sircaffey

Please pay Walt whatever he wants to come back and fill Walker's shoes...Whatever Walt wants...

Dude, this is some eery s***. Start of the rally crede and Joe hits 2 bombs. I'm starting to get freaked out...I wonder what a rally garland would do. No hitter...Then I would believe in the supernatural...

QUOTE(qwerty @ Sep 20, 2005 -> 05:05 PM) Even before this year garland was more valuable than erstad has been the last several. One of thse trades that we should be happy never went through ( and i am hardly a big garland fan). And others we aren't so happy went through (Ritchie, Koch)...

QUOTE(the People's Champ @ Sep 20, 2005 -> 05:13 PM) Now if he could only find someone to replace Marte, then we wouldn't have any problems I tried to tell him that it is givEth but he don't want to listen You did? Guess I missed that...

I'm not saying he should be fired. I'd give him 1 more year, but some posts seem to convey that he is safe and has "done his job." I believe otherwise...

QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Sep 20, 2005 -> 02:12 PM) By doing absolutely nothing you mean completely changed the dynamic of the team from being focused on winning games by outscoring, to winning games by pitching and defense? Success is not measured by the number of changes a GM makes. Success is measure by the number of rings, playoff games won, playoff series' reached...Show me KW's mantle of success. Empty! 5 years...

Per ESPN.com: "White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen says RHP Orlando Hernandez's turn in the rotation will be skipped Thursday against Minnesota. RHP rookie Brandon McCarthy will start Thursday's home game against the Twins and likely face Johan Santana." Blahhh....

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Sep 20, 2005 -> 02:03 PM) If they do choke completely, somebody should and will be fired. It would be KW before Ozzie, even though Ozzie deserves to be fired more. Also, someone like Walker would be fired. A collapse of that magnitude would positively result in someone losing their job, and it wouldn't just be players. Yep. There will be no way that KW or JR or Ozzie can spin this would-be collapse off and be able to convince the fans that this is the right ship to ride. The only way fans could possibly be attracted back, in my opinion, would be through change. And firing the players is not a viable option...

2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, and the most historic calapse in the history of regular season MLB...A handful of reasons KW hasn't done his job. He won't get fired, but by no means is he safe. He has done absolutely nothing since taking over this job 5 years ago.

QUOTE(S720 @ Sep 20, 2005 -> 01:46 PM) Why bother being here? Go and support the Flubs. I'm sure they would welcome your b****ing and moaning, exactly they've been doing over there! Rah-Rah-Sis-Coom-Ba

Oh what the hell.....

I'm on the outside of the fence hoping to get back inside...

QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 20, 2005 -> 11:32 AM) Does anyone actually believe we'll get into a bidding war for Giles, an aging player when we have some big time prospects in the minors? Highly doubtful. Also, I'm pretty sure that Giles wants to play for the Braves, and that the White Sox were not a team he wanted to get traded to a few seasons ago. I'd guess that the chances the Sox sign either Giles or Furcal is extremely, extremely remote. You are probably right. I'd put a trade for, say, Dunn more likely, if it is even likely at all. However, Giles would be a perfect fit.

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Sep 20, 2005 -> 10:41 AM) - Rowand could be gone, replaced by Anderson. More likely would be Dye being gone in my view and put Anderson in RF. - Marte moved for, well, whatever he could yield. Hopefully more than a one armed man. - Konerko gone via FA. Thomas gone via FA. Everett gone via FA. Rogowski or Gload gets a shot or you go get Tracy or Overbay. - El Duque moved for, well, whatever he could yield, similar to Marte. - If you can move Jose Contreras for a good bat, you do it. Otherwise, you keep him and talk about an extension. - McCarthy goes to the rotation. There are other moves that can be done as well. What FA SP are you going to give an enormous contract to? If Contreras is traded, that is... I'm in favor of keeping Contreras and addressing the offense through either a trade that doesn't involve the rotation or free agency. There will be a mad dash for Washburn, Burnett, and Millwood, and the contracts they get will be absurd...Giles and Mueller...Giles and Mueller!

Oh what I would do to have Mueller and Giles on this team. M-m-good...

In case anyone cares, we are the cover story on ESPN.com, entitled "South Slide."

QUOTE(TheBigHurt @ Sep 20, 2005 -> 09:14 AM) Sircaffey, I was referring to our history with them excluding this year. I have a bad memory, but if any of it serves me correct, The Tribe are a team that's had the Sox's number in the past. Why should we care what last year's or the year before that's team did against the Tribe?

No more beer...

QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 20, 2005 -> 09:03 AM) We had trouble against them? We're we 10-3 against CLE before last night? That doesnt seem like much trouble...

QUOTE(DMoneyIsMine @ Sep 20, 2005 -> 08:57 AM) They ain't the Brewers or the Cubs. Since becoming a franchise, 70% of all the White Sox' seasons have been winning ones, so when you say they have a poor history as a team, you're a moron. They are a perennial good and competitive team. And you should all be proud that the Sox are always good and always enjoyable to follow. How many of those 70% winning seasons actually made the playoffs? What's our playoff percentage? What's our World Series percentage? Abysmal...

QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 20, 2005 -> 08:30 AM) I thought KW had shown a lot of interest in Vazquez in the past? I think and hope the better question is, will KW even still be here at the end of this season?

QUOTE(Y2HH @ Sep 20, 2005 -> 06:22 AM) Guillen put in the right pitchers for the right situations and THEY failed, the pitchers. Jenks failing against Boone is something I never saw happening, and neither did you, to claim you did makes you sound stupid. Boy, if only that were true. Marte our "left handed specialist" faced Hafner and Martinez. If only Hafner wasn't hitting .294 lifetime off Marte and if only Martinez wasn't hitting .364 lifetime off Marte, it would have been the right move. Marte has some kind of dirt on Ozzie. Is Damaso married to Ozzie's sister in law or something?

QUOTE(TheBigHurt @ Sep 20, 2005 -> 08:39 AM) I understand a loss is a loss, but you have to give credit where it's due. FOR a team that's "played like s***," we did well against the hottest team up right now. Not to mention a team whom the Sox have had trouble with(except for earlier this year, WHEN the Sox played much better). Think about it. Credit? This team deserves credit? Why? Because they almost won? That's absurd. At home, against a division rival, in the biggest game of the year...The lost. They deserve no credit. Especially when you couple last night's performance with the whole entire second half.

QUOTE(Harry&JimmyRocked @ Sep 19, 2005 -> 10:08 PM) you're wrong. you give a game away by making errors. you don't give a game away by getting outpitched and outhit. Walks are no different than errors. In fact, they are worse than errors. If you are caught up on errors, well then Marte pitching in this game was an error. E-0zzie....

1. Making the playoffs by default and then getting swept badly or 2. Missing the playoffs and seeing the outrage in the media and at SoxFest Jan 28-30 That's a tough choice....Either should be entertaining at least...