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This is why I don't understand why you are against signing a Grandal which makes it much more likely he can develop.

I want all the players from the worst Q trades this offseason. Come on down Puig.

If fathom posted a similar source from any other team nobody would complain. Stop only cheerleading for validating info and crying over anything that doesn't align with it.

It would also include basically helping out Boston by taking on their trash contracts.

People are going to get angry at me but is anyone worried we are going to trade for him

What if Grandal allows Collins to season in AAA and refine his catching skills full time before showing he can take over, and then we accommodate him by creating a spot on the roster.

I think cubs will try to do a short term, high aav offer. But, I'll take rosenthal's source that it ain't happening for real.

I don't think it does mean that.

True, but Jays have wanted to move them for a while, cutting him is a "we cannot trade him without sending out more value (cash/prospects) than is worth it to us".

don't count your chickens before they hatch. Castillo is gone after next year, who knows what Seby is.

Tulo is the gigantic counterpoint to my "big contracts can be traded",

We could also just sign Grandal and then trade him when Collins proves he is ready and then we don't have to deal with a struggling catcher during a time we all hope we are competitive, and if his bat is too good to keep down he can DH and sparingly play catcher.

Hey guys, if you were not a white sox fan, would you bet on the white sox signing harper or Machado?

Contract structuring talk is actually the worst thing on soxtalk. "errr should we give a default derivative option in year two for a 2% kicker" "no, no he won't go for that, what if we tied it to a life insurance policy" idgaf.

I was beginning to feel optimistic that things could be pulled off in July. But hiring a coach specifically to punish the players before the offseason where you will be recruiting the best players in the world was the most incredibly stupid move I've ever seen. The bulls, unfortunately, have done circus before. But this is a circus, and it needs to end. Please, Doug Collins, you are my only hope.

It will probably end up being good for him. I'm shocked at how bad Cousins has been but you are right, the oline has been a huge culprit. I wouldn't say JD has been good but I still think he's talented and will prove it elsewhere.

pray for mets fans.

very topical 50 posts later.

So, I guess I'm trying to still figure this out NYM get Realmuto NYY get Thor FLA gets andujar On it's face that is not enough for any team except NYY. How much are they supplementing this. It seems the mets would be ones empty handed.

For the record, though people will focus on "Dodgers shedding payroll to sign harper!", this is an example of how they can continue to shed payroll of pretty low end veterans. Still, I will mostly be surprised if the kluber to lad, outfielders to cle swap doesn't happen.

As you said, it doesn't really bother me. It's the opportunity to buy a young, very productive bat, which comes with a price. It is possible by underpaying, HOPEFULLY, young cost controlled, productive players across much of the rest of the team. It's the total budget that should matter, and having a proven bat allows us to use surplus to get additional cost controlled talent at points we need it, or whatever we need.

Oh, thanks, I get this argument. I'm fine with backloaded deals, but as you said i'd be happy to frontload it the first three years, and then also defer $5 mill over 10 years at end of deal for some round number that Boras wants.

I really like that. No reason league can't just provide supplementary picks for competitive balance (due to fa loss). My complaints here are merely from an entertainment perspective, and this totally accomplishes that.

Here's my variation of this argument (to which I agree with you), I'm worried that hitting on the 2018 class was a big part of their plan. If they strike out, I'm worried that they haven't made up for it by finding enough talent in latam or the draft (and to this point I'm comparing them to the padres during the same time). So if a big part of this was using freed up money to buy elite, younger talent, then it will suck if they fail, because it means relying on our farm to create another elite bat.