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2007 - BABIP .278, MLB Rank: 30th; 21.1% K Rate, MLB Rank: 23th 2008 - BABIP .281, MLB Rank: 29th; 18.3% K Rate, MLB Rank: 11th 2009 - BABIP .285, MLB Rank: 28th; 18.7% K Rate, MLB Rank: 7th 2010 - BABIP .292, MLB Rank: 23rd; 16.8% K Rate, MLB Rank: 2nd 2011 - BABIP .257, MLB Rank: 30th; 16.8% K Rate, MLB Rank: 2nd Composite Totals 2007 - 2011: BABIP .283, MLB Rank: 30th; 18.6% K Rate, MLB Rank: 9th

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 4, 2011 -> 05:43 PM) I think its a very good method - because I think part of the problem with Sox hitters last year was sphincter factor. Dunn in particular needs to take fewer marginal pitches. And the quote was nowhere near accurate. Come on, didn't you study journalism? How can you say that this: "Manto doesn't like walks because it sets up double plays" is the same as this... "Do we want adam dunn taking a ball off the plate with a man on third and justin verlander pitching?" "why wouldn't you want that" "It sets up a double play, he can drive that run in...it's not going to be a high scoring play anyway" They are not the same at all, because one is highly situational - which by the way was one of the major gripes people had with Sox hitters in recent years, was not hitting situationally. The first quote is utterly false, the second one is what Manto thinks of a certain situation. Saying those quotes are the same as me saying "I don't like beer because it gets me drunk" is the same as "once I've had a couple beers and I'm driving home, I don't want to have another beer because I might be too intoxicated to drive". They are not the same, at all. Most of the sox problems are not getting on base and swinging at s***ty pitches. I'll give you 2 scenarios, 1 where the team only swings at good pitches, the other where they swing at bulls*** depending on a million different scenarios. Which do you think would do better? And as for your second crap, STREEEEEEEETTTCCCHHHH

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 4, 2011 -> 06:29 PM) So of course, the earlier story that Manto doesn't like walks because they set up a double play was nowhere near what was actually said. I'm shocked. I actually agree with this quote anyway. Guy on third with less than two outs, I want people swinging the bat too, if it is a hittable pitch. but that's a terrible teaching method. And that quote that he doesn't like walks because it sets up double plays was quite accurate.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Nov 4, 2011 -> 05:38 PM) Oh man, I thought Community was the best it's been since season 1 last night. I loved it. Parks & Rec. That show is so f***ing good. I did NOT watch The Office for the 2nd consecutive week and feel really good about that. We watched 10 minutes then i had to stop.

Some quotes (I may be off) "We're going to swing until it's not a ball" srry: we're going to swing until it's a ball? i don't know about this quote, couldn't hear. "Any statistics we bring up are a by product of a good at bat" "Do we want adam dunn taking a ball off the plate with a man on third and justin verlander pitching?" "why wouldn't you want that" "It sets up a double play, he can drive that run in...it's not going to be a high scoring play anyway" seems like this is over...but yeah..........sigh

My friend from Cleveland won't watch Hottub time machine, not because it's awful, but because it's too painful to see the alternative history of the browns game.

It was awful because the players were also exhausted playing so many games back to back to back.

Oh I definitely upgraded from "Boy, this sucks laying pipes and connecting water to suburbia" to "man it's fun killing people with vikings".

I found sim city incredibly boring as a kid. Who wants to lay down infrastructure for 4 hours?

So they kick the can down the road, hoping that growth will catch up...sounds familiar.

So what? You'd prefer the shockwave here, eh? Well you can tell the unemployed here what a better deal it was for the Greeks.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 3, 2011 -> 03:29 PM) Fortunately for Greece, Europe and everyone else, Greece has decided not to have the referendum after all. And the opposition party agrees. So, looks like Greece will take the deal. I can't tell if this was just incredibly shrewd by the Greece PM or just dumb luck. But I'm glad it worked out.

Franklin also wrangled French support.

Goldline is different than investing in Gold. http://www.goldline.com/testimonials-glenn-beck

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Nov 3, 2011 -> 01:22 PM) The Eagles spread has always seemed high this season. I think people believe in the "Dream Team" hype and always bet them, so they have to move the spread in their favor. They were like 3 or 4 point favorites at Buffalo, when it was obvious which team was playing better. Of course the Bills won. plus vegas hates the bears.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Nov 2, 2011 -> 10:25 PM) So Jeff Manto's silly little stat -- (R+RBI-HR)/G -- tweaked to account for the fact that a HR earns you both a run and an RBI as opposed to just one or the other -- (R+RBI-(HR*2))/G -- when calculated for last year's team looks something like this: 0.815 De Aza 0.797 Pierre 0.766 Ramirez 0.752 Konerko 0.695 Quentin 0.566 Rios 0.560 Beckham 0.543 Pierzynski 0.517 Viciedo 0.516 Morel 0.500 Flowers 0.459 Dunn 0.448 Vizquel 0.423 Lillibridge 0.314 Teahen Now, what have we learned? Absolutely nothing. We've learned what the batting order was last year. And that Dunn was awful.

I found the len bias one very disappointing, but the 2 Escobars was unreal good. I'm excited for this one.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Nov 2, 2011 -> 07:16 PM) unless something drastically changes I am willing to admit I was very wrong on Carcillo. I guess Q and Bowman were able to squeeze only the good stuff out of him so far. You know, all my friends from philly said that we would end up loving him.

Ginn was drafted that high because of devin hester.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Nov 2, 2011 -> 05:37 PM) Raines protected everyone. Except hiimself

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Nov 2, 2011 -> 03:26 AM) It's nice to finally be on the receiving end of one of those Gold Gloves for life thing. haha

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Nov 1, 2011 -> 09:38 PM) Oh god. Dude, really? The value of the walk is not JUST getting on base, it's having the plate discipline to only swing at good pitches. You want a case study on this? Watch 35 yo Paul Konerko hit. Bat speed diminished, and it doesn't matter because he never swings at anything except the pitch he wants to hit. The only time he ever even swings at a breaking ball is when it hangs or when it fools him. The idea behind the 'Moneyball' approach is to not make stupid outs by swinging at bad pitches just because you're Jason Bay and there's a man on third. Guess what? I'll take a walk over a broken bad drippler or a K in absolutely every situation. If you show you're willing to take your base, the pitcher has no choice but to throw you strikes, and THAT's when guys mash. Why do all the elite hitters have high OBPs? Because they know which pitches to swing at and aren't afraid to let the pitcher put them on if they won't throw it. This in turn forces the pitcher to put on down Main Street when he gets behind in the count. If you get aggressive because of the situation, the pitcher can just throw you sliders and let you get yourself out. I'm sick of the BS Ozzie Guillen-style ego-ball. Yeah, let's tell Adam Dunn to swing at MORE bad pitches because he's a 'run producer.' The reason he sucked last year was because he couldn't even hit GOOD pitches. His plate discipline is what made him awesome and preserving it is his only hope at bouncing back. This was feisty. I liked it.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 1, 2011 -> 09:15 PM) Also, this latest Greece episode is laughable. The Euro zone decides to give Greece a whole bunch of money, and cut their debt in half, in exchange for further austerity and tax measures. Greek leadership says OK. Then Greek President goes on TV and says he wants to put it to a vote with his people. Oops. Greece may decide to vote itself into financial oblivion. It would be laughable if it didn't affect more than greece.

I don't know, seems like a convoluted message. Do we want them to be so aggressive they'll swing at a bad pitch instead of getting on the base paths and prolonging the inning?

so he's a mathematician?