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Giolito may get his ass kicked in the playoffs but he's earned that start.

If I were to bet on anyone I'd go Lynn... I wouldn't be shocked if it's a different Brewers guy like Adrian Houser/Corbin Burnes

eh, disagree. I'm out to win playoff games, not trying to get some experience in some hopes he's still a good pitcher on a team that has a run. Winning playoff games is fun.

If he starts walking under 4 a game it's a discussion.

I also do care about experience in playoffs for pitchers. It doesn't always matter, but Lynn has been there, and I just feel confident in a guy that can make it tolerable even without his best stuff in a game.

You are asking if we have more confidence in the playoffs than Dylan Cease?

I’m a big fan of any company that gives sox money I will buy all of your terrible products

I’m not a fan of Mazara but I’m much more confident he will be better than our SP situation moving forward.

Had a thought to see if any Red Sox were worth looking into for pitching (Barnes, Perez, etc) and nearly vomited. Rough year.

I feel like a game would have been delayed based off of yesterday's As game.

I'm sure the twins would be shaking in their boots after the sox were rumored in on Lynn and Clevinger and swung a deal for Gausman to replace their 5th starter and all their very interesting fans would be saying "well actually he is an improvement over Reynaldo Lopez"

Especially this year, where it's for essentially 4 starts for Gausman and such a limited SS for bundy, I have zero idea. Would not want to be the person figuring it out.

The Gausman Gambit. The Bundy Blunder.

I think if you are a pads fan you are thrilled, but it also doesn't mean the Indians got hosed.

it's a weird trade...I'm kinda surprised Cleveland was that serious about getting MLB talent back over probably better pieces? Maybe this was the best deal though.

The Indians just traded the best player rumored on the block for major league talent and their horrible offense is only improved by adding a league average wrc+ into the outfield, so yeah, I'm not walking away thinking that the Indians offense improved any more than those OPS numbers are likely to regress to something better than .400 and .500s.

I think your first 3 are right, I just don't think Kopech is the right stand-in for arias. I think it would just be a different package. Kopech/Engel/(Thompson or Dalquist)/some position player they were high on.

Oh wow they are a juggernaut now by adding leury Garcia's offense to the outfield.

and Clevinger is held through 2022. A lot of the rest of what they traded were pieces they were liable to lose to the rule 5. Trammel is really the one piece that threw people.

I don't think we have a depth equivalent of this, we'd have to beat it with top end talent.

Yeah, big win is Naylor here. I don't see him providing much more than stability to the outfield, not much of a plus (watch him go on a tear now) So their offense didn't improve, and pitching likely regressed. But they still have so much pitching they are going to be tough to beat.

this is about 12 levels worse than what was just given up by the padres.

I'm not sure another team could have given up the MLB-available talent that the pads just gave up, even if they avoided some of their heavy hitters in Gore/Abrams.

no this is a lot of talent, just not the big headliners. But I'm not going to discredit Cleveland scouting/development. I mean...shit look at the classic trade that netted the Indians bunch of duds...and then Grady sizemore.

weird I thought they traded Cantillo yesterday. Interesting package, reminds me of the Rangers deals where they were sending a bunch of 101-250 guys out for packages like Hamels. edit: Quantrill is pretty good, as is Naylor. Just not the top line talent I was expecting.