Everything posted by bmags
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2018 Democrats thread
QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 6, 2018 -> 11:25 AM) Those same qualities are why many whites voted for him...and the same reason that (many) men overlooked his marital infidelities. It’s the mirror image of Trump’s success in many ways. They were different versions of con artists. Reread Primary Colors. Clinton went out of his way to execute a disproportionate number of blacks in ARK because of Willie Horton/Mike Dukakis. “Super predators.” Fighting with Sista Souljah. Complete political calculation. The trick was using the Clinton Foundation AIDS/Africa work to cover up the reality of policies from 1978-2000. And hobnobbing with the most famous celebrities like Oprah, Michael Jordan and Tiger (unsurprisingly, they secretly loathed each other) No man. I think the reality is you misinterpret the fact that Clinton's manuerisms, language, and style was relatably southern (black and white) to people with the traits you identified of infidelity, back stabbing and obesity for some reason. So when people say they relate to bill clinton, you think they are saying they are relating to the worst parts of him. It's not that crazy to understand the support he had from southern black voters after 12 years of Reagan/Bush. He didn't keep black leaders at arms length, he was visible in black communities and churches. He had black members of his leadership, he was visibly close friends with Vernon Jordan and golfed with him. He talked about black communities and his plans for them in speeches after years of neglect in national discussion (aside from moral terms of why they were failing). These were advances at the time though they are table stakes now. It doesn't mean his policies actually served those ends, to the contrary. But it built a lot of equity to bring many of those leaders with a bigger seat at the table than they had before when others weren't and he didn't have to. ALl you are doing is plopping 2016 view on bill clinton and knowledge of his presidency, placing it in the 90s without any context and then drawing caricatures about huge groups of people with that viewpoint.
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2018 Democrats thread
QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 6, 2018 -> 11:07 AM) I taught in an inner city school from 2002-2007 and my students almost universally related to Clinton for many of those reasons. They always said he was the first black president. How can you explain that nearly universal sentiment prior in the 2008 South Carolina primary? No, no you first. Your connection that he's the first black president is because black voters identified with the characteristics you described? The origins of that quote are around something far different.
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2018 Democrats thread
QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 6, 2018 -> 11:02 AM) But you can say the same about the Parkland activists...because black on black violence is peripheral to limiting all gun violence, and not the central unifying message. Go back to RFK’s 1968 campaign. Would that message today work against Trump effectively? The parkland activists actually made sure to include victims of daily gun violence in black and impoverished neighborhoods, including making it a large part of the Chicago march, and meeting with students from Chicago high schools plagued by gun violence. Knowing the value of those perspectives goes a long way.
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2018 Democrats thread
QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 6, 2018 -> 10:42 AM) Flip their home states. Make Sanders the guy who loves binging on McDonalds, struggles with his weight, can play the sax, talk about his underwear and cheats on his wife/is equally comfortable on Howard Stern or Davos platform...and a 50% better public speaker who can talk foreign policy articulately and sounds more Sunday Baptist churchl sermonizer than macroeconomics professor with a funny Seinfeld accent. (Or convince black voters he’s Larry David from the last 2-3 years of Curb Your Enthusiasm.) Voila...Sanders has universal black support. What do you think you are saying with this post. It is incredibly condescending. Basically to sum-up: - The monolithic black vote is more comfortable with looser morals, intimidated by education, struggles with weight gain and distrusts jews The southern black political bloc has reasons for backing certain candidates that aren't because they are brainwashed by propoganda.
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Should the Sox attempt to extend some of their talent?
QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Apr 6, 2018 -> 10:18 AM) I agree but with Avi it’ll be a way different story than Moose if he’s competing for batting titles. Depends on power.
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Should the Sox attempt to extend some of their talent?
For players like Sanchez/Garcia, at the moment I'm not that worried about an adventure on the market for them. I think when they are FAs we will have a better idea what demand for their positions we have (is Sanchez a starter or a super sub? Is Garcia an all star or just a fine RFer?) and knowledge about where we need to spend our money. I think we could easily end up in a situation with Garcia that players like Moustakas saw, they get lighter market than expecting, and decide to take more certainty with the previous team.
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The Jason Benetti and Sox Announcing Thread
You don't really hear announcers try to correct each other, usually it seems like an off air producer says something and they self correct. Benetti asking Hawk how he felt about lead-off walks when Soria went up 3-1 on the first hitter was pretty hilarious though.
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2018 MLB Draft
That Griffin Roberts profile in there kinda sounds like a White Sox mid-round pick. Griffin Roberts, RHR, Wake Forest – Roberts has a nasty slider — I guess I’ll call it a 70 — and, at 81-84 mph, it may end up being a Luke Gregerson-type weapon if he can stay healthy. Roberts is the Friday starter for Wake after a career in relief and sits 89-93 mph with occasional above-average life and a changeup that flashes average. He has fringe to average command. I project him as a reliever despite his current role, since I can’t think of a starter in the big leagues with fringe-to-average everything and a 70 breaking ball — those guys end up in relief — not to mention that Roberts loads his arm late, and his elbow gets high in back. Roberts is a 22-year-old junior who was drafted but opted not to sign last year. In terms of signability, he’s effectively a senior, since he won’t be going back to play an age-23 college season. For a club interested in a money-saving quick mover, that could slide him higher in the draft than the fourth- to fifth-round area his talent suggests.
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Minor League Gamethread (4-5)
Maybe his stuff will play up in the pen. Regardless, having not seen much of them after the CWS, fun start to year for him. Not a lot of the big bullpen prospects pitched last night, and without Burger, Robert, Hansen and Jimenez, it was kind of a weird night to follow.
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Minor League Gamethread (4-5)
Micker with an rbi single. Yeah looks like roughest day belongs to Yurchak.
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Minor League Gamethread (4-5)
Michael Hickman walks off for kanny. Big game for Tate Blackman. Offensively pretty much everyone notable did respectably.
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Minor League Gamethread (4-5)
QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 5, 2018 -> 07:45 PM) A friend told me that at the time, Andy Gonzalez stood out compared to his minor league peers. Things have definitely changed I needed more 2007 flashbacks today, thanks
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Minor League Gamethread (4-5)
QUOTE (daggins @ Apr 5, 2018 -> 07:38 PM) Translation - This guy isn't in our future plans anymore, but hey, someone's gotta take those ABs. Kade McClure is my sleeper pick for 2018. Big righty with some advanced pitches. Basically. I will say when I saw trey in person at W-S last year he’s one of the guys in the field that stands out physically. Although so did Keon Barnum.
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Minor League Gamethread (4-5)
Nice having BA writers at basically every game. McClure was a nice surprise but can’t say that velocity makes me feel like he’ll be a starter, even at that height.
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Home Opener Game Thread! White Sox vs Tigers
QUOTE (soxfan49 @ Apr 5, 2018 -> 07:14 PM) With how awful Moncada is batting righty, I’d put a lefty in. Why would he bat righty?
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Home Opener Game Thread! White Sox vs Tigers
Obviously this game is bad, but it’s what happens when a bunch of young players press for a win. Tim didn’t step off because he’s an idiot, he stepped off because he was trying to keep game time even though it was futile. Leury wasn’t trying to be cool, he was trying to end the game. It sucks. But this is what will happen. Let’s chill a bit. Seems like people thought we’d be in playoffs?
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Home Opener Game Thread! White Sox vs Tigers
QUOTE (GermanSoxFan @ Apr 5, 2018 -> 07:05 PM) Why was Bummer throwing to 3rd? Eh, he’s a lefty, probably his most comfortable
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Home Opener Game Thread! White Sox vs Tigers
The six clearly wanted off the field as soon as leury misplayed that ball.
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Minor League Gamethread (4-5)
QUOTE (CWSpalehoseCWS @ Apr 5, 2018 -> 05:43 PM) Interesting to see Rose at 3B and Michalczewski at 2B for Birmingham. Wonder if that's going to be a thing all year? Getz was asked about this at soxfest. Said he felt trey is a guy he thinks will perform better being moved around the field to keep him trying new things. I’m skeptical but hey it’s worth a shot
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Home Opener Game Thread! White Sox vs Tigers
I’d mark this one down as a game where Ricky’s guys kinda quit (and Ricky too).
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Home Opener Game Thread! White Sox vs Tigers
gameday is not making this easy to follow
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Home Opener Game Thread! White Sox vs Tigers
QUOTE (greg775 @ Apr 5, 2018 -> 04:14 PM) If it keeps snowing, it's going to stick on the field. Five innings and call it? I'm not a weatherman, but doesn't seem like relief is in sight for a while. Keeping people in stands for hours would be torture if it's just a delay.
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Home Opener Game Thread! White Sox vs Tigers
QUOTE (maxjusttyped @ Apr 5, 2018 -> 03:50 PM) Guys with power ranging from non existent to moderate (Yolmer, Leury, TA) seem to be benefiting from the juiced ball quite a bit. Absolutely. Probably a main reason why sox have suddenly found depth. Their all power no contact guys now have even more power to be interesting (davidson), where their higher contact low power guys have enough power to play.
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Home Opener Game Thread! White Sox vs Tigers
QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Apr 5, 2018 -> 03:44 PM) I could watch Yolmer pick baseballs out of the dirt all day long. He has the best hands I've seen on a Sox middle infielder. Better than Alexei even. I guess Crede would compare. I mostly love how he is so good at picking it in a place that he can get a good throw off. He doesn't have a rocket arm but it plays well even at 3b because he is always in position to get it out.
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Home Opener Game Thread! White Sox vs Tigers
QUOTE (TheTruth05 @ Apr 5, 2018 -> 03:44 PM) Yolmer is just gritty, great player to have. Also helps how he has raised his power. If he can jump that up this year past this .150 plateau that would be interesting. First 4 years ISO .50 102 149 146 Last year of course he was able to finally get up to a more respectable obp too, so maybe that's more important.