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QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Dec 21, 2016 -> 04:25 PM) Have the Rockies ever been actually linked to Quintana? Nope, but if you want a long shot, we at one point had been discussing Quintana trades including rox trades and bucket said many trade propositions in our thread were close to what was being discussed. Basically a done deal Q to Rockies.

Not me, the last few years of our position players have me dreaming of the days where I thought Jose Valentin was a problem. I miss the swagger he brought to the white sox. He supplied more in person highlights for me than possibly any other sox player (I maybe saw 4 walk offs from him?) But I digress. Jose Valentin for HOF

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Dec 21, 2016 -> 03:57 PM) Yep. Love that Pirates package. Those are all good but that dodgers package blows the rest out of the water.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Dec 21, 2016 -> 03:35 PM) Why so down on Rodgers? Down is relative, those players are all incredible. Rodgers is the lowest because to me he is riskiest. Torres at same level makes me rank him higher because of reports on his superior pitch recognition and plate discipline as well as defensive remarks. I'd be so so so happy to get any of them.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 21, 2016 -> 03:23 PM) "Everything about Starkiller Base makes a lot of sense given how DS 1 and DS 2 went down. You have a much more protected cooling shaft, the weapon is in a planet to prevent Falcons from flying in, plus the shield generator is on that planet and under the shield and it doesn't keep the power in a core, but rather sucks up a star, so it's only vulnerable to a cascade explosion when it's about to fire. But they found a way anyway because the Skywalker family and friends are having none of your bulls***." From Reddit You know, that may be but it really loses its luster when they hand-wave it away to say "There's always a way to blow it up"

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 21, 2016 -> 03:18 PM) It depends on the top player involved. Houston would be #1 if Bregman was involved. They fall down the list if not. If we are getting the top position player prospect from each team? Houston NYY LAD Colorado Pittsburgh I don't see us as much of a match for Texas. Wow I'm shocked you view Meadows that poorly. For me it's Bregman/Meadows/Torres/Bellinger/Rodgers in that order.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Dec 21, 2016 -> 02:26 PM) I heard that Meadows is unavailable, because they still expect to trade McCutchen, and Meadows would be the heir apparent. Where did you hear this?

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 21, 2016 -> 02:16 PM) It's more or less that I have an easier time seeing them balking an including Mazara, whereas the Astros seem to think Q sucks. Less that Q sucks imo than amazing confidence that Martes Musgrove and Tucker are all guaranteed all stars

Nightengale tweeting that Raines is a virtual lock at this point. Congrats RockRaines!

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 21, 2016 -> 02:12 PM) Rank your trade partners: Yankees Pirates Rockies Rangers Astros When you think Rangers what players are you thinking of?

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 21, 2016 -> 02:06 PM) They went from almost trading Cutch to trade the farm for Quintana a window is open? I have no doubt they would love to add Quintana. I have no doubt they have asked about him. What I do doubt is that they are willing to pay the price. They could be "working hard", but how hard is it? This is what it would take, yes or no? Here are some possible catalysts: - There was huge blowback from the McCutchen rumors - The rumor of the deal the Pirates thought they had for Cutch was based around Giolito, who is a dynamic cost controlled arm that could be ready for 2017 ( and someone the Pirates esteemed pitching coach could have been drooling over) - That would have been banking on Meadows being ready and getting them more long term pitching - Quintana satiates the same cost controlled arm while continuing to bet on city favorite mccutchen. It's a bit of shuffling around but that seems more normal to me. This whole "you are either the best team in the league or you should sell everyone" mentality is kinda weird for me to live in. The bucs waited 2 decades to be good, why sell their window short after 3 years?

I don't think we need to worry about our returns not being met yet. The market has slowed considerably from the Winter MEetings, but we haven't even seen a near-end to the free agent class. Look at the players still available! This year with pitching what it is and the farms of winning teams getting better, now is the time and we will get a good offer. Just remember that the teams that are playoff bound WILL continue to add, so some of these prospects may be gone and gone to teams who are rebuilding as well.

I wish the possibility of Meadows wasn't dangled in front of my face as it is now much harder to get off of it.

QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Dec 20, 2016 -> 09:19 PM) Yep, this was easily the best thing to come out of the movie and can finally end the 40 year criticism of why they would ever design it like that. Doesn't it undercut the latest installment though? This was their THIRD attempt, and it was just as easy to destroy.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 21, 2016 -> 01:16 PM) I like that the team site has an article about this rumor, might actually be some legs here. Much better outcome than the rumor being shot down right away (as with Yankees)

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 21, 2016 -> 12:39 PM) That was just one. And even with that, he kept pushing increases in government spending programs, while tamping down on consumer spending. It was idiotic. So curious then what Carter did that was so much worse?

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 21, 2016 -> 12:34 PM) Ford had a bunch of ideas on fixing the economy, virtually all of which made things substantially worse. His idea to kick inflation and a declining economy was to tell people not to spend. I mean.

Any package with meadows is the best in my opinion. It will be hard for any team to make it up in the back end. Yankees including Torres and 3-4 others would only be close. Astros would have a lot to do to make that up.

Ford pardoning Nixon and entering a norm that US executives were essentially above law and any criminal activity would be politicization was among the worst actions of the 20th century. He also did not do anything of note as a president. He did something nice with the Handicapped Children act but his response to rising inflation and a declining economy was largely urging private citizens to solve the problem. He was not good. Carter while dealing with many more foreign problems at least has a litany of sound and good domestic policy achievements that are taken for granted now but not enough to elevate him above the serious matters he could not tackle.

So, I'm reading this right now: http://www.bucsdugout.com/2016/12/21/14037...intana#comments Clearly if we had to make trades with fans the Pirates and Yankees fans >>>> Astros fans.

Astros fans assertion that Martes and Musgrove were already in the bank as being equal to Quintana was unbelievably annoying to read.

That paragraph is talking about Rodon see reference to slider.

http://m.whitesox.mlb.com/news/article/211...fseason-trades/ Really loved this article on John Tumminia (as caulfield often points out the father in law of Ben Cherington) and his work behind scenes prepping for this trade. Should be heartwarming to Soxtalk to note that he was also high on the Nats Severino.

I know I'm putting some sort of cart device ahead of a horse-like animal, but to me Meadows is equal to getting a Bregman/Swanson etc. He needs AAA time, but this is a big time offensive prospect. And I know I'm counting some sort of animal harvesting shell before the animal pops out, but a future of Anderson, Moncada, Meadows, Collins is

Austin Meadows AA slash line .311 .365 .611 .976