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Well keep in mind there are two ways people talk about things on this board: 1) What they would do 2) What they think the sox will do In general, Soxtalk GM thinks sox should manage things with the overall budget in perspective and worry less about individual price tags. Reinsdorf Owner/Hahn GM have shown very little tendency to set tops of the market, so when people talk about something laughable, it's more likely to be coming from that place.

I think it definitely matters but the pool of infielders who switch hit/hit lefty successfully is so small the tradeoff is easier to stomach at 2b vs. RF. I like Segura because he is also bringing high contact (14% k rate), but also dislike him because he's another groundball hitter. Not choice 1A by anymeans.

This was probably the most helpful part of that. Looking forward to getting some news this week.

thanks for this, I should keep better track of these, none of these discussions have percolated down to my news feeds

I think Segura would also be interesting.

Right, I guess I'm just saying for Hahn if they are looking at upgrading those three positions, they know Reinsdorf feels comfortable paying the rates for the top DH, but doesn't for top outfielder. So it would make sense to go after the DH in free agency and trade there. Still think that puts sox at a disadvantage even though I think Schwarber would add a huge help.

I am still on this bandwagon. I just hate letting this walk for nothing. If Kopech is playing great, you can trade Rodon for other needs. You can also just have him allow a trade - he banked the contract he wanted and I'm sure he'd be open to any place he can start. But to just let him walk is disappointing. But, it's not that strong of an opinion for me, mainly because of health. What I mentioned above gets complicated if they don't think he can pass a physical. And the sox were not quite on the same page on Rodon at end of the year and it felt like Rodon was just adamant on starting (I wonder if Boras bullied them into it). Rodon showed us his peak is a great pitcher. And he may never get there again, but for next year, he could. Starting salaries for pitchers basically start at 11 mill and go all the way up to cole at 35 mill. It's completely reasonable, but absent context, it is pretty difficult to me to be all-in on what was right here.

I find this plausible (not advocating it, though I enjoy Schwarber), mainly because if the sox are going to spend it just feels like they always love targeting the DH/1b and closer markets.

In a weird way, if the Sox were going to break their seal in a record setting pitcher contract, I feel like it will be for someone old as hell.

This is such an embarrassing post

I’d give it a few minutes.

I don’t see how it tracks that they are okay picking up a Kimbrel option in order to trade but they wouldn’t do same with Rodon even if they didn’t want to keep him. Its a one year deal. Guys like Smyly were getting 11 last year on a lot less results the previous year. I don’t see an issue moving that.

Terrible Craig Kimbrel was still striking out 39% of his batters while on the Sox. If you think no fans look at that and think he’d turn it around, I’d say you are someone prone to reactionary opinions that you constantly walk back

The nice thing is this will have a nice ability to track how well people are predicting this scenario.

If only there was a pitching thread

My only thought is being forced to talk for 3 hours to my row mates sounds like hell. Poor TLR

Man bucks are some kinda out of sorts so far. Wouldn’t be shocked if budenholzer gets a short leash. Boylen is available.

Wish they would do some of the sessions on zoom.

extremely wish he was the host of jeopardy during this.

yeah I started looking it up after you mentioned it. I actually thought it was the complete opposite. It's interesting, I thought I could hone in on horizontal slider movement in b-s leaders but not sure it will capture it right. Hilariously sox had two of the top horizontal movement guys (Kyle Crick, Aaron Bummer) https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/leaderboard/pitch-movement?year=2021&team=&min=250&pitch_type=SL&hand=&x=diff_x_hidden&z=diff_z_hidden&sort=10&sortDir=desc

I thought that's what his curve was but whatever, if it's not on baseballsavant i can't tell a fastball from a knuckleball with my eyes.

I thought Joe Kelly needed TJS but it looks like a strain so far. Would f'n love Joe Kelly.

Bet his family thanksgiving is fun. Oh wait

I don't care that much about third pitches, I want to add guys who have a non-fastball primary pitch, one that is a credible strike. Hence two-pitch pitcher Rich Hill. Our team is very fastball heavy in the bullpen, especially. Would love to have Tepera back. I decided to make a cut off at 10% because baseball savant picks up a lot of lower numbers that may just be misclassified, and at some point a pitch is thrown too low to really be something a hitter is scared of, and because i was recording it by hand.

also main reason was to see if others had interesting other candidates.