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I will. Feel great when a bunch of old people die because your candidate wasn't perfect.

not compromising your beliefs does not mean you cut off your nose to spite your face. You can either be productive, or a petulant child. But when president Palin rolls into office and starts passing archaic s***, defunds health care and education, and anything remotely progressive just because it's progressive, I don't want to see you complain one f***ing time. Because you put her there.

The dixiecrats did bolt, and while i'm damn glad they aren't a part of the democratic party, the switch from democrat to republican in the south led a dominant conservative run in american politics. IF you think the democrats didn't do enough to go forward, I hope you are comfortable with a huge roll back. The republicans are deadset on repealing medicare, and the liberals start an open revolt on the democrats? Give me a break. You guys are whiners, incredibly shortsighted, and incredibly wreckless.

it worked in november!

I've never gotten a cramp in my groin before.

Much like every year, prior to the season I think man this team is good. Then we play and I think man this team is bad.

Man we are terrible. Ruin the summer f***ing terrible.

Foster better be watched closely this game

QUOTE (lostfan @ Apr 22, 2011 -> 11:26 PM) My theory: the smarter a person is the easier it is to rationalize something they believe. Balta and 2k5 for example, both obviously not dummies, hardly ever agree about anything or see anything the same way. But both are totally convinced they're right and the other is totally wrong, and when they see something that goes against what they believe or challenges their assumptions they have an explanation for why that is. I'd bet that if you really scaled most of the people in here on how they felt about things from 2003 to 2011 there'd be quite a few policies they feel differently about, and it's affected by debates on this board.

Cool, lets squash it then. I apologize for prolonging Hudson or Ejack pt ii ORL-ATL tonight, who you guys got.

It's very expensive and I doubt it's efficacy is that good. I have heard good things about livemocha? Not sure it's on the same level but it does offer some more interaction from what I hear.

QUOTE (Felix @ Apr 22, 2011 -> 10:25 PM) Jesus christ, are you kidding me? My post wasn't baiting anyone to continue the stupid argument. It was an effort to get this thread back on track, as opposed to having the same pointless argument for the next 20 pages like we've had over the last few weeks. "None of the Rose crowd is going to be convinced by statistical arguments, and none of the Paul crowd gives a s*** how little the Rose crowd cares for stats. We get it, you hate them and think they mean nothing. We disagree, big f***ing deal." This is a total "waaa we are better but please lets end this waaaa" argument.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Apr 22, 2011 -> 10:19 PM) It's different in the playoffs when you're facing elite front lines though. Boozer is only, what, 6'7"? He has decent post moves but it's not like he's much of a ballhandler or anything that'd mitigate the height disadvantage when he gets trapped under a 7 footer. I was expecting him to take over once hibbard left, he didn't. He needs to back people up more, especially hansbrough when that's who is guarding him.

QUOTE (kjshoe04 @ Apr 22, 2011 -> 08:52 PM) Mo Williams>Chris Paul. hey, it's not the be-all end-all. But under three minutes rose is even crazier. But i've watched enough basketball in my life to know that the last 5 min in basketball are different, and especially surviving the oughts with the bulls team we had, to have someone who is going to take that shot, take the drive and get fouled and MAKE it, is really important. But getting rose to shoot was an evolution. Who knows what kind of player he'll end up as.

why i'll take rose http://www.82games.com/1011/CSORT11.HTM That and Rose's iso success and driving ability are special to his position. And frankly are the reason why i think he's one of those rare pg's that will lead his team to the championship as the main scoring threat.

QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Apr 22, 2011 -> 08:17 PM) And I better not hear another "Rose shoots because he has to." That's what you guys wanted when you said "Get rid of Gordon, Rose needs to be able to shoot at all times. Gordon is a chucker." Like most of you guys know what a chucker is. Pretty sure we didn't want to pay gordon the absurd cash he got to be a sixth man, when he thought he should be a starter. I'm not arguing that Paul isn't better on f***ing PER, but you would be fired on the spot if you were a GM and traded rose straight up for Paul, an older player with a knee injury under his belt that took him an incredibly long time to recover from. End of story.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Apr 22, 2011 -> 07:58 PM) NBA reviewing Jeff Foster hits That hit was "bad" but the Deng hit was embarrassing. He should be fined for that one. That Rose hit I somewhat come to expect.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Apr 22, 2011 -> 07:55 PM) Have you read through this thread? Yes. But I don't read selectively.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Apr 22, 2011 -> 07:51 PM) Basically, Rose is not super efficient because, well, he's just not super efficient. That doesn't mean he cant be. He's 22. But stop making excuses. Welcome to what everyone else is saying, now stop shooting for self satisfaction in your quest to pat yourself on the back because you are such a f***ing "realist".

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Apr 22, 2011 -> 07:43 PM) I dont think Nash is as good of a player as Lebron or Wade, what else is there to say? I think Lebron may be one of the top 3 players in the history of basketball when its all said and done, Rose isnt 1 or 2, so why would I argue that Rose is better than Lebron? That would be stupid, last I checked Im not stupid. Wade (imo) was better than Rose, but Im not sure if Id take Wade today over Rose, so once again Im not sure what other year stats have to do with today. Once again, Im talking about Rose being MVP this year. I have no idea what you are arguing about. Basically. Who in their right mind would want to rely on wade for a full season or full playoff run?

I really like my iphone, the familiarity was a big reason for it. I knew where everything was and what it would do before even playing around with it. If you use apple it's a big advantage, imo.

BTW IT HASN'T BEEN MENTIONED YET Good god this playoffs have been so much easier to watch with an ACTUAL coach instead of vinny del negro. Things Vinny would not have done, given rose that 3 minutes of rest with 7 minutes left in the 4th in game 1, after which he came back and started the 16-1 run.

clearly the wsj has not seen atlas shrugged.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Apr 22, 2011 -> 04:20 PM) Thank you, there is such a disconnect among some posters. I like how it's Rose homerism. HE. IS. GOING. TO. WIN. MVP. There is no homerism. It's f***ing realism. He's unreal, and I'd be posting that if he were on the Golden State Warriors. I just happen to be lucky enough that the NBA MVP, 22 years old no less, is on my team. Did some fail to receive the memorandum? There are a lot of really great players in the NBA right now. And I love the Chris Paul is back, it's ridiculous to leave out his injury history and evaluate him based off of fisher guarding him. BUt as a fan, intangibles do matter. Lebron can never be the best player in the nba after last summer. I don't give a s*** if he technically is pound for pound unreal. If he decided to take the pounding Drose takes and use his inside game he would be even better, but he doesn't try to achieve himself at his greatest, Rose does. And that s*** really does matter. CP3 I love but really until I see him back to full speed for a full season he's just not in the discussion. This team really needed a go-to guy and rose has given them that and then some. I'm not worried about losing games late b/c of waiting for ben gordon to hit a fall away three pointer anymore. I'm very grateful.

I find it funny how b****y the indiana fans are about the foul calls. The pacers aren't just fouling, they are fouling really effing hard.