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QUOTE (WHarris1 @ Jan 7, 2013 -> 10:16 PM) Yes this is also very likely but also the information could still very easily be true given how easily such accusations can be suppressed in this town. I'm not saying it isn't true, just that when you have a bunch of people telling you the stories of the town, rumors will be a part of it. This place doesn't seem like it's that big on reporting.

QUOTE (WHarris1 @ Jan 7, 2013 -> 11:11 PM) I'm assuming they are recent findings by this hacker group 'Anonymous' that just came out and haven't been explored. I'm sure there's concerns with the legality of evidence obtained by this group also but to answer your question I really don't know. I do trust the information provided from that group though as they hacked and released the entire e-mail cache of the dude who runs the team fan site and what not and uncovered deleted tweets, instagram photos and whatever else. Will be interesting to see how it all plays out from a town wide perspective given the allegations at hand. I'm also guessing this group is also publishing hearsay as fact.

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Jan 7, 2013 -> 11:08 PM) Seriously, can't some organization from outside look into and do something? Because trusting the local authorities in this is absurd. I heard that the girl was taken over state lines. Couldn't that make it eligible for the Feds?

QUOTE (WHarris1 @ Jan 7, 2013 -> 11:01 PM) The mother f***ing loser in that 12 minutes video is "no longer a student at the Ohio State University" as of today. Good. If I was in college, knowing that kid was there, I would have my student judiciary that I feel like could have pushed expulsion for these things. He is a danger to the student body.

QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Jan 7, 2013 -> 08:47 PM) Are you f***ing kidding me? Things you've brought into this thread: guns aren't the problem, black people are the problem we should ban gay sex because of aids as an analogy, right after claiming seat belt laws were getting off-topic

I second at least closing this thread.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jan 7, 2013 -> 06:45 PM) I don't see why Mary being a c*** needed to be blacked out - she's such a b****. Thankfully, she's finally married. And yes, Tom is awesome. His drunken rant was crazy, though, and I'm glad the cripple saw that he was drugged. I wonder how long we'll have to wait until Matthew decides to in fact save Downton? I hope that Matthew doesn't. How absurd for that family to keep their way of life by falling ass backwards into inheritances over and over. This series should make everyone love America.

QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Jan 7, 2013 -> 05:17 PM) Honestly, I'm not going to get into this talking about what weapons are suitable for home defense when I'm dealing with people who use words like "clips" and "assault rifles" over, and over, and over, and over. Oh please don't threaten to leave the thread!

I like how Downtown doesn't try to paint their characters as complete heroes. It does bring in characters to highlight how silly it is that they hold themselves in such high esteem, yet have done nothing to earn their money and seem to be quite terrible at maintaining it. That said, I hope they can keep Tom around for more. He's a good actor.

I think ND will hang in there. The Alabama of the 2nd half was much less dominant than the one blowing the s*** out of teams early in the season. However, Saban does tend to do well with long off-periods. That said, I think as it stands today, the team I'm confident could beat any other team on a neutral site is definitely Texas A&M. Great season for them and they just kept getting stronger.

It's a great idea to base all of your judgment on a very small sample size.

A large part of the problem was the Bears did Cutler no favors during that game. They didn't say what happened, and called him questionable to return. They basically threw him to the dogs.

I watched the first few minutes of that yesterday. I don't even know if this is better or worse but at least was comforted that some of those kids at the party knew it was rape and went to go help. Meanwhile the other kid just laughs hysterically about how they killed and raped a girl.

Good god.

Bills hire Syracuse HC according to Schefter. If lovie doesn't find a job and Andy Reid gets to be a whole organization, I feel like something is wrong.

QUOTE (SOXOBAMA @ Jan 6, 2013 -> 03:11 AM) Bring on the Packers! I can't wait to go to the game next sat As glad as I am we are getting a new coach, bears would have made better playoff showing. Boom #boldunknowablepredictiom

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 09:16 PM) The only one I don't like I guess is over. I think this could be a 17-14 kind of game. Not sure how much either team is going to move the ball. Good luck! Agreed, but you never know, could end up being like 5 defensive touchdowns.

I wish I understood betting, but good luck!

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 08:12 PM) If we are going to send money directly to Americans, I wish we would come up with a way to actually get something to show for it, if at all possible. Something like a new WPA program that paid more than simply being on welfare, unemployment etc, and use that to do infrastructure work around the country would fit the bill. There is plenty that needs to be done, there are plenty of things that need to be done, and there are plenty of people who currently have a disincentive to look for work unless it pays significantly more than what they are making. And anything they'd do would be considered pork and greasy politics by among other people, yourself.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 08:05 PM) Fans know far more about football than Terry Bradshaw or Boomer Esiason. Especially about what it takes to play QB. Nobody could question Joe Morgan or Tim McCarver

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 07:54 PM) Boomer isn't a Bears fan. Cutler gets ripped on the national shows. Bradshaw tore him a new one. Bears fans always have excuses for him. I was watching a show yesterday where one NFL "insider" said Cutler makes the Bears job the most attractive and the least attractive of all the openings, depending on the candidate, and the Bears can't hire a guy just based on his getting along with Jay because he might be gone in a year. National shows ripping Cutler? They must be right! What do they say about Tebow? Aren't the cowboys amazing?

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 06:47 PM) You can have a spending limit with emergency rules that kick in under certain circumstances, preventing spending of money over budgets. The problem is we don't have a budget, or a limit of any kind. I bring in a certain amount of money per month...so I can only spend a certain amount per month. I don't think it's too much to ask the government be responsible and do the same under ordinary circumstances. Had they done that in 2008-2012 it would have been devastating and undoubtedly would have led to the great depression part II. Is putting 20% of your work force out of work responsible when it could be avoided? The government is not a household. It's not an analogy that should be a part of the discussion.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 07:27 PM) The problem is the debt ceiling isn't the spending ceiling. People often confuse the two. The debt ceiling is allowing the government to borrow the money they *ALREADY* spent. If they don't, the default on those loans...and the people they borrowed from get f***ed because now they'll never get the full amount borrowed. If they were talking about setting a spending limit, it would/could actually do something positive. But the "debt ceiling" as it is now, does no such thing. I disagree on the spending limit but three cheers for the post nonetheless!

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 06:17 PM) The Tampa offense did have some moments this season...for about a 5-6 game stretch they were on quite a roll... Maybe zenryan knows a bit more about him...I know he is a Bucs fan. Yeah, I know, but to be OC for just 1 year, seems a little brash. I know he'd had a lot of experience with the giants, and I think that bodes well.

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 06:08 PM) @MikeGarafolo Sounds like Mike Sullivan and the Bears had a very good meeting the other day. Went six hours, about twice as long as expected. I won't put too much into this, but...not a fan.