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Listen these are businessmen and brilliant negotiators, us ignorant fans cannot understand their wisdom.

Hahn is falling on the sword for jerry because hahn knows he'll never get fired anyway.

This should be the response to every one of hahns quotes this morning.

exactly.

does anyone kinda wish we had cowley back just for this day or two?

Sorry with my genre of posts that are just "I said something a while back" But I always worried with sox getting in a bidding war because it always seems like they try and land a big opening punch and if it doesn't land they choose not to counter when others persist. It seemed like it ended up the same. I'm guessing that 250 offer was a part of that pre-new years package, they played around with vesting options and then just sit around confused like "why are others going beyond our rational decisions?"

Totally agree with this. Totally. We laughed when the ricketts canceled their cubs appearance, but...JR doesn't do one at all. He should face the effing music.

Ugh these hahn quotes on JR. Did he think fans were worried about how Jr was handling it? That he took it too hard?

I don't blame the players at all. FO created the circus.

Let me help you understand. Imagine you lived in a cave and could only see shadows from the world outside. You create a reality around those shadows, create a whole ecosystem on how those shadows work. Now you go outside and are asked to sign bryce harper.

Guys, you don't understand. It's not just up to manny machado to hit those plate appearances. Woops, hey manny, enjoy your new platoon partner. Hey manny, you are getting older, we have a special rest plan for you. Hey this looks like it could linger, heres a DL trip.

KW told the real story in how they operate Hahn tried to obscure it. Hahn just tries to anesthesize comments to let us believe that they will do correct things. KW tells us how they operate and it pisses us off so we hang onto hahn.

Lillian, with all due respect, you are accusing others of being irrational to feel good, but that's exactly what this post was. For two months anyone that criticized the sox approach was met with "you don't even know, people are saying sox are interested, stop being so negative!", well all of those criticisms were right because it isn't all a great mystery. Sometimes more info obscures what's right in front of your nose.

Hahahah this post really hits hard.

I actually agree with phil rogers on that. At this point losing those guys after 3 years is not as bad as striking out on both this time. edit: lol just remembering when my biggest fear was how early the opt out would be haha. I thought we would pay more to get a later opt out hahahahahahaha oh man.

I thought machado could go for 280 but you are right 10 for 300 i figured was the starting point. There was a point on this board where I would say everyone would have been on board for 10/330 for machado and even 10/380 for harper.

No, they don't have to, but if selling isn't an option, then it will allow them to be as competitive as they want without worrying about paying players adequately which sounds worse than losing apparently.

Immediately where my mind went. It's gonna be some shit man. "White Sox acquire all star SS Brandon Crawford" and move tim to catcher smdh omg its real.

Yeah, that totally died. There was a lot of stuff on this board cheering Hahn and his savvy businessman sense playing hardball with the fool lozano, but once again the other person won and hahn lost so glad this meme could die. Though, the fetishism of reinsdorfs business sense as if it at all matters in the lens of on the field baseball success is too much for me too.

Theres that, but also just admitting that they should be run more more like the As, Rays and Indians than the Cubs. I really think they thought they'd be the cubs adding payroll, maybe not to the extent, but going after the big guys. But it's clearly not possible with the inconsistently applied constraints. So then they need to look at who can provide a world class player development, player evaluation and scouting system because they are no where close to that.

This is the perfect summary. And I'm getting more mad as either people that don't know the white sox or sunshinehoarders are trying to retcon the past acting like the sox haven't head nodded to going after harper/machado since they first traded sale. "The money will be there" "We are proving we are changing how we operate" etc. But no, they didn't guarantee. They just strongly implied for years, had a perfect opportunity and failed when it went...pretty much how we all expected! Had he signed for 10 / 400 you lick your wounds and say damn. But 10 for 300 was really likely!

I’m pretty certain Sox won’t even call Harper, but I’m deep down I’m still holding out hope until he’s signed.

Lol

Cincy got actual mlb starters and cleared a bad contract of their own.

People though machado was not favored in front offices. Harper will get signed for at least 10 for 350