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QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 03:04 PM) Why is it so hard to understand that Gload hurt his shoulder in spring training and still has not regained his throwing arm? So what if he tore it up in AAA? The guy was fantastic last year because of his ability to be a utility player and play OF and 1B. Now you want someone on the bench to be just a backup 1B? Name me a player on the bench this year who couldnt play more than one position on the field. Ozzies bench is full of utility players. Even Willie Harris has played more than one position while he was in the big leagues earlier in the season. Why do we need so many utility players?? Up until the trade deadline we didnt have a backup first baseman, isn't that enough reason to have gload on the roster? Ozuna can play everywhere in the infield and the outfield, widger is the back up catcher, timo and carl can play the outfield, why the hell did we need ross to play the outfield when we didn't have a backup first baseman?

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 01:34 PM) What has he done this year. We all know in the world of baseball, one years performance does not always translate to the next year. He's crushed the ball in aaa, he hasn't had a chance to do anything in the majors. Ross has hit everywhere he has been including the majors, it makes absolutely no f'n sense to me why he hasn't got a chance this season. I just don't get it.

Congrats Joe and Lisa.

QUOTE(C_LEE45 @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 02:39 PM) will it be next tuesday,does anyone have any ideal when the sox will be playing? If we get in, game 1 is on Tuesday. Like Tonyho said if we play the bosox or yanks it'll be primetime, if we play the angels it'll most likely be 3 central time.

Ugh, a rainout would be terrible.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 08:59 AM) We need to build without tearing down. Sadly, it always comes down to getting rid of the better players to shore up another area. It isn't building, all it does is scrape the high spots and fills in holes. It's the lollipop of mediocrity, one lick and you suck forever. That's the thing though, you can trade Aaron and Damaso for something of value like a good number 3 hitter, put anderson in center, add a Mueller, add a lefty long reliever and there you add to the offense without losing much.

QUOTE(WSoxMatt @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 11:37 AM) Yea but we are 2 games up on everyone with 5 to go... everyone would rather be in our shoes!!! We will be in the layoffs...Will you??? We haven't made anything yet.

QUOTE(Wiredawg1 @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 11:32 AM) I can't believe you guys can't see the difference and the irony. The man didn't have some arbitrary injury. He was beaned by the so-called best pitcher on your staff. Who just so happens to play for the team that we are now 2 games behind. It should have never happened. And nobody can tell me that it was just an accident. Burhle is not known for his wildness. I know baseball teams have to deal with injuries year in and year out, but that one was without a doubt a season changer for the tribe. One last thing. I am grateful to be even aguing these things with you guys, because of the emotion, it means there are good things at stake here. It was a f'n changeup you dolt.

QUOTE(Wiredawg1 @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 10:57 AM) I'm not trying to piss anybody off. I'm just pissed that the tribe may not make the dance, and in my opinion stand a hell of a lot better chance of advancing than the Sox. And I understand that it's a marathon and not a sprint. However the Sox remind me of the Ironman guy on the Gatorade commercial suffering from dehydration in the final 50 meters of the race. And what really pisses me off is the amount of time that Pronk missed because of Buerhle. We get that month back with Pronk and the Sox are looking up at us. Say what you want, but that's a fact. And if we had Frank Thomas all year?

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Sep 27, 2005 -> 11:55 PM) He was posted twice, and worked twice, in the last week or so... Once was seconds before Crede's HR. Ahh, I didn't know since I wasn't around.

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Sep 27, 2005 -> 11:43 PM) Agreed. Here were my hopes going into the season. 1) Pods would suck, but the team would win in spite of him. 2) Everett would get off to a hot start out of the gate and carry the team. 3) Frank would come back and rock. 4) Everett & Frank's awesomeness combined with Pods' suckitude would force the Sox to bench him before the ASB. 5) I would live happily ever after. I was most happy with Pods performace around the first week of May. He was on pace to walk about 100 times, and had an OBP near .400, despite hitting well below what he is now. He's only walked a little over 20 times since then. I didn't care about his SB total then. I don't care about it now. I just want him to get on base. Not make outs. Any way possible. -- If that includes stealing a base, good. Don't get caught. If that means batting .450, good, though i'd like to see the ball out of the infield once in a while. If it means leaning into a pitch than by all means do it. Ok, screw all this pods talk. Where the f*** is rally mojo, cheat. He needs to be used sometime, he can't be a 1 act wonder.

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Sep 27, 2005 -> 11:31 PM) .354 OBP my ass. Gotta change his slugging percentage then, no?

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Sep 27, 2005 -> 11:26 PM) Well who knoes if Rowand would still have an OBP of .329. I tend to think he would have a better K/BB ratio, and a little higher OBP as he'd just be trying to get on base more instead of driving runs in. Even he said and I know irish71 remembers this, that he changed his swing a little after the San Diego series. I remember that too and that's cause he said he wanted to hit more homeruns... Anyways, we've ran this thread up to 18 pages and have got no where, everyone still feels the same way they did before I think it's just time to stop and agree to disagree.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Sep 27, 2005 -> 11:22 PM) Well that is great for the year. However how is Carl hitting in September, in crunch time. I'm not trying to compare Carl to Carlos here cause it isn't a comparison, dbaho just brought up the risp stat so I brought up Carl's numbers. The Carlos Lee I remember wasn't exactly the most clutch player either, he loved to swing first pitch and pop up in a big situation.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Sep 27, 2005 -> 11:16 PM) That's because Cleveland's pitching has been much better. You get good pitching with the way Cleveland have been hitting, they are going to win a lot of games. EDIT: And our execution sucks. Like Pods' bad BA/RISP. Just saying if we still had Carlos Lee with his good BA/RISP we'd be scoring a lot more runners from 2nd and 3rd. Carl is hitting .294 with risp.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Sep 27, 2005 -> 11:15 PM) The point still is, if we had Carlos Lee hitting in the #3 spot, how many more runs do you think we would have scored? His .282 looks godly, compared to the way Rowand, A.J and Everett are hitting the ball in the #3 spot right now. And Pods .352 obp looks godly to what we would have had to put in the leadoff spot which probably would have been Aaron and his .329 obp. Carlos's obp is pretty ugly as well for someone in his spot.

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Sep 27, 2005 -> 11:13 PM) SBs are overrated. Honestly, this is where people's opinions of pods are formed...how they feel about stolen bases.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Sep 27, 2005 -> 11:09 PM) And Jermaine Dye's had a better season than Maggs this year, and has pretty much hit for the same power for about $8M less. Thomas and Everett, well Everett after the 1st half has pretty much stunk. Better season then Maggs had in 04. Not from 01-03, once those two got injured last year the team basically died.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Sep 27, 2005 -> 11:04 PM) Carlos Lee is hitting .282 with RISP. That'd be pretty damn valuable right now. And don't forget the 01-04 offense put up more runs than the one we had this season. It's all been the pitching. They had Frank and Maggs.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Sep 27, 2005 -> 10:59 PM) Why do you think a team like Cleveland's offense has become so good then? And I know you're going to say Travis Hafner, but don't tell me you wouldn't want Grady Sizemore and Coco Crisp over Scott Podsednik and Aaron Rowand then? And it's not like our offense is fantastic anyways. In a heartbeat and that's why the Indians offense has been jump started to what they've been, their middle of the order sure doesn't hurt though.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Sep 27, 2005 -> 10:58 PM) Right now would you still want Carlos Lee back over Scott Podsednik? No. Let me add that I was against the trade when it happened as well. Carlos is having an overrated season if you ask me. I was never a huge fan of his to begin with but if you swap those two it's the 01-04 offense minus Maggs and Frank, plus a subpar rowand and uribe. We'd be worse imo but that's jmo and I know a ton of people disagree.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Sep 27, 2005 -> 10:52 PM) Because other offenses may not hav Konerko/Crede/Uribe/Iguchi in the infield that could hit for almost 100HR's in a season. Look at the NL for example. Teams like Arizona and Florida rely on their corner OF's for production in the middle of the lineup. It's easier to find a better power hitting corner OF than to find a power hitting IF for example. But that's my point dbaho. We have power everywhere as it is, it's ok to have a slap hitting left fielder.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Sep 27, 2005 -> 10:43 PM) What does Pods do that's awfully special then if it doesn't show up on the stats? Ask Iguchi.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Sep 27, 2005 -> 10:42 PM) where power is VITAL Why is that again?