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So I'm gonna write this and hope someone can confirm: Rondon was released -Rondon could have then signed for a major league deal for any amount and years - When he signed for a minor league deal, he was then constrained by service time when he was brought up, so the sox still have his rights for 3 years Is this correct? Or could he have only signed for this type of deal?

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Apr 11, 2018 -> 04:22 PM) Tbh I’m not really concerned about a 4th possibly 3rd WR signing elsewhere. Especially not one coming off such a terrible injury Well I would counter that now we definitely need a WR in draft, with 4 of our 7 picks coming in 4th round or later. It means Kevin White is now relied upon. The conclusion we have to draw is this: - The Bears deemed Cam Meredith was worth an unprotected 2 million dollar tender but NOT worth a protected $3 mill tender - They left themselves open to losing him then for any contract over whatever idiotic middle difference between 2 and 3 million was Just don't tender him if you think he wasn't healthy, don't do this idiotic move.

Great game, very entertaining and not frustrating at all. Never in doubt.

The Mallex Smith highlight real from this series is ... entertaining.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Apr 11, 2018 -> 04:04 PM) Because he doesn't have enough service time. According to Baseball Reference anyway. That sounds off (not saying you are wrong with the info). He was released, those service tiem limits should only apply if control is kept. He was released and free to sign, he could have signed for anything couldnt he have?

QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 11, 2018 -> 04:03 PM) I think he's slowed down a tiny bit as he got stronger/older. Still plus speed, but can't see him running wild is he turns into a slugger Honestly it all depends. TA showed speed from 1st to 3rd but little to 1st. Suddenly that's translating. The diamondbacks are some of the best baserunners in baseball. If he's still plus speed it can be tapped into at any second.

QUOTE (GermanSoxFan @ Apr 11, 2018 -> 03:58 PM) 3 years of control That's interesting, why is this the case?

QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 11, 2018 -> 03:57 PM) He's never going to use his speed like we thought. And he can only pray to have anything close to Cabo's hit tool fathom at night "The sun will never come up again. This is the end"

I'm only taking McClanahan if he has better grades, all things equal I'm not taking a pitcher with TJ.

yeah so...gotta bench Yoan for that. I get when guys are pressing so much trying something else, but you can't have him then fail that badly.

This is crazy. At some point regression has to start. Just a lot of knowing they'll fail as soon as they step up to plate.

QUOTE (DirtySox @ Apr 11, 2018 -> 02:14 PM) Unfortunately I feel like both of those questions originated from this board. Not a criticism of the askers! You usually have no idea if your question will get answered or what else has been asked when you submit.

I find this to be a very stupid play. So his knees were apparently worth 1 year, 2 million, but not 1 year 3 million guaranteed. You can't really splice that, except that they made a stupid move, once again. Oh but, we have the draft. So glad Pace believes so much in building through the draft but not enough to, you know, stock up on draft picks.

QUOTE (SonofaRoache @ Apr 11, 2018 -> 01:18 PM) Yeah my Cubbie friends sent me about 40 text messages talking crap. Weather had a lot to do with it but fans aren't coming out to see bad baseball, rebuild or not. Just want to reiterate that the game was rescheduled from a night game to a day game 4 days before. There was a lot more than weather working against it, and sox already guaranteed that voucher could be used later. Sox knew exactly what would happen.

I find this exchange kinda funny: PTown 12:54 Would you be shocked if the White Sox took Bohm with the 4th pick even though they drafted Burger last year? Kiley McDaniel 12:54 Nope because that would be smart and not taking Bohm for that reason would be stupid dominik 1:37 should the white sox really consider bohm? I know usually you should go BPA but the sox already have like a million corner bats in their system and really lack up the middle (middle IF, CF) talent. Kiley McDaniel 1:37 They aren't all gonna hit, trade the leftovers when you find the good ones. Pitchers will always be available in trades wait wait, but are the white sox REALLLLY considering bohm???

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Apr 11, 2018 -> 12:47 PM) So maybe they split the odds. Interesting, that means each team could pick at 6 or 7? I had read a few spots that there is a coinflip but maybe that coinflip plays some other small role in the lottery (or works for the 2nd round pick)? My guess is that they go in to lottery with equal odds (if tied), but if neither jump into top 3, their position is decided by coin flip? There are no mentions of tie breakers like NFL that I have seen.

Wow did not notice GenericUsername was continuing to update. Lotsa good stuff there.

Swaggerty one:

Sorry for one-offs

Wow this is definitive

So for all the talk of pitchers, it looks like what was expected in february may happen: the depth of pitching in this draft makes it more likely teams get top bats early and pitching later. We now have word of Kelenic 1, madrigal/bohm at 3, Swaggerty/Bohm at 4. Haven't heard stuff on Giants.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Apr 11, 2018 -> 11:31 AM) If you are tied in the lottery, there is a coin flip to determine who gets the higher "odds". At least I believe that is how it works. Below is a link to a site that has all the current odds. It is a very big deal Bulls don't somehow move down from where they are. Would be great to move up somehow (ahead of the Kings). If we were our odds of moving up to a top 3 pick would be about 20% (vs. 15% at the current 7 position). A reminder on how the lottery works, but if we pick at 7, we can either pick at 7-10 (almost impossible to be at 10) or we could move up to 1-3. There is no ability for the Bulls to pick in the 4-6 range. http://www.tankathon.com/pick_odds FWIW this is what Darnell Maybury from the athletic wrote today: "The sixth lottery spot has a 6.3 percent chance at the grand prize and a 21.4 percent chance at securing a top three pick. But the best-case scenario for the Bulls would be splitting the odds with the Kings, which the league does by taking the average of the total number of combinations for the positions each tied team occupies. In this case, the Bulls and Kings would share a 5.3 percent chance of winning the No. 1 pick and a 18.3 percent chance of landing a top-three selection. But every percentage point matters, and for the Bulls one final chance at even finishing in a tie for sixth has to look pretty sweet given they could have suffered a nightmarish plummet to ninth."

Kileys notes on Alek Thomas https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/far-too-man...raft-prospects/

He just reiterated the CWS/Swaggerty connection.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Apr 11, 2018 -> 11:01 AM) Can we just bank on the NBA fixing the draft lottery in favor of the Bulls? The Bulls are currently 7th worst with one game to go. 6th - Kings 26-55 7th - Bulls 27-54 8th - Knicks 28-53 9th - Nets 28-53 So if the Bulls tie with any of these teams, how would the tiebreakers work? The only write-ups I've seen for this is when you are tied you get equal chances in lottery of #1 and top 3 (tied with kings would be 5.7% and 18.3%). But I haven't found the info at the lottery drawing if neither get into 1 or top 3, how they decide who goes 6 and who goes 7.