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the lede in this article gave me a chuckle (from front page of wsj): http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1207183159...=hpp_us_pageone

QUOTE(mr_genius @ Apr 3, 2008 -> 01:14 AM) screw it, just end all forms of expression, because anything can be seen as offensive in the hyper political correctness age. have our public schools like in those weird science fiction works where everyone is exactly same. no one ever questions authority. yes sir. no sir. right away sir. Complete political correctness bliss. ahhhhh Well, we have it gets sticky. Unlike the Tinker case, since this is occurring in a class that promotes art, and therefore could fall under that they are promoting the art the students are producing. Tinker states that schools have to tolerate acts of speech and expression, not promote them. So anything that happens during a class, students don't have much free speech. Me personally, I disagree. however, in the case it happened, I agree with the ruling, just not the standard it set up. Some states grant students more freedom of speech, not Missouri, however, I'm pretty sure this state has created most of the educational standards by the Supreme Court.

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Apr 2, 2008 -> 03:08 PM) If I believed in Hell I'd be certain John Yoo already has a spot set aside there for him. I cannot believe that Berkeley Law School gave this war criminal a job. or Feith at Georgetown.

OK, who is ready to see the Vanity Fair piece? Also, there is a second memo by Yoo I guess, they found in footnotes of the first. They are now trying to declassify that. Unreal.

damn it. Will we ever win a game? 2 games behind the Royals.

Why are you an angry black Muslim *cough*terrorist*cough*...excuse me...? So we all know you were named after Saddam Hussein, your parents idols, and um, well lets see, what's your favorite color? black or red?

QUOTE(lostfan @ Apr 1, 2008 -> 10:46 PM) I was actually going to make a post similar to this one, but this was actually before I read the exact quote you just posted... how Cheney comes across in the interview depends a lot on how the reporter quotes him. You can selectively quote that and make it look like he said something terrible and ungrateful. that was an email though from "John Kerry". Not a reporter.

saw this. Am excited!

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Apr 2, 2008 -> 08:39 PM) Chris Matthews wonders whether or not Obama can woo regular people. By his definition, African Americans and people with advanced degrees are excluded from the phrase "Regular people". I can't stand that s***. The talking about how college educated vote isn't worth as much to a candidate. Alexander hamilton would probably agree too. Woo elitists.

Clinton is not down 1%, she's down 3%.

I hated arkush. Love Thayer.

my excitement to hurt level is pretty large.

I'm only reading surveyUSA at this point.

i refuse to sign up for those text messages until they guarantee me they won't sell my number to ad agencies.

anderson in center, cabrera in ss and uribe at 2b is really strong up the middle.

QUOTE(lostfan @ Mar 31, 2008 -> 02:16 PM) Every time Obama mentions McCain's name he speaks of him with great respect, he says "genuine American hero" almost every time he brings his name up, but he sharply disagrees with him on the issues and happily criticizes them. His tone is more like "bring it" than scorn, although he does crack a few jokes here and then. McCain seems to be running a pretty clean campaign and I expect it'll stay that way on his end. Any nastiness or below-the-belt nonsense I'd expect to come from the rank-and-file conservatives, but not McCain's people. At least if there is, there'll be accountability. Although, I found this funny. The youtube ad that had Obama with wright, in arab garb and all that garbage that came out last week, McCain quickly denounced it. So what's the story? McCain, continuing to be above the political fray, condemns his own followers for not playing it safe. And what's the consequence? Well, the major tv outlets all play that ad over and over again, the one he condemns. So, he gets doubly good, one, he appears to be the good guy, and two, a commercial making Obama an angry arab black man gets shown ad nauseum. Damn the Republicans are good.

I just wanted to say how happy I was in the seventh, going against rafael perez? who is sick against us, and he was giving us tough pitches away and paulie and Dye went the oppo. field with them. It made my heard pump faster than normal.

QUOTE(Alpha Dog @ Mar 31, 2008 -> 11:23 PM) You can't choose your grandfather, unless you are from Kentucky or Alabama and do alot of inbreeding, but you can choose your pastor. Big difference. I understand your point, but still a big difference. I can choose to hold him close to this day and continue to learn from him. I'm a young man, alpha dog, I see your point, but I can only relate things to my limited experiences. My mentors at this point are pretty much all related to me. Just sharing why this did not affect me the way it affected others. I completely understand someone who has worked, fought, loved, been devoted to this country being appalled at someone saying "God Damn America", such language we've seen from a radical cleric in the Middle East this decade, but not from home, let alone a close friend to a presidential candidate. But I don't see it defining the man or his what his actions would be as president. Not in my eyes.

I read it. I dislike the very colloquial "take it from the f***ing man" tone of Rolling stone authors. I was hoping of more of a long term, thorough book. Because, I'd like to know even more. The story where that one contracting firm took the army's own trucks, painted them a different color, then sold them back to them was disgusting.

QUOTE(lostfan @ Mar 31, 2008 -> 11:03 PM) On the old Fans GB81 actually posted a pretty long one last summer. from Rolling stone.

QUOTE(DrunkBomber @ Mar 31, 2008 -> 11:00 PM) Well considering thats where this conversation is taking place I would say its a little more reasonable to try and follow it here than for me to worry about what Facebook groups think about. Thanks again for important insight and continuing effort in keeping the discussion on track. Im glad now I know what Im up against so from now on if I want your opinion I will flip on MTV or Oprah A forum is a forum is a forum. People are discussing this issue are relevant to debates on how people have discussed this issue, how the media has covered people discussing this issue. And with the way this thread has turned, a facebook group might even be more civil. Yas on his high horse saying he was called a racist when NSSox merely said that he was looking for a reason to hate Obama no matter what because of his politics. Yas was also looking for us to call him a racist, in my opinion, as you say, so he could categorize us with the image in his head of the crazy liberals who love everyone who hates america and label everyone racists for saying anything. In my opinion. But no one has called anyone a racist for thinking Wright is a racist. Then CC comes and says "watermelon soaked nose". Now tell me, which side on this issue has become more hard-headed. I'll give my complete thought now on why I don't care about Obama going to the Church that had Rev. Wright. I know my Grandfather for teaching me so many things about life. Hard work, love, humility, gratitude. I've also known him to say some things that disgust me, all dealing with political or social issues. Words of hate. Do I think my grandfather is a hate-filled man, no, and he's important to me, and he's taught me so much. But just because he's said those words, does not mean that I believe them. How many times has a political sermon in the church affected the way you live? feel? The ones I've been to are so lightning in a bottle, they don't live on, they are too current event and usually much like a pundit on TV. But the ones on faith and how to live, those can help define and form a person. So I don't give a damn about Bush close with Robertson, Graham close with the many presidents, Hagee with McCain or Wright with Obama. (To reclarify, I don't care about Hagee with McCain, I don't believe McCain is an anti-semite b/c he's with McCain, but I did get frustrated when McCain got a free pass for Hagee when Obama was getting hit with Wright). When these men (and whoever Hillary's involved in) would hypothetically go to these men for advice, I have no doubt in my mind they are looking for spiritual or personal advice, not political. Pt. II to come later.

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Mar 27, 2008 -> 04:04 PM) This story makes me angry. How does this happen??? NY Times has had a pretty awful couple of years but props on getting this story. I wish someone would write a huge collective story on the contract mess that, for me, has defined Iraq.

it's not racist but I was laughing hysterically when I saw it. Lou Dobbs is such a joke, he's found his niche and is exploiting it for all it's worth. Disgusting TV "journalism".

nvm.

QUOTE(DrunkBomber @ Mar 31, 2008 -> 08:11 PM) I wasnt aware that we were discussing comments from such highly regarded sources as Facebook groups. as opposed to a political section of a white sox baseball forum.