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Yeah, never said Hoiberg was brilliant. But you see bulls deficiencies and blame it all on the coach, and I can't help but notice the players. So yeah, tell WCJ to shoot 40 times per game. Tie Holiday's hands behind his back. Have them do wind sprints. The team will get better as it returns a non-stupid point guard, additional guard depth and forward depth. And then we will say "wow, this team is playing so much better!"

Yeah they started playing Cam Payne more which you also said was a fireable offense. Heads I win, tails you lose. Holiday shoots nearly 40% from 3. That's a good shot for him. Telling him to shoot more twos, which he shoots at 46%, is a bad idea.

The pitcher that I think people's concerns over are valid, but actually think everyone is wrong and will pitch well over his next contract is Dallas Keuchel.

I was only commenting on it being a good idea for a new bulls coach to cut Brown loose. Would never let anyone recommended by Bulls FO on my staff.

While Hoiberg could do more to change up the offense, I just cannot agree with you that this is a function of Hoiberg failing. Justin Holliday is the starting 3 on the Chicago bulls. Antonio Blakeney is the backup 2 on the Chicago bulls. Shooting the ball and hogging the ball is what those players are. They have to play because of bodies. That is a John Paxson/ Gar Forman issue. He could have built a team that accentuated the strengths on defense and offense of Lavine and Lauri (and WCJ), he instead tried to find "value" in the 3 point shooting of the deeply flawed Holliday and scoring of blakeney at the direct expense of the team.

It appears Boylen is a better coach than I thought. He at least learns from others mistakes.

I agree and think Gray is the guy we should target.

Yahhh Missouri lands Kelly Bryant

I’d trade Alex Call.

$140, forgot to edit again.

He gets to keep his agent.

This makes sense:

The Nats have been really good at identifying FA talent so part of me now thinks Corbin may end up succeeding. Also, some of you can not seem to handle anyone not baghdad bobbing that the white sox will sign every free agent and are the perfect destination. Chill out. Fathom can point out obvious issues, and Balta can also point out that the top pitcher in the FA class getting a deal slightly over last years class is about expected without attributing it to personality defects.

Ryan McGuffey saying Nats still in on Harper, which surprises me. I thought their owner always cried poor.

LOL Passan tweets its to the Nats and then Bob Nightengale tweets "Phillies are the favorite to sign Corbin now, with the Yanks steadfast at the 5 year offer". Now he deleted it. So close Bob! Truly a great resource.

I don't think Hoiberg is a good coach.I don't think he's an awful coach. I don't think "control" was as much of an issue. I actually think he has done, or WCJ himself did a good job, of trying to make him more assertive. But it's difficult to get him a lot of shots in an offense when you sign players like Jabari Parker and Holiday and Lavine and Blakeney who are not looking to distribute. Lavine tries, but it still isn't a natural skill and makes a lot of bad decisions. He also replaced Payne with Arci which helped get WCJ more shots. As the Athletic article laid out, they did slow the pace way down after GS to try and slog out more games. WIthout Lauri, Dunn, Portis and Valentine, this is a bottom 3 team in talent. It just is. Especially at guard, it's as thin as it gets. Arci is nice because he's well rounded offensively, but he's a sieve. Almost everyone is on this team.

Blakeney is bad. He openly admits his only route to being in NBA is scoring whenever asked about defense. He isn't going to get better at it until he loses a job because of it.

https://theathletic.com/692735/2018/12/04/bulls-hoiberg-boylen-coach-change/ I have to say, the "it's out of control" stuff seems pretty soft. I bet this stuff happens all the time. A player saying "why the eff did you take me out?", I saw Taj scream that in Thibs face.

That would be a really good landing spot for him to work.

I think you are right to emphasize that the team is structurally in a good position. I think you underemphasize the reputation and culture that surrounds the Bulls. Among other things, it also severely bothers me that such a high-revenue franchise has among the smallest staffs including maybe the smallest scouting and development staff in the game.

This a strong assumption. I do wonder if he just tried to get out in front of people's budgets being spent. Probably less money available in Feb than November. On other hand, if a player could help with a playoff run, always seems there is more money in July. For all that they traded off, I just hate the pile of prospects they got back even while liking Kelenic quite a bit.

The 'Corbin is White Sox top target' stuff never made sense to me and it appears to not have had much relevance.

Yankees getting discounts is the worst thing I've ever read (also fire your agent)