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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 2, 2011 -> 08:36 PM) bmags, I used to be the guy saying exactly what you're saying. Now we're at our 2nd budget cut debacle in the past what, 4 months? And whether we like it or not, there'll be another one with another shutdown deadline in September. Yes, the PPACA was good policy, and the Dodd Frank act as written was at least decent policy, and there are other victories (lilly ledbedder, etc.) But how much of that matters if it gets rolled back in the next deal? How much does a health care coverage expansion matter if 12 months later you get rolled to the point that you're taking on significant health care coverage cuts? How much does extending one type of protection gain if simultaneously you're doing things like dramatically slashing student loans? Maybe I'll be back saying what you're saying again once there's a Republican nominee...but this budget debacle really has me down. Liberals brought this on themselves by not doing s*** for the 2010 election. None of this would be happening if there was a good economy. But there's a s***ty economy, and when there's a s***ty economy then people start to want to protect their jobs and start fearing losing their status. Good on dems for not becoming protectionist. It ruined the platform for immigration reform. But liberals do nothing to explain why immigration is a good thing. That's counterintuitive to people, so they just fall back on complaining and b****ing when laws are enacted to tighten it. You guys just think someone going in swinging a big dick can get things done right now. But with a s***ty economy, 100% debt and an opposition party acting like a parliamentary opposition party in a system not set up to deal with that, nothing gets done. But, liberals, who blame environment and structure for everything except politics, just sit and whine and pout when daddy doesn't fix everything.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 2, 2011 -> 08:37 PM) It worked for the Republicans after winning one house of Congress in one election. Eight months later and we've got serious entitlement cuts on the table and a mandated vote on a balanced budget amendment. I've never advocated not voting, though. I've simply advocated against voting for politicians like Obama. That's because they continue to raise hell and their members know they will be primaried if they dont' vote their way. The left never does this. They vote someone in, sit and wait, then when they don't vote like they want, they just don't show up and he loses.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 2, 2011 -> 08:34 PM) No, I'm saying it wouldn't have been all that much different because no one in Washington really represents progressives, liberals or leftists. You know why? Because the democratic base considers themselves moderate. And moderates love compromise. And in a system that favors smaller populations instead of larger more liberal ones you need moderate-conservative dems to make a majority. And they will be needed to vote. So, either fight to change the structure, or put pressure on the moderate candidates by running a candidate to their left (see: lincoln, ark.). It works remarkably well, but also requires work to be done, soooo...better just let the tea party take over.

Congrats. I'll give you a high five if it isn't federally outlawed for being to homosexual and satanist.

Enjoy it at the federal level. And as always, don't put any effort into actually running primaries against candidates to get them to move left, just don't vote. Hand elections to the republicans, because then in 8 years when things go to hell, we can get our act together againa nd get a big majority, and then stop caring and become disillusioned when we don't get everything we want in 1 election. And continue to let everything we care about get axed away in huge chunks because we have principles to only get everything we want and nothing less.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 2, 2011 -> 09:08 PM) Kinda easy to become disaffected when two years of supermajorities and the white house and another 8 months of strong Senate majorities and the white house results in a huge policy shift to the right. Politics is hard work, you don't win it with one election. Democrats got a lot passed during that time they just didn't get everything passed during that time. They'd have gotten a lot more passed during that time if their base decided to still care about what happened after the 2008 election and didn't mail in their responsibilities while the older conservative base wrote letters and raised hell. But, you all seem to think the past 4 years would have been the same with a republican. I just want you to realize all the social reforms that you forget about when you have the majority will come roaring back. And enjoy getting an even more conservative court. And enjoy archaic reproductive right fights coming back. Enjoy all that, seriously.

I admire conservatives a lot more. When conservatives got their asses handed to them they started working harder, running primaries against candidates they didn't like and then are putting together a really nice coalition. Liberals work hard for 1 election then just sit and watch, then cry and whine whent he other side didn't roll over and just become apathetic.

classic liberal handwringing.

Poll Tests! Everyone should be able to vote. I know this board doesn't think poor people should be allowed to vote without severe restrictions, but just because they have low access to information doesn't mean they shouldn't be allowed to vote.

That's absurd!

how many pages was the debt compromise?

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 1, 2011 -> 09:35 PM) Too bad they didn't announce Frank as the new hitting coach during the ceremony. I still don't think Frank would be a good coach. He wasn't really a people person.

in other words, white sox baseball.

what's the post-school grace period?

i'm not downloading that.

It's just a way different dynamic in the Republican party. In the democratic party, nobody has more power than Sens. Nelson and Landrau, and the blue dogs in the house. Since no republican will vote for a democratic bill, the moderate dems run the day. The republican party has the opposite problem. Their moderates are more a danger to them in breaking with them and voting dem, but they will pretty assuredly vote republican. Dennis Kucinich voted against the health care bill for it being too moderate, you pretty much have a bunch of him in the republican party so they are a solid voting bloc that has a lot of negotiating power.

That said, i personally like having a separate ipod for entertaining. It's ridiculous when someone uses their phone for a playlist. NERD.

Amount of power dennis kucinich has in the democratic party:

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 28, 2011 -> 08:13 PM) I'm always amazed at how many people on this site are friends with actual MLB players.

I must have missed the part where the president is suggesting only raising revenue.

halladay.

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 05:55 PM) DeAngelo Williams just got 21 million guaranteed. He is 28. Ugh. best lockout ever!

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 06:41 PM) He gets benched. So they are going to sit Mr. Salary for a hungry kid. Maybe their plan is to suspend Rios if he acts up. Can you suspend a guy and not pay him if he becomes a detriment on the bench? No free agent would ever come to the white sox ever again.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 07:04 PM) Its a terrible package in theory, unless Rasmus just falls off the earth somehow. It does seem odd that no other offer was better than what they received though. Why is that? Because they have a terrible GM? Seems to me that word leaked out pretty early that they were looking for a pretty reasonable package.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 06:59 PM) Kevin Goldstein. http://twitter.com/#!/Kevin_Goldstein And it was one thread on a s*** Cards board thats not even populated. Its not a good deal for them, but you still cherry picked the posts that proves your point of hating KW and the Sox. And still you wont follow up on your statement to take a break from the Sox and this board. All talk no action. You love to be as miserable as possible. I went to school in missouri. None of my friends are happy. Regardless of whether they "liked" him, absolutely all of them would rather have kept him than received this package.