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It appears Boylen is a better coach than I thought. He at least learns from others mistakes.

I agree and think Gray is the guy we should target.

Yahhh Missouri lands Kelly Bryant

I’d trade Alex Call.

$140, forgot to edit again.

He gets to keep his agent.

This makes sense:

The Nats have been really good at identifying FA talent so part of me now thinks Corbin may end up succeeding. Also, some of you can not seem to handle anyone not baghdad bobbing that the white sox will sign every free agent and are the perfect destination. Chill out. Fathom can point out obvious issues, and Balta can also point out that the top pitcher in the FA class getting a deal slightly over last years class is about expected without attributing it to personality defects.

Ryan McGuffey saying Nats still in on Harper, which surprises me. I thought their owner always cried poor.

LOL Passan tweets its to the Nats and then Bob Nightengale tweets "Phillies are the favorite to sign Corbin now, with the Yanks steadfast at the 5 year offer". Now he deleted it. So close Bob! Truly a great resource.

I don't think Hoiberg is a good coach.I don't think he's an awful coach. I don't think "control" was as much of an issue. I actually think he has done, or WCJ himself did a good job, of trying to make him more assertive. But it's difficult to get him a lot of shots in an offense when you sign players like Jabari Parker and Holiday and Lavine and Blakeney who are not looking to distribute. Lavine tries, but it still isn't a natural skill and makes a lot of bad decisions. He also replaced Payne with Arci which helped get WCJ more shots. As the Athletic article laid out, they did slow the pace way down after GS to try and slog out more games. WIthout Lauri, Dunn, Portis and Valentine, this is a bottom 3 team in talent. It just is. Especially at guard, it's as thin as it gets. Arci is nice because he's well rounded offensively, but he's a sieve. Almost everyone is on this team.

Blakeney is bad. He openly admits his only route to being in NBA is scoring whenever asked about defense. He isn't going to get better at it until he loses a job because of it.

https://theathletic.com/692735/2018/12/04/bulls-hoiberg-boylen-coach-change/ I have to say, the "it's out of control" stuff seems pretty soft. I bet this stuff happens all the time. A player saying "why the eff did you take me out?", I saw Taj scream that in Thibs face.

That would be a really good landing spot for him to work.

I think you are right to emphasize that the team is structurally in a good position. I think you underemphasize the reputation and culture that surrounds the Bulls. Among other things, it also severely bothers me that such a high-revenue franchise has among the smallest staffs including maybe the smallest scouting and development staff in the game.

This a strong assumption. I do wonder if he just tried to get out in front of people's budgets being spent. Probably less money available in Feb than November. On other hand, if a player could help with a playoff run, always seems there is more money in July. For all that they traded off, I just hate the pile of prospects they got back even while liking Kelenic quite a bit.

The 'Corbin is White Sox top target' stuff never made sense to me and it appears to not have had much relevance.

Yankees getting discounts is the worst thing I've ever read (also fire your agent)

Kingsbury to USC. That'll be fun.

Here's the fatal flaw that I think your "view from nowhere" approach to grading paxson/forman misses out: - The last ten years have seen that tandem punch out a coach, nearly kill a player, play a player with a broken leg, publicly feud with a coach/use exit interviews to try and plant players against the coach/fire coach/send out an incredibly immature press release disrespecting the coach, hire new coach/consistently undercut coach/say the coach is the whole problem and never them/fire coach after delivering him a horrible team/turns out the coach was a disaster that they hired but that's the coaches fault And that's a high level view. The view of the bulls front office and exec culture around players is NOT positive. And you still expect that the bulls, which cannot differentiate itself with money offers, will be able to use their money to sign a star. It's going to be very difficult. Dwyane wade signed at Gandalf age because it was his home town. They essentially need a player whose overwhelming sentimentality toward Chicago overcomes the perception that the front office will throw anyone under the bus to keep their positions including coaches and players. Never themselves, though, never themselves. It's always somebody else's fault.

No, I think Jerry very much hates this.

We can all laugh at this when it's terribly wrong, but I do think, should Bulls be in that under 28 win mark, that Paxson/Forman are gone and Doug Collins leads a team to find a new GM/President.

If I was hired coach I'm firing every holdover to make sure there's no pipeline to Gar like Randy Brown and (apparently) Boylen. What an awful front office culture.

If Herm (and to whatever extent the Herm/Cooper combo) wasn't on the southside at the very least you'd have to wonder if KW is still president. They made a much softer landing for that 05 team, and papered over the terrible depth that made them somewhat competitive in 09-12.