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QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 27, 2005 -> 10:04 PM) Ozzie's better suited for the NL than the AL. Smallball is a much better approach in a pitcher's park with no DH. It can definitely work in the al but when it revolves around 1 player and the player injures his groin then it definitely can't work anymore.

QUOTE(YahtzeeSox @ Sep 27, 2005 -> 10:08 PM) One consistent hitter like Helton this year and we have 99 or 100 wins and this division. I think it's fair to say that because there have been tons of games where we rallied late or fell short or just plain fell short with runners on. I mean, yeah it'd be nice to get more consistent hitters, but they aren't a dime a dozen. How much more can we add to this offense? Do you want to get rid of Pierzynski, or Dye, or Uribe for anyone better? I personally don't want to lose AJ's attitude, Uribe's defense, or Dye's... well just him. What about Crede, what do we do with Crede? Do we attempt to find a better hitter with worse defense? 3rd base is definately an area we can improve and not worry about losing too much. Podsednik I still would really like to keep. He was just freakin' amazing in the 1st half and if he didn't get injured he'd still be amazing. You don't steal 50 bases in one half by sheer luck. Make no mistake about it..Pods ain't going anywhere, I'll guarantee you that. We need to upgrade one half of the left side of our infield, both are fantastic defensively but just to inconsistant with the bat. Also, we need to upgrade the dh spot and I think offensively we'd be good to go. I'm also really starting to like the idea of Anderson over Rowand in center next year as Aaron could definitely land us something nice in a package with maybe Damaso included.

QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 27, 2005 -> 10:03 PM) Maybe Steve Stone will take the Sox in a different direction? And I have no basis for this prediction, but I think Carlos Pena will be the Sox 1b next season. Just a gut feeling (have any gut feelings been right this month?). Wow, you just pulled that name out of your ass.

QUOTE(YahtzeeSox @ Sep 27, 2005 -> 10:02 PM) Can't we go to arbitration with AJ and Jonny? I think I remember hearing about this but I'm not sure, I know Jonny can but AJ I'm not sure. If so, they shouldn't be getting raises that will break the bank. As for Konerko + Helton... well that's pretty farfetched but that's something I could die for. Them platooning at 1B and DH is ideal as all hell but then I'd have to concede the money thing. That's a lot of money. I'd take Helton over Kong any day though. Aj and Jon are both arbitration eligible.

QUOTE(Whitesoxfan56 @ Sep 27, 2005 -> 09:50 PM) So if we win tommorrow and the yanks and red sox lose, does that mean we clinch a playoff birth? If we win and they both lose, we're in.

QUOTE(YahtzeeSox @ Sep 27, 2005 -> 09:50 PM) You people and your crazy stats. I dunno if I'm the only one, but I cannot AT ALL attach a stat like "W" to a hitter. Look at the simple stats and I say Helton. He's hardly ever injured so I don't think his age will be a big problem. Yes, his contract is big but I think it's one we can afford to bring in. How much more do we really need if we land Helton? Maybe 1 bullpen arm, but that's it. This I agree with, not a big fan of win shares. Nothing against anyone who uses them, just not my favorite way of judging a player.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Sep 27, 2005 -> 09:41 PM) How about Marte, Young, Tracey + Broadway. Remember...Broadway can't be traded till June.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Sep 27, 2005 -> 09:37 PM) unless they decide to trade Ryan Howard instead......... I'll take him.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Sep 27, 2005 -> 09:34 PM) I would try to trade for Texieria(trade Young, Rogowski, and a Lumsden; give or take a little). No offense nite but it'd take a s***load more then that to trade for tex, to be honest, he ain't going anywhere for a long long time.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Sep 27, 2005 -> 09:29 PM) He's still the main marketable guy in Colorado. They need somebody to help them put butts in seats, and they don't have an option at 1B to replace him. And would I deal one of those 4 pitching guys for him? No. It's easier to find a good bat than to find good pitching. A guy like Casey Rogowski who's hit over .300 down at B-Ham could be an option as well. Don't you think your boy in zona could be had for aaron and marte? I'd be willing to bet that Anderson can atleast put up the same type of numbers Aaron has this season in center.

QUOTE(YahtzeeSox @ Sep 27, 2005 -> 09:25 PM) You said it yourself, the contract. I find it hard to believe they wouldn't make or attempt to make a deal especially since the Great Prospect Dealer Kenny Williams will probably make them an amazing offer. Offer up some of our pitching. Garland, Garcia, McCarthy, Contreras? Lets not forget here that this team does have 94 wins, this has been rough as of late but this is still a very good team and the reason is because of the pitching. I was all for trading Contreras but with the way he's carried this staff the past 2 months I want to hang onto this guy and the other 3 were never on my trade list, those guys need to stay. We can upgrade our offense without downgrading the pitching, actually our pitching should be better next season.

QUOTE(YahtzeeSox @ Sep 27, 2005 -> 09:22 PM) Any better suggestions? Furcal? Giles? Any FA's out there look good? No. We need a .300 hitter. That's all there is to it. f*** power. We have plenty of it. Helton's hitting f***in' .323, that's beautiful and what we need. A consistent hitter. Power will come, but we need consistency. I actually love Helton, yahtzee. But that drastic drop in power at coors just scares me, don't forget that coors will add points to your average too. If his contract wasn't enormous I'd be all for it but he just worries me, that is all.

QUOTE(Commander Fisk @ Sep 27, 2005 -> 09:19 PM) Guys we definately keep; Konerko Thomas Garland Guys to get rid of: Marte Everett Pods El Douche Bag Ozzie Harold "smelling salts" Baines Walker Cora and just about the entire bench except Anderson. Also, get a real left fielder somewhere. Let me guess: Pods isn't a real left fielder cause he doesn't hit for power?

QUOTE(YahtzeeSox @ Sep 27, 2005 -> 09:18 PM) Todd f***ing Helton. Make this trade, we need a superstar. He's the man. The Rockies should be willing to listen to deals. Helton's power numbers just died this year for whatever reason and that contract scares the hell out of me with the way his power took a hit this year.

QUOTE(C_LEE45 @ Sep 27, 2005 -> 09:09 PM) Mine is PodsCF Furcal SS Giles Dh Konerko 1b Dye RF AJ C Iguchi 2nd Anderson LF Crede 3rd bench uribe ,rowand.ozuna,widger pitching Buerhle Garcia count Garland BMACK I'd rather have pauly in center then pods.

Gid rid of el duque somehow. Sign Mueller or Furcal, trade Rowand and Marte for Chad Tracey or someone that could bat 3rd and let Anderson play center. Get a left handed long reliever. Most importantly we got to resign pauly and this coming from someone who had seen enough of PK in the first half. Obviously these are just my realistic ways to upgrade the team as of right now.

Right f***in guy on the hill. We NEED this one.

QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 27, 2005 -> 08:54 PM) Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice, shame on you. What happens if they fool you 5 times? Ha, you're right, his effort tonight was pitiful, I'm just saying he's so lost at the plate that he just doesn't know what's going on, I think he's just trying to make contact and ya...we saw the results tonight, not good.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Sep 27, 2005 -> 08:49 PM) All I will say is this. The one common trend all season has been that this team is not that good on paper, they are some how finding ways to win. For most of the season, and I beleive still now somehow, we have the best record in the AL, if not 2nd best in the MLB. That would mean there are 28 other managers that would love to have the record we have. My question is, why did I hear no love on this about how great Ozzie was in the 1st half? It was all about how we were making things happen, and this is amazing. Now when we lose, its not the players to blame, its Ozzie. If were going to blame Ozzie, should it not go both ways? Good point tony. Our pitching on paper is damn good and to tell you the truth our offense ain't bad on paper either. Here's the problem, offensively almost every single hitter we have is streaky as all hell so when they're bad they are real bad and vice versa. Guys like Juan, Joe, Dye, Everett all can carry our offense for short periods of time and then just suck for long stretches. Most of us knew that ozzie was a horrendous in game manager but some including myself thought they way he handles the team and motivates these guys outweighed the negatives with him, I'm not so sure about that anymore.

QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 27, 2005 -> 08:49 PM) That's been pretty much beaten to death. Everyone knows he should be fired the day after the season ends. He's just not getting through to his players. The game plan, according to Ozzie tonight, was to go the opposite way on Robertson. Maybe Rowand should pay more attention? I wouldn't doubt if aaron was trying to go that way tonight, he's so off right now that he's just lost in the batters box.

Where the hell was Timo in the 8th....and no I'm not joking.

1st strike-50 games 2nd stirke- season 3rd strike- You're gone

I think it's pretty obvious the Dolphins are winning the superbowl this year.

QUOTE(robinventura23 @ Sep 26, 2005 -> 03:51 PM) Pods, LF Tad, 2B AJ, C PK, 1B Dye, RF Everett, DH Rowand, CF Crede, 3B Uribe, SS Garland, RHP Ozzie: Rowand is the best #3 hitter we have right now. Oh, well. I'd agree but I'm fine with this lineup, Rowand better be batting 3rd though against left handers.

QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Sep 26, 2005 -> 11:47 AM) Just another result of a public education system that divorces love & commitment to marriage from sex. Why are some of you surprised? The public schools teach sex education & distribute condoms like they were training kids to be porno stars. This occurs at ages USSC justice Ginsberg approves of (12+). Had this woman been endoctrinated with the belief that sex & marriage are indivisible it's unlikely she would have been crazy enough to do this. You are strange.