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I still have hope for Pace. I don't recall things looking good for Reggie McKenzie his first two years, but then he nailed the next 3 drafts and the first two proved as depth.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Sep 20, 2016 -> 01:03 PM) Do you even read the bulls*** links you post? Hanna, the guy who gave the quotes your article was written about, is not on the committee as you suggest. Seems like you have already edited that out of your post. You must have actually read the article after posting your headline it as the article reads, "Hanna, who is not a member of the committee." He was also the first GOP Congressman to support HRC. No wonder why CNN goes to him for a quote. The article was about what Kevin McCarthy said, McCarthy is the house majority leader of the GOP. He did not get speaker because of the comments that were discussed in the article.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Sep 20, 2016 -> 12:18 PM) Uh oh. Rich Campbell ‏@Rich_Campbell 3m3 minutes ago Bears ILB Danny Trevathan sprained a thumb. It will require surgery. Not season-ending. Rich Campbell ‏@Rich_Campbell 3m3 minutes ago Fox: Bears QB Jay Cutler sprained his right thumb. Does Trevathan throw a ball?

Sure is swirling now that he's out for year.

QUOTE (Brian @ Sep 20, 2016 -> 11:07 AM) No clue if it would of mattered or made Cutler take the next step, but the amount of OC's he's had is insane and would hinder anyone not named Manning or Brady. JMO Probably, but my guess is good QBs also tend to make their OCs look better. Joe Flacco has been in similar boat to Cutler with similar offensive talent and stats, but he also plays 16 games a year until very recently.

I think Cutler WAS an average QB, but he has stayed at the same level while a lot of better QBs have entered league. Like, I guess we'd say Cousins is same level as Cutler, but then Cutler hasn't had a season like this in a decade: 4k yards 29 tds 11 ints You can say he WOULD have last year, but the whole Cutler getting injured for 4-6 games is kinda part of the deal. You'd have to say Cutler is closer to the Ryan Fitzpatrick level than he used to be, through better QBs entering league. QBs I'd still take Cutler over: - Gabbert - Fitzpatrick - Whomever Cleveland's is - Semien - Case Keenum - Bradford Players he may end up better than but they are younger/more valuable Wentz Mariota (to date) Osweiler And Goff may end up better. And Paxton Lynch may end up better. So really we are only drastically better than the Cleveland hell, because the rest have some hope behind them.

Still it feels like a lot of people own guns so I was surprised it was that heavy. I wonder what it looks like for cars.

QUOTE (illinilaw08 @ Sep 20, 2016 -> 10:29 AM) http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/lindsey-g...rica-1786824584 Lindsey Graham is pushing that narrative. It is a scary narrative. The bomber is a US citizen and needs to be tried as a US citizen... Spoke too soon I guess.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 20, 2016 -> 10:16 AM) Fahrenthold with more on Trump's charity scams. Trump used $258,000 from his charity to settle legal problems Oh man. missed this.

Something I was thinking about Re: Chelsea/NJ bombings. There is zero narrative that this man could not be tried in US court system, or that it poses too much risk and he should be moved to GB.

You know, probably doesn't matter. But it seemed like the Royals all came up together as a group through the minors, winning together. That's a philosophy that the Cards use, and Twins as well. Now, our farm system really hasn't been a huge contributor to our roster, but we have a group that I'm really pumped for from this and last years drafts. I'd like to let them play together and win like they did at Great Falls, vs prioritizing personal challenges and putting them on garbage teams all over system. May not matter, may prolong time up, but there are a lot of college talents that we drafted, see if they can learn how to win as a group.

I did the same thing with the bears that I did with the white sox. You only compare them against themselves and you say "oh we are better at ILB, we have more line depth", but it wasn't until the Chiefs preseason game where I realized that there are maybe zero teams in the league that would trade their roster for the bears. This is going to be a rough season and you have to hope floyd, hall, one of our safeties, bullard flash, because otherwise it is going to be a really long time until we are back. Also super bummed, I wonder what would be different if we had hired Jim Bob Cooter over Gase. I believe he was one of the people we had interviewed prior to going with Gase. And speaking of, one of the great and sneaky things about the Gase offense was it prioritized TOP over explosiveness and executed it. Was very important to keeping so many games close last year, it kept defense off the field so our scoring defense was a lot lower than DVOA ranking. Loggains clearly is not capable of that same offense, and instead we are relying on big plays to Jeffery and nothing else.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Sep 20, 2016 -> 07:22 AM) The Eagles really aren't very good though. They just traded 6 picks for their franchise QB which is the cost. If the Bears want a Franchise QB, mortgaging a bunch of picks is what they have to do. Not if they're terrible?

QUOTE (SpankyEaton @ Sep 19, 2016 -> 10:12 PM) Cutler didn't have a good night but he's only responsible for 6 points. The defense gave up the rest. He didn't get any positive momentum going though. I think it's time to just lose, pay him his guaranteed money and cut him after the year. Then draft the QB everyone wants if they can trust the regime to do that. I would rather see them build up the defense though. I've seen plenty of meat headed posts on Facebook about Cutler though. I used to think this but I'm done with it. Is he Jim Miller bad? No. But last year at end I looked and saw all these "bad qbs" with better numbers. That we hope to get 20tds and 10 INTs as a "good" year under him shows how much we are losing. Does he singlehandedly lose us games? No, but you need a QB that wins you them.

Glad we're done with Langford. Love how Howard runs.

Losing Goldman is just brutal. Losing cutler sucks for this year, but most of those players we need to know if they're good. This is three straight years of brutal injuries early on.

NFL sucks.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Sep 19, 2016 -> 04:51 PM) I like both Lawrie and Saladino. It doesn't have to be one or the other as we have roles for both of them to fill in 2017 No kidding. It took both of them to get through the season this year but it won't take 2 next?

QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Sep 19, 2016 -> 04:43 PM) Yet meanwhile Sidney Blumenthal is still a close confidant of Hillarys. http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-g...e102354777.html Obama wouldnt let Hillary hire Blumenthal in the State Department because of his part in spreading the rumors about Obama too. However, because of a FOIA we know Hillary was paying Blumenthal with the Clinton Foundation while he was advising her on policy in Libya. And did Hillary act on this? Can you show me her campaign going around on Twitter claiming it? You don't need to look it up because you no, you can't. You can't show any action, you can only show "doubts". In zero world is actively promoting a lie for years, and riding that wave to power, remotely comparable to having campaign supporters peddling a lie that was never taken up by the head of the campaign or an official action of the campaign. In any other situation, removed from HIllary's name, you would have no problem assessing the situation.

Trump peddling a conspiracy theory that the first sitting Black president was born in Africa doesn't become racist when Hillary says so, it was already racist as he was doing the act of stealing Obama's humanity and "Americanness". Just like it's not calling for a wall, these accusations aren't rhetorical barbs, they are because they are hurting real people.

Did anyone go to Riotfest?

QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Sep 19, 2016 -> 04:34 PM) The difference is that Hillary is the one who tried to bring it back up to label Trump a racist knowing damn well it started with her. She has repeatedly brought it up in this election to attack her opponent all while blatantly lying about her involvement. If Hillary's camp thought it was a racist attack, they may take actions such as firing a staffer who peddled it.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 19, 2016 -> 03:49 PM) But that's part of the complicated s***storm--we don't actually like Assad's regime and have been actively trying to undermine it for years now. Whatever the US is doing in Syria, playing nice with Assad isn't really in the cards in the long-run. They're trying to back anti-Assad, anti-Isis forces. Russia's doing just the opposite for their own reasons, as are the Turks. When the Russians started their campaign in Syria, they were frequently bombing anti-Assad rebels rather than ISIS. Turkey's launched attacks against Kurdish groups. The "unforeseen consequences of entering conflict are almost always worse than the known consequences of inaction" was my philosophy for a while but nothing has challenged it more than Syria. I read the sleepwalkers a year ago, about WW1. It was great, but with distance you sit there incredulous like "they are going bonkers over Serbia?". But it's really hard to just look at a country like syria that has the possibilities of a) Having a gigantic massacre and then brutal dictatorship installed by Assad b) Toppling assad and having a vacuum of nihilistic terror groups get territory holds c) Basically force some questionably moderate group of rebels into power despite no powerbase d) Just hope that a ceasefire lasts and see what is possible politically D is only possible by showing A that he can't win easily. And I think D may be right, but for US, it's hard to see how A is that consequential except for morally. I have no idea.

QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Sep 19, 2016 -> 03:36 PM) Sorry, I didnt take the bait on your sad analogy. Sorry, right, though we could easily identify the short logic if we were dealing with children, but it's somehow valid when dealing with adults is ridiculous. If you think "she did it first" is so damning when 1) She didn't do it first 2) The staffer that did peddle it was fired 3) She has not made her career blasting the president for being born elsehwere when he has proven he's born in US What else do you think may be irrational as damning?

QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Sep 19, 2016 -> 04:00 PM) If you would have read my post I provided proof she committed crimes. Justin Cooper testified that he, Huma and Celsea all had access to the server with classified info. Also, there is no disputing she destroyed evidence that was under a preservation order and a subpoena. Her husband got impeached for lying about a blowjob. There is actually disputing this. The FBI report covers this extensively.