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QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Dec 8, 2005 -> 07:14 AM) Yeah we live in a world that terrorist will never ever ever get their hands on those types of weapons, and if they do, they will never ever ever use them in large metropolitan areas. Ask yourself a few years ago, that if these same people were going to hijack planes and have coordinated suicide attacks that would bring down the twin towers. I am sure that the same Die Hard 3 hypothetical comment would come up. yes, yes, hard to say no when you set up a question as : okay, we have two minutes to dismantle a bomb that will kill millions and we have the only person who knows the code in custody, and he says the only way to get it out of him is to torture. What would you do? um,well, uhhh... The fact is this isn't how torture is used. It is on a far lower scale and when used, the information received has been largely fabricated so that the torture would stop. It's a hollywood mentality that still shows that all you have to do is twist his nipples and he'll give u the information, but they could say anything and we look into it and its probably bulls***. Innocent people are being tortured, and we are sitting here saying, yeah, but we should keep torture availabel just in case with two minutes left to go in the fourth quarter... the fact is, if a scenario like this comes up...law will likely be bypassed. BUt that doesn't mean we should not legislate a no-torture policy, just because the doomsday scenario is in the distance.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Dec 8, 2005 -> 06:55 AM) For those who believe there is no justification at all for torture.... So if Johnny Jihadi is part of a terrorist cell and has operational knowlege of a major disaster such as biological weapon/nuclear/chemical that is going to be detonated in a major metropolitan area, there is no reason what so ever to give this guy the five across the eyes, or some other methods to get the information that could save thousands of people. Maybe we can give the family members of those people a letter letting them know that I know their family member died a horrible painful death, but we saved the right of due process of Johnny Jihadi. Sorry at times the humane thing is to save the masses from death and pain over one person. That person lost their rights when they decided to take actions to murder thousands. yes, yes, the famous "Die Hard 3" hypothetical situation... :rolly

QUOTE(LowerCaseRepublican @ Dec 8, 2005 -> 05:44 AM) Wow, I am a real thread killa. /still waiting for torture proponents to say that our murdering people in custody is a good thing for our image & that it will cease terrorism you reflect what i want to say much better than i can.

i've tried to get into matisyahu, and while it can be occasionally pleasant, i f***in hate faked reggae accents, and all his songs sound the same

QUOTE(Rex Kickass @ Dec 7, 2005 -> 06:43 PM) I haven't even heard them. but can't you tell from the review its bulls*** (not actual quotes) they are overrated because they made a lot of records and i don't like them so i'm just getting back at my ex-boyfriend who used to like them and i don't even talk about the song but bahhh /rant

i can't believe no one disagreed with The Fall bashing...arghghghgh

QUOTE(sox4lifeinPA @ Dec 7, 2005 -> 04:24 PM) ^^^^ precisely what goes on around here. for a liberal bunch, this place is quick to judge certain groups and protect others. breathe in that hypocrisy. by the way, they probably are some crazed christian right wingers. I'm just amused at how quickly people jump to conclusions. My thoughts before I read the article, was that some college guys did it; yet, the professor told the cops it was two guys between 30-40. The dude gets out of his car after he stops to let the tailgaters pass?? if nothing else, this professor gets the stupid ass award for the week. to me it seems like some people are standing up for two people that beat the s*** out of a professor...while the professor is being condemned for words...

i think too many people watch 24

You cut me down a tree and brought it back to me and that’s what made me see where I was going wrong You put me on a shelf and kept me for yourself I can only blame myself, you can only blame me and I could write a song a hundred miles long Well that’s where I belong and you belong with me and I could write it down or spread it all around Get lost and then get found or swallowed in the sea You put me on a line and hung me out to dry Darling that’s when I decided to go to see you You cut me down to size and opened up my eyes Made me realize what I could not see and I could write a book, the one they'll say that shook the world and then it took, it took it back from me and I could write it down and spread it all around Get lost and then get found and you'll come back to me Not swallowed in the sea Oohhhhh Ahhhhhh and I could write a song a hundred miles long Well that’s where I belong and you belong with me The streets you’re walking on, a thousand houses long Well that’s where I belong and you belong with me Oh what good is it to live with nothing left to give Forget but not forgive, not loving all you see Oh the streets you’re walking on a thousand houses long Well that’s where I belong and you belong with me Not swallowed in the sea You belong with me, not swallowed in the sea Yeah you belong with me Not swallowed in the sea. oh, i thought we were looking for worst lyrics of all time, my bad

QUOTE(WHITESOXRANDY @ Dec 7, 2005 -> 05:25 PM) Isn't it a wild coincidence that he had Tommy John surgery ? that was hilarious!

the fact that he called a the fall song overrated just because they've made a lot of records does not a song overrated make. what a tool

The Fall>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>That blog

cerb, if you don't have this...maybe it will make you feel a little better http://www.chattablogs.com/quintus/archives/019666.html

QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Dec 7, 2005 -> 02:48 AM) he was my 8th grade math teacher. He was probably my favorite teacher. that's crazy...

QUOTE(3E8 @ Dec 7, 2005 -> 12:08 AM) Nobody on this site knows what emo is with the exception of you maybe. i'm sure that's not true...most of the stuff on the radio now is bastardized emo...

QUOTE(jenksd @ Dec 6, 2005 -> 10:42 AM) Too much indie rock and emo! *head explodes* show me an emo name on there

haha, ballards comments were funny

love song by the cure? anyway... i unnoooooooooo let me think haaaaarrrrrrrdddddd Art Brut - Good Weekend (hahaha, listen to it and you'll see) The Boy Least Likely To - I'm glad i hitched my apple wagon to your star The Decemberists- Red Right Ankle Franz Ferdinand - Eleanor Put Your Boots back on Jeff Buckley - Be your husband The Zombies- I want her she wants me

you reep what you sow.

okay, round up: Antony and the Johnsons - You are the bird now-this album will be hit or miss but i find it really beautiful...one of those albums you are glad are made... Patrick Wolf - The wind in the wires - the libertine is a sweet song, good record...Deep scott walker esque voice The Constantines - Tournament of Hearts - soon enough is a fantastic song, but the album as a hole is pretty average...worth just getting that song honestly... Andrew Bird - The Mysterious Prod. of Eggs, but i'm pretty sure you have that...love that albuerm.

QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Dec 5, 2005 -> 06:36 PM) I need the latest and greatest. ....by the way, you already know I LOVE Pavement. i know, but maybe if i suggested it you'd be like, Hey, you're right, i Love pavement, maybe i should listen to them... latest und greatest... Cloud Cult-Advice from the Happy Hippopotomus - alright, i love this album, its got influences from odelay, and i really love his straight acoustic songs as well. Broken Social Scene - S/T - it's still growing on me compared to You forgot... but still a pretty solid '05 release. Wolf Parade - Apologies to the Queen mary - they draw a lot of comparisons to the Arcade Fire which i find bulls*** personally because just because you are from the same city doesn't mean you should get lazy comparisons... (i don't know how much you like indie pop or folk but here goes ) The Boy Least LIkely To - the best party ever - oen of the happiest albums i've ever heard, great pop songs, i love almost every one on the album. Arab STrap - The last romance (this is neither indie pop or folk, good rock record) alright, i have to hit class, i'll be back with more

QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Dec 5, 2005 -> 02:49 PM) Allright guys, I'm goin to Cali. on vacation where I'll be doing a lot of driving. I need some new music. Suggestions? wait...by new music did you mean like 2005 music or just overall suggestions that could be new to you...

QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Dec 5, 2005 -> 02:49 PM) Allright guys, I'm goin to Cali. on vacation where I'll be doing a lot of driving. I need some new music. Suggestions? okay...here's what i've been burning out on my ipod Jeff Buckley - Live at Sin-e The Fall - Hex Enduction Hour Pavement - Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain My Bloody Valentine - Loveless Nico - Chelsea Girl Silver Jews - American Water Built to spill - keep it like a secret The Constantines - Shine A Light Cloud Cult - Advice from the Happy Hippopotomus The Dismemberment Plan - Change and Emergency and I They've been treatin me well

i liked mabry in oakland...prolly only cause that was when i hated billy beane, and he hated mabry.

QUOTE(sox4lifeinPA @ Dec 4, 2005 -> 04:11 AM) he does look like a lesbian in some pictures. Bad call on the huge glasses and woman hair cut. but he still rule(d)(s)! yeah, martina navritilova kind of stole his look