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QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Sep 8, 2015 -> 01:29 PM) Chris Sale >>>> Nolan Arenado. Sorry, that's not homerism, that's just fact. In my scenario, Quintana would net us Arenado who is a free agent in 2020. That is a Puig like return because he is a GG 3B, which are so rare to find. I trust the Sox with their pitching, that's why I could trade Q for this type of player. Eh, I'll take an everyday player who is 24, plays a good 3B and rakes over a 26 year old stud pitcher who plays only once every 5 days. Any moneyballer would too. I would say it is homerism. Now, I wouldn't deal Sale for anything short of an Arrenado level player.

QUOTE (Lillian @ Oct 4, 2015 -> 06:50 PM) If it were actually possible to acquire Davis, he would be the DH. "Where would LaRoche play?" How about the bench. Does anyone actually believe that the Sox could be competitive with La Roche in the middle of the lineup? To me, he is the single biggest reason this season was such a disaster, in view of all the low scoring games, in which the Sox came up short, with him batting (striking out) right in the heart of the order. He'll probably be even worse next year, when he'll be 36. The front office has to accept that they have one more year of a sunken cost in La Roche. He simply cannot be the DH. If he were a middle infielder, who hit like that you might be willing to live with it, but not a middle of the order DH!!!! Regarding the remark about Eaton. I love him, and admire what he has accomplished. He is the prototypical "overachiever". However, I wouldn't consider him worth big money. He's contract is a bargain. Advocates of Heyward are talking serious money. Moreover, if you can acquire a potent bat to DH, many of those holes become less important. They don't need above average players at every position, with their starting pitching. I think the Sox need to improve everywhere possible minus maybe pitching and first base. So if someone like LaRoche or Alexei or Eaton need to go to the bench or change positions, so be it. This team is both bad offensively and defensively.

QUOTE (Dunt @ Oct 4, 2015 -> 06:45 PM) Q is worth more than both Frazier and Puig I hope there's reports of the Sox going after both so that you can see, his value isn't as high as you or many people here like to think he is. To expand a bit as well, on talk radio here in LA, someone even brought up trading Puig for Quintana and they said not without another prospect or young hitting MLBer. When prospects were brought up, everyone said no to Seager or Urias for Quintana (they also talked about 4 other players as well). This was before the Dodgers got Latos and Wood.

QUOTE (AustinIllini @ Oct 4, 2015 -> 09:15 AM) This is really smaller picture. The reality is, I don't want Mike Thomas hiring another coach. Illinois would be wise to fire him first. I don't trust him either. Ironically though, they're going to need a dirty AD to turn this around. I don't see the football or basketball programs getting turned around without a guy like Butch Davis coaching football and basketball competing with the Coach K and Calipari's of the world. Until they're willing to do that, Illinois' sports programs look dead.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Oct 4, 2015 -> 09:56 AM) And the year before that it was Q for Jason Castro. Q, for whatever reason, is still undervalued on this board. I just don't get it. As for Frazier. Cannot say I like the idea of trading for yet another player heading into their last season before free agency. No thanks. Q is slightly overrated by anyone who thinks he can be the main guy in a deal for Seager or Arenado. Both guys are going to command Chris Sale or Q and a s***load of good prospects. The best you can get for Q is either going to be Frazier or Yasiel Puig (which you'd still send some middling prospects).

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Oct 3, 2015 -> 03:07 PM) Just give me Heyward. Then move Q in a blockbuster for Arenado. Then add a SP in FA. Q won't happen straight up for Arenado. Sox would have to send 2 or 3 prospects with Q. It would take Sale for Colorado to sell Arenado. He's that damn good at a premium position.

One of the most overrated players by Sox fans. He was a good pitcher, but not 1st or 2nd ballot HOF like some people around here used to make you think the way they talked about him. Had a cool personality though. I think Toronto could use him in the bullpen for the playoffs as a long reliever. Just in case one of their guys gets in trouble, they won't have to burn their bullpen.

I do remember the knock on Rodgers being he's a Tedford QB.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Sep 25, 2015 -> 06:50 PM) Even if he's peaked he'll be easily worth his contract. But his power numbers and baserunning value are significantly better than last year. The argument I'm making isn't is he worth his contract. He is, and I'm happy with him as an individual player. At the same time, the overall hitting on this team sucks. He's been playing CF and pretty good at it. I think he's peaked, you maybe don't. I'd trade him unless the Sox plan on bringing in a lot more legitimate players with him which it doesn't sound like they plan on doing. QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Sep 25, 2015 -> 07:37 PM) You're just wrong on so many levels. If you want to package him, package him for what? Trading him would make Abreu the only one on offense that is worth a damn right now. Sox have a rotation you can win with right now, just a matter of finding the right offensive players to go along with that. Eaton is definitely in that discussion. With 9 games left in the season, Eaton has tied his doubles from last year, 1 less triple, 12 more HRs, more RBIs, SBs the same, more walks, more strikeouts (negative), lower average (.283), lower OBP (356), higher ops. If you want Trayce in the lineup and move Eaton to LF then I could do that, but flat out trading him on a team friendly contract is just wrong. You want Adam Eaton in your lineup, you can win with him. Only thing I agree with you is that his defense has regressed this year, but was great last year. Give him a 3rd year to see how it goes. You trade him for a position of need. That's what you do in all trades. Seriously, you trade something to get something. I would love to trade Danks and turn him into Trout, but that ain't happening. Instead, you can trade Eaton for someone in the infield (hell, you need all positions but one). That's just one idea. QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 25, 2015 -> 09:32 PM) He's still young. Why has he peaked? His defense has gone down. His average and OBP have gone down. He k's more. You have more or less seen the best of him. Not saying his peak won't last longer than a year or 3. I'm just saying I don't think he's going to improve dramatically anywhere.

Ownership needs to change or at least change their philosophy to be committed to winning more than that committed to friendships and loyalty.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Sep 25, 2015 -> 05:10 PM) Eaton has very good minor league numbers too, it's not like he's come out of nowhere. I'm not sure why you think he's peaked. Has he showed vast improvement from one year to the next? Not really. In fact, you can argue his defense has gotten worse.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Sep 25, 2015 -> 05:46 PM) That makes zero sense. Makes perfect sense, especially if you think Eaton has peaked, which I do. I don't like him long term for this team unless we decide to sign a bunch of boppers.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Sep 25, 2015 -> 10:17 AM) If you trade your above average players that are locked up to team-friendly, sub-market, pre-free agency extensions, you will ALWAYS be rebuilding. Which is what the Sox should be doing. Eaton is hardly someone you should build around offensively or defensively. He can't carry you in either aspect. For a team looking to contend, he's the right player as one of the missing pieces. As a team so far away like the Sox, he should be the top of your trade block. Maybe Trayce isn't that good, maybe he is. Point is, you pet him play and find out what you have with him while some team overpays for Eaton.

Sorry, I rather have Trayce out there full time and see him learn the ropes. Eaton is a nice player to have, but is the type if player you should dump if you have a bad team. I'd trade him in a package.

Honestly, the Soc need to clean house outside of Abreu and Sale. Even then, I might see what I can fetch for Sale. Let KW go. I'd also let Hahn go and fire Robin. Trade Quintana, Eaton, Johnson, and everyone outside of Abreu and Sale, and load up on prospects. I don't want to hear about we don't have a spot open in the OF or infield. This while team pretty much sucks.

QUOTE (Boogua @ Sep 15, 2015 -> 11:36 AM) +1 At this point, I can't see how anyone could be confident about any ball player picking Illinois.

QUOTE (Boogua @ Sep 13, 2015 -> 10:55 PM) Rodgers, Luck, Brady, Brees, Manning? I mean, he's good, and maybe you can make an argument for him, but I wouldn't say easily. Hell of a comeback though. Manning is done. Brees is almost done. I'd put Romo in the top 5 category these days.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Sep 10, 2015 -> 07:00 PM) Me neither, the red lines were cool. Eh, it's an ode to the old Chicago Stadium. I noticed all the older folks who were able to see a game at Chicago Stadium love it. Younger folks hate it. Don't worry, that's the same reaction the older folks had when the court at the United Center was revealed.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 12, 2015 -> 05:12 PM) Thought it was cause they didn't stop it on a first down. ND would have used their timeouts anyways. Agreed. I noticed the previous 2 plays, they didn't stop the clock which they're supposed to after 1st downs. I hate ND, but this game isn't the game to call a conspiracy.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Sep 10, 2015 -> 10:45 PM) The way things are going once they put that Sox uniform on = bust. Maybe Miggy performs but Pujols would require a team taking on a lot of salary. It's a bad contract since I think he is signed until he's 90. True, but maybe they don't bust. Pujols is still doing pretty good. Surprising since I think the Angels have a crap lineup with two generational type thumpers at the 2 and 3 spot with Trout and Pujols. Everyone else they throw out there is mediocre. Only exceptions may be Calhoun and maybe Cron. Detroit is in rebuild mode. Does it make sense for them to hold onto Miggy? I don't know. I hope not. Most importantly, the point is to get Abreu some much needed protection.

What if the chief actually hired 3 guys to shoot the police officer? And the way they were able to get away is because the chief knew what they would be looking for and when. Pay a couple people off like the nanny to give a false statement...I don't know.

I think the Sox need to get multiple boppers. Longoria, CarGo/Puig. Hell, I'd check in on Detroit to see if they'd be willing to deal Miggy or the Angels with Pujols. Look at Beltre. I need at least 3 proven bats, I need LaRoche gone, I'm willing to deal Q. Definitely let Jeff S go.

QUOTE (shipps @ Sep 3, 2015 -> 03:36 PM) ABC7 said it was a home security camera. What if the sick fks actually knew the household that has the recording. What if they're related? PLOT TWIST

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Aug 10, 2015 -> 10:11 AM) I would have, but not anymore. Sox are going to need Danks next year. RE another comment, I'm not sure I see any value that Laroche has. Dodgers wouldn't be either. They like Ethier again and see him as a leader in the clubhouse. The real problem behind him for the past few years was Mattingly pushing the wrong buttons.

I'd do it. But we need multiple bats. Upton, Longoria, CarGo. Break the bank!!!!