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I honestly have no idea it’s effect, but they have been just so inconsistent. Maybe the lack of fans has something to do with it.

A 60 game season is probably the worst thing to see an impact, and it's a volume stat so it's unlikely game to game you'd really notice. The umpiring has also been so bad this year that maybe it's been negated more than usual.

I find this stuff so...so overrated. We have seen so many top prospects play temporarily in outfield. They'd rather be in the majors!

I'm happy DET has done well this year. But also the pirates deserve something for this trash. They really do.

I mean fathom called for years prior to acquiring him.

Now THAT said, I think just having this conversation makes me revise my take level down. The bullpen pieces that have come together this year really do change the complexion of the drafts. That is immensely helpful that a heuer landed right when we needed them to. And it is the 2nd round pick in general that was so obnoxious, espeically going over slot for college juniors for some reason. But, yeah looking through it, much more productive than I expected due to some real big jumps last year, which was just a phenomenal year for our farm.

I don't...know where that response went but, that "rumor" came from a trusted poster who has gotten much of the sox scouting work done well and considering how different 2019 was, and how consistent it was to 2020, I'm not swayed by your argument. Though I suppose it's possible you are Nick Hostetler. You also...didn't list every pitcher he drafted but are quibbling with me picking out just 2. If you are upset about his hitters, the pitching profile that they so often went after was the physically maxed out, productive in college, control heavy college pitcher in rounds 3-10. Similar to the physically maxed out, productive, good BB:K ratios they looked at in 2017 hitters, but missed out on their already average power and poor athleticism. Stiever was his obviously good pick and I didn't realize I had to acknowledge him. The reason I liked him is he was touted as being a good athlete who repeated his delivery well. It's not that you only draft people like that, but they were not drafting very athletic pitchers or hitters outside of (and really even in) the first round. It was all college, and they were already showing their ceiling limits by A+. Hansen had good writeups from sox people. People eat up the "he could have been 1-1 last year". He had talent, but he failed in the most predictable way anyone would have said pre-draft he would fail. He lacked command (understatement) and had maturity issues (understatement). I hope he puts it back together. But to have 3 picks in the top 50, and I hope that we got a very good reliever out of it.

I guess I probably shouldn't run with the "rumor" that hostetler wasn't main guy running the 2019 draft post round 2, as it's 2019 draft when I like our pitchers. The bolded are like the epitome of the pitchers I hated under Hostetler. But you are right, Lambert, Heuer do make decent production despite Lambert's poor injury history.. The rest, no. 2016 was a really damn good draft class and I hate everything about how we handled it.

Yeah Even if it wasn't close-close, they may have discussed all targets to see if there were any red flags from player perspective on both (perhaps) sending out specific guys or receiving specific ones.

My only two takeaways: - I wouldn’t have Yolbert on the list - I’d probably have Pilkington lower - I think Fosters writeup kinda misses that his stuff changed. I really, really disliked Hostetlers drafted pitchers in rounds 2-10 but obviously they found some good bullpen pieces.

Re: Bauer, I’d just remember that Cincy has basically re invented its pitching philosophy and org in Bauer’s image in getting Boddy. but yeah from OUR side, if TA signs off on a Bauer than That’s good news.

Gonna be fun to have TA crootin this offseason. First, sic him on JR.

same.

So ... are there minor leaguers not in schaumburg in our AZ and DR facilities right now? Or are they all in makeshift beer leagues like Burger was?

I mean, they increased, but at its low on 7/4 about 320 ICU beds were occupied with covid patients, today its ~360. Will and STL Metro have been bad, but generally speaking it looks we shut down schools so that we could have about this level of reopening and an R of a little over 1 but hospital capacity is not threatened in most of the state. So we can basically live this way, and more people should die than they should but at least in a hospital bed, but our bars can be opened thanks to our children's development being sacrificed.

Sucks to miss out on following some of these guys this year. Sox had so much success with their 2018 intl class and more last year. Guess Kanny will hopefully be pretty interesting.

weird and not good. Things had been stabilizing prior to that.

Man every year prior to this I'd be super into it but I just don't care care about being forward looking at all right now.

Yeah I think this is right. Especially after Eloy's first year. Eloy seemed to have truly. mastered AAA before coming up and was lost at the movement. Robert was still having some crazy bad games, I thought he'd be swinging and missing at everything and getting fed 100% sliders. He does K and get impatient, but he also is goading pitchers into certain pitches and laying off just enough on sliders that he gets to beat the crap out of baseballs.

Dang we are already anxious about it ending? When TA's contract ends its 2024. Thats (including this one) 5 seasons from now. 5 seasons ago Chris Sale had just cut up jerseys, we went from a 23-10 record to 33-33 and had just traded away Zach duke for Charlie Tilson. Think about all that baseball in between, and enjoy this.

fWar people are going to crush you.

Also there is the chance that, like Matt Cooper, one year Dunning walks in throwing 95 mph and suddenly becomes a game changing pitcher.

I would fire Bruce Levine over the fact that he supposedly covers baseball full time for the score yet somehow knows so little about both teams in town let alone the broader mlb landscape.

Also Robert gets hurt on the basepaths often...just not worth it injury wise