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I absolutely love Bedard, if he can stay healthy I think he's just going to be an outstanding pitcher. That being said, I'd want a solid spect and a solid bullpen arm to go along with Bedard, a lot to ask for but I think it's doable.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Dec 23, 2005 -> 02:03 PM) They do have a nice internet site if you don't need it right away... Got my Bobby Jenks jersey today from there.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Dec 23, 2005 -> 01:13 PM) Who the hell is the Thomas on the Kings? Kenny Thomas. This team isn't going anywhere with or without Peja, it would be absolutely retarded to trade Deng when Peja is a fa after this season imo.

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Dec 23, 2005 -> 12:46 PM) http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/5192008 Don't they have enough 3b/1b, Glaus is a very good player dont get me wrong but they are a little overstocked at that position as it is. Though I'm sure Hinske would probably be going to Arizona in this deal.

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Dec 23, 2005 -> 12:48 PM) I also read somewhere that the Bulls were talking to Petrie about a Deng/Thomas for Stojakovic/Thomas deal. :puke

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Dec 23, 2005 -> 10:36 AM) That's an improved lineup...IF people like Hunter, Mauer, and White can stay healthy and if Morneau can produce. In baseball, the more "IF"s you have, the less likely they all are to come true. They're counting on an awful lot of things to go right, which I guess is what you have to do when you're a small market team. Torii just had a freak injury last year, I'm sure he'll be fine. They improved an infinite amount at 2nd base because Nick Punto and Luis Rivas suck, White is an upgrade over Lecroy but like you said he has to stay healthy. Mauer and Morneau will both be better this season and their rotation is going to be improved as well imo. There isn't a team in the AL that scares me more then Minny to be honest.

While the Cards are still going to be the favorites in that division they definitely aren't going to run away with it this year, their pen is thin, while losing Morris isn't a big loss imo they replaced him with Ponson, they're going to have either Luna or Miles at 2nd it looks like. That being said they still have that Pujols guy and they'll be fine.

QUOTE(WinninUgly @ Dec 23, 2005 -> 10:30 AM) That lineup will be good enough for 3rd place in the Central. 2nd.

That's an improved lineup with their fantastic pitching, they scare me more then the Indians.

Christmas day at my grandma's every year.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Dec 23, 2005 -> 07:04 AM) No, it wasn't. It was however one of the most pathetic displays in the history of sports though. I thought it was funny.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Dec 23, 2005 -> 03:15 AM) So the Knicks picks weren't top 3 protected? Nope. Nice, isnt it?

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Dec 23, 2005 -> 02:37 AM) Haha. I guess it's time. SHES PERFECT FOR YOU...YOU HAVE SO MUCH IN COMMON /waits for you to say...thats was weak...like you always do...cuz you think noone can make fun of you Nah, people can make fun of me plenty, you are just bad at doing it.

Willie? qwerty? No jokes? I'm a bit shocked.

Yay for you finally getting a license. I've never been so sure in my life that a person would have so much road rage when they start driving as I am with you. Have a good one.

QUOTE(greg775 @ Dec 22, 2005 -> 04:43 PM) - Garland's agent (Craig Landis) has told the White Sox there will be no negotiations on a new contract. Doesn't matter if the White Sox say 8,9 10 million per year. No negotiations. Garland wants the leverage. - Ken Williams, therefore, is attempting to trade Garland for two bullpen arms, not prospects per se. Although one could be an "on the cusp" guy. (This is the most ridiculous reasoning I've ever heard. If Garland wants mega dollars in free agency he's going to have to pitch his ass off this year. A 3-15 implosing won't get him squat. That said, if he goes 20-2 for us in search of a big deal, more power to him and us. We have him this year. Keep him!!!!! - He also said that Crede will not sign a long term deal here, that it's Boras' job to get the player to free agency (duh). (I guess we'll lose Crede if Boras remains his agent. Again, keep him until that happens. If Joe hits .260 with 23 home runs and plays great defense, is anybody else going to offer him much more than the White Sox? I mean I love Joe but give me a break. Who is going to overpay much more than we will? Keep Joe). - Levine believes Garland could get as much as $9M in arbitration for 2006. Further he states the White Sox are, at present, several million over budget. (Screw the budget. Management needs to ride this into major crowds all season.Getting rid of Garland would be STUPID for business). No teams were mentioned as possible trading partners. Levine said KW's primary objective right now is moving Garland for bullpen help. --I don't understand how trading Garland will help us a bit. I love BMac's potential but he hasn't proven anything yet. He could turn into the early years Garland before he matures. We've already tinkered enough. Keep the rest of the team intact another season!!!! Brandon is mature already, that is where he differs from many other pitchers. What Bmac has proven as that we can count on him during big games down the stretch so he has proven something. Trading Jon isn't STUPID for business if you get a good return, it actually makes all the sense in the world now that we have Vaz. JR has already raised the budget 15 mill from last season you can't just expect him to just say ''f*** a budget" when this team and game is still a business.

A plain bagel with Lox and Cream Cheese is one of my favorite things in the world.

Meh, I predict a win considering they've won/lost/won/lost in that pattern for like the last 6-8 games.

QUOTE(VAfan @ Dec 22, 2005 -> 01:01 PM) I can't seem to copy their stat lines over from ESPN, but Brazoban's ERA was 5.33 over 72 innings with 6 blown saves, 32 walks, and a WHIP of 1.40. Broxton's line was worse: 13 innings, 5.93 ERA, 12 walks, 1.83 WHIP, 1 blown save. Luis Vizcaino, by comparison, pitched 70 innings, posted a 3.73 ERA, walked 29 guys with a WHIP of 1.47, and blew only 3 saves. So other than the fact that you think these guys arms are great, it looks like Vizcaino performed quite a bit better than both last year. Sure, Brazoban and Broxton are both quite a bit younger than Vizcaino, but that may or may translate into performance next year or beyond. I'd rather have a 6-deep dominant rotation than to be worried all year that we're screwed if any of our starters go down. Especially with 3 of them putting in extra innings in the World Baseball Classic. (Remember Buehrle's foot injury at the end of spring training last year? Luckily, it wasn't anything.) Brazoban has proven he can be dominate in the majors, I think a lot of his problems came from having to close last year. Also, you're looking at quite a sample size with Broxton.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Dec 22, 2005 -> 12:43 PM) Ok lets presume Kenny wants two relievers in a deal: Elbert or another prospect from the Dodgers, Broxton, and Brazoban. Brazoban is a major leaguer reliever that started to really struggle late last year, however he did notch 22 saves and has a power arm. Broxton is a converted reliever who was called up late last season and has a power arm and a good slider. Elbert is an A ball rookie thats on par with Gio Gonzalez. Not a bad looking deal cause the Sox can slide Brazoban and Broxton into the back of there pen and let the two develop. Plus you have a shot at letting Tracey compete. Would this not be a fair enough deal? To be honest, I actually like that deal. Get two dynamite arms for this year and then get a guy who should be ready by the time we actually need another sp(assuming JC is signed to an extension)

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Dec 22, 2005 -> 12:42 PM) Yes, I do. But none in 2005 unfortunately. Why do you ask? Because if you do then your helping supply money to the owners who pay these players. The players are only paid that much money because they help bring it in. What I'm saying is if you don't think they should be paid all that money then you shouldn't be attending games. Anyways, that's my last word on this subject, I'll drop it so I don't hijack this damn thread any longer.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Dec 22, 2005 -> 12:41 PM) ahh, lets not go down that road I didn't mean anything by it, I'm just saying that could be a reason he's not like Tony is because they werent with each other a lot.

Rondell can play when healthy, not a bad move for the Twins.

QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Dec 22, 2005 -> 12:22 PM) How can his son be SO much different than his father. No one is always like their dad or hell really want to be like their dad. But this kid looks like he is 100% opposite of everything that Tony Dungy is. Tony on the road a lot could have something to do with that.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Dec 22, 2005 -> 12:32 PM) I'm a believer of putting in as many good arms as you can because you always have guys get hurt or guys that end up having a down year. That way if you have more talented guys the odds of more of them panning out are greater. When it comes to relievers they tend to be more inconsistent so its nice to have plenty of options. Plus Jenks hasn't exactly been up for an extended period of time and he has had arm troubles. If he stays heatlhy I'm confident in him. That's fair and I understand what you're saying. IMO the Cotts-Jenks setup to closer combo has the potential to be one of the best in the league, I don't even worry about those two to be honest. Dustin I still think will be fine IF healthy which is obviously a huge if. I have confidence in Cliff cause he just learned to go straight after hitters last year instead of messing around, he's got to drop that damn 2 seamer from his repetoire though. I also love Tracey's prospects from the pen and everyone here knows how I feel about Brandon. That being said I would definitely love to add another damn good reliever or two if at all possible.