually point out to me how he left, so I just said "f*** him". In other words forget I brought him up since we can't prove if he left on a good or bad note. I am not dismissing him at all. I didn't know Schilling was a former player, so I really don't care about him. He would never pitch for the Sox because he believes, as do many, that Reinsdorf was responsible for the lockout. That is the only reason. Who the f*** cares about Schilling and what he thinks anyway? He should actually get off his high horse anyway. David Wells left our organization on good terms. You may not care, but other players around the league probably do. Players talk with other players and they do influence decisions. And Olivo was pissed because I guess he wasn't notified about being on the block. You can't dismiss these players as examples so quickly. Some may still be bitter, some may not. I'm just stating that what Frank is saying isn't false.

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Feb 26, 2006 -> 09:03 PM) Ozzie and Fisk were definitely ticked. Robin was, iirc, upset, but much more low key. Plus, so many fans were upset on his behalf (while with Oz and Fisk everyone could see they were done). Miggy was upset, but only behind closed doors. But I guess that counts now. I think Frank is wrong, dead wrong, on the whole 'Sox treating their players' stuff. If he didn't like the diminished skills clause, he didn't need to sign the contract. The Sox indeed did him a favor in tearing up that whole mess. Being wrong doesn't make him a selfish idiot, though. I did forget Fisk. Shame on me.

QUOTE(southsideirish @ Feb 26, 2006 -> 08:57 PM) Olivo did not leave on bad terms. I don't consider crying because you don't want to go leaving on bad terms. Maybe to you it is, but not me. He was also mad when he got to Seattle because he thought he was supposed to be our future catcher. It wasn't only tears, but angryness from him. I don't know how he feels now because I stopped paying attention to his career after he couldn't get PT from Seattle.

QUOTE(southsideirish @ Feb 26, 2006 -> 08:56 PM) f*** Alomar then. Point being more players have left here on good terms than bad and Frank doesn't mention the players that left on good terms. He would like to point out only the players that left on bad terms because that suits his argument. You can't say "f*** him then." It just doesn't work that way. If it were just 1 or 2 players who've had a problem with the organization, it would be fine and dandy, but this organization is known to have rocky relationships and breakups. Also, don't forget Curt Schilling as he's said he'd never pitch for the Chicago White Sox. You might like the players, but the players do have alot of weight around the league, especially the star players. To simply dismiss any player who says they dislike the way the franchise handles things is ignorant IMO.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Feb 26, 2006 -> 08:47 PM) If I cared about the olympics I wouldn't care about all that stuff but I don't so I do. I ask this question, if everyone is such a sports fan, why don't you care about sports on the ultimate level(worldwide competition)? I never got that.

QUOTE(southsideirish @ Feb 26, 2006 -> 08:52 PM) Nope, never heard he was pissed. Never heard Robin was pissed and I never heard R. Alomar was pissed or called KW a liar. I think all of these are mad up accusations until I get to see some proof. I honestly don't remember with Robin, but I remember Olivo and Alomar. Alomar especially after he left the first time and signed with the D-Backs. He was really discontent. That's not made up.

QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Feb 26, 2006 -> 08:46 PM) Roberto Alomar and Miguel Olivo left on awful terms. Don't you remember Alomar pretty much calling KW a liar. I remember Alomar as well not being fond of KW.

QUOTE(southsideirish @ Feb 26, 2006 -> 08:44 PM) I don't recall Robin leaving on bad terms. I do recall a bunch of players leaving on good terms as well. Carl Everett, Aaron Rowand, Miguel Olivo, Greg Walker, Roberto Alomar, and Sandy Alomar Jr. just to name a few. Why did he not mention them? I thought Olivo was pissed when he found out he had been traded and was also sad too. I don't know if I'd call that leaving on good terms.

QUOTE(3E8 @ Feb 26, 2006 -> 08:40 PM) What does that asterisk represent? Any other band.

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Feb 26, 2006 -> 03:37 PM) Good stuff. The crowd was definitely great today. This will be a big momentum booster going into a place like Purdue. It'll make that game seem that much easier. 17 wins is the magic number. Purdue should already be an easy team. You shouldn't need momentum to beat them if you're a deserving tournament team. And yes, I've factored in that Purdue is your biggest rival.

Do all of you guys drive to downtown or something? I would love to have the olympics here. It would be a great thing for the city. Holding the Olympic Games here alone pays for costs and then some. I doubt the Metra schedule changes if the Olympic games are held here. Same with CTA. In fact, they'll probably run more frequent. I'm sure most of you guys take public transportation anyway. I say quit the complaing and have a good time watching a bunch of sports.

QUOTE(southsideirish @ Feb 26, 2006 -> 08:30 PM) :banghead He didn't? He basically called them dishonest and unloyal to all players they deal with. How much more of an attack can you get? He did not "name call", but he did attack an insult the organization. I don't know how you can possibly say that. Did he say anything that's not true? Or did he hit too close to home for you guys? What he has said is pretty true if you look back over the years. Ozzie, Robin, Maggs, now him.

QUOTE(3E8 @ Feb 26, 2006 -> 08:20 PM) Has the quote from KW about practicing "no comment" and being a more respectful organization shown up yet? Brand New > *

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Feb 26, 2006 -> 08:24 PM) I wouldn't count on this particular controversy to fester throughout Spring Training. If Thomas is smart, he'll respond to these latest comments with a simple suggestion of "taking the high road;" among other variations which avoid the issue. If he quits right here, Williams looks foolish. He already does to many. No one should be surprised if people defend Williams. Fans often are void of objection when criticizing their own team. I think taking the high-road very well could happen. He'll say something like, "I just stated my opinions the White Sox. I have nothing to say to Kenny Williams nor do I owe him a comment. Thank you." Or he could go balls in and say, "Look at how they handled the Magglio situation last year. Ask Scott Eyre if he's happy with the White Sox as an organization."

I'm pretty sure some players do like Frank. Uribe was friends with Thomas and Uribe even learned the leg kick from Thomas. I personally don't care about this pissing contest between Thomas and KW. It's going to come down to whoever can throw the lowest blow. You know Billy Beane's got to love it since he dislikes KW.

I'll cheer him forever.

I really hope he does well.

QUOTE(ZoomSlowik @ Feb 25, 2006 -> 12:45 PM) It can't be your last team, you've still got to get beat in my league. That offense is a monster, and the pitching is pretty good. Lol, I'm going to handle you. For that team, we we're just bored in the computer lab so we decided to make a league and have a draft then and there.

QUOTE(Palehosefan @ Feb 25, 2006 -> 03:52 PM) I'm not the biggest Mardy Collins fan, he reminds me alot of Jamal Crawford minus the attitude. Yes he's 6'6, and plays PG, but I'm not sure if he can make the transition to the PG on the pro leve, especially staying in front of the quicker PG's. I see him as a 2/3 at the next level, and his shooting touch needs work. The upside is that he's a solid passer and a pretty smart player, just not sure where he's going to play. Shooting Guard. At 6'6, unless he was Magic Johnson, SG is the position he'll play.

QUOTE(AbeFroman @ Feb 25, 2006 -> 12:17 PM) This is actually more discouraging news about Lance Broadway than encouraging news about Joe Borchard. I agree. Also, I think Gload has the inside job on the last spot.