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QUOTE(YASNY @ Jul 21, 2005 -> 07:55 AM) I think, because we are such great fans, the Sox should treat us to a game in the scout seats. :rolly It can be a real life game thread behind homeplate. "f*** YOU CRUDDY" "KONERKO YOUR SLOWASS f***IN SUCKS" "CORPSEBALL, CORPSEBALL, CORPSESBALL."

QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Jul 21, 2005 -> 08:57 AM) Did we even offer him two years in the off season?? Yes, the deal was all but done until the giants stepped in and added an extra year.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jul 21, 2005 -> 09:10 AM) Franks isnt to bad. Plus he doesnt have enough AB's to make it a blood bath. Now Crede and AJ on the other had. When you look at it you have dueling blood baths. We have way to many pull hitters on our team when you look at these charts. Hence why they have such low BAs. Thing is AJ's whole career he's been a great hitter to all fields, he'll snap out of it, he's just been slumping for a bit. I agree though, aj's been pulling everything but with the way he's handled the pitching staff this year I won't ride him about his offense cause that's secondary.

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Jul 21, 2005 -> 08:40 AM) That's Iguchi's spot in the lineup. Period. Exactly, someone said it before but the 1-2 spots in the order have been the high spots of the batting year all season, without those 2 guys this offense would be dead. Anyways I agree with 2k5, Carl needs more ab's whether it's filling in for Frank, Jermaine or letting Jermaine play first base, Carl needs to be in there.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jul 21, 2005 -> 02:45 AM) If you ask Ozzie ANY question, you can count on a smile (maybe) and a curse (certainly). And if you ask ozzie a question about a player or any person in general you can be 100 percent certain that the word kid will be used.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jul 21, 2005 -> 02:38 AM) If I'm in Kenny's place, I have two things in mind, what I'd like to trade for Burnett and what the max is that will trade for Burnett. If things work out to where we can get Burnett somewhere between those two points, he'll pull the trigger. Completely agreed.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jul 21, 2005 -> 02:34 AM) I think KW will keep exploring possibilities. However, when he made that remark about not foreseeing any big deals, he also said that he didn't want to rape the big club to do so and that is what was being asked for. The market changes as the deadline approaches, so he'll keep an ear open and see what happens. One thing about Kenny is you know he's always looking. If something makes sense he'll pull the trigger but he's not going to dismantle the 25 man roster of the best team in baseball, just doesn't make any sense.

This might sound dumb but this kind of is like how the Iguchi negotiations went. Looks like we're going to get him, kenny has a strict stance then it looks like it's dead, all the sudden the player(team in this case) get desperate and poof a deal happens, wouldn't surprise me one bit if Kenny manages to get AJ for less then expected, who knows.

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Jul 21, 2005 -> 01:39 AM) Let's put it in terms you can understand... Mark Kotsay, just weeks ago, signed a contract extension that paid him $15M for two years. Here are Kotsay's career numbers. .285/.341/.422 and Rowand's .289/.341/.456 They are defensive equals, maybe a slight nod to Kotsay. Kotsay is making 6.5M this year, and will make 7 M in 06 & 07, then & 8M in '08. Rowand's three year contract was for 8.5M -- If you wanted to trade him, there would be 29 other teams beating down our door to take the guy off our hands at that price. Stop making sense

QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Jul 21, 2005 -> 01:03 AM) Its funny how you mention all pitchers when we are talking about a non-pitcher..... Pitchers and position players are different when it comes to contracts. With hitters you have to prove yourself more. A course there are still expections like Adrian Beltre but his year last year was >>>> Rowands and he always had that much potential. Ya cause Beltre's making what 12 mill this year?? While Aaron's making 2. Beltre's always had potential and so has aaron though obviously more for Adrian. A lot of players get big money after 1 big year and Aaron's making 2 mill this year so it's not like kenny gave him a huge contract. I'll add another hitter in there as well since I guess pitchers don't count......Victor Martinez.

QUOTE(Soxfest @ Jul 21, 2005 -> 12:36 AM) Market is not that great for a 1 year wonder Tell that to Eric Milton, Carl Pavano, Kris Benson, Jaret Wright. Now go look up the fact that Aaron is a career .288 hitter and one of the top defensive centerfielders in baseball.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jul 21, 2005 -> 12:18 AM) We all know B-Mac wasn't ready, so there's no real point in using the B-Mac in the majors argument. And yes we all saw what Lowe did in the playoffs, but is it a guarantee that he's going to pitch like that again especially when his regular season stats are not great to say the least? At least someone like Jason Schmidt has had good form leading up to the deadline. And have a look at Lowe's splits compared to an un-named pitcher (I'll let you all try and guess which one it is). (Lowe is #1 BTW) BAA: 1) .284 2) .228 ERA: 1) 4.18 2) 4.34 WHIP: 1) 1.36 2) 1.30 HR: 1) 18 2) 17 Away Games: 1) 0-5 2) 3-2 July: 1) 0-2, 9.22 ERA 2) 2-2, 5.09 ERA Can I play??

QUOTE(hi8is @ Jul 20, 2005 -> 11:58 PM) tonight on the local night news, channel 5... KTLA... they had a segment in their sports spot noting "intense intrest" from both the red and WHITE SOX for jeff weaver. all that was said, aside from both teams having "intense intrest" was that if the dodgers do trade weaver, they will be waving the white flag and will be giving up on their season. Weaver's a guy the sox probably figure could start and then pitch out of the pen as well. It's an interesting though considering Weaver is the opposite of a character guy, still has a great arm though.

QUOTE(DePloderer @ Jul 20, 2005 -> 03:13 PM) Something a little different. That's the best one you've made so far and that's saying a lot.

QUOTE(danman31 @ Jul 20, 2005 -> 11:40 PM) Maybe the Sox just want to take it slowly with him. Daigle has been playing a lot of 3B so he has nothing to do with it. Kanny got rained out. For some reason it slipped my mind that ross was down in Charlotte, I guess the fact that he should be in the bigs made me forget about him.

QUOTE(danman31 @ Jul 20, 2005 -> 11:35 PM) I don't see the need to promote him anyway. What's the deal with Rogo, is he stuck in bham the rest of the year now with Daigle getting promoted to charlotte?

QUOTE(chisoxfan14 @ Jul 20, 2005 -> 10:59 PM) I saw that i got very excited! I was like omg look My Willie is sliding on the tarp! That made my day! I wish you'd post more often.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Jul 20, 2005 -> 10:39 PM) They mean the same thing... so i did not know. Fair enough.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Jul 20, 2005 -> 10:35 PM) No. Two off-seasons ago. As in the offseason before the 04 season, if I meant the offseason before 05, I would have said this past offseason.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Jul 20, 2005 -> 10:32 PM) Close. He is signed through next year at 4.75 million. So I was right. 3 year deal from last offseason.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 20, 2005 -> 10:20 PM) Every other post I see on this board deals with how some player will help our team in the postseason. Am I the only one who doesn't think it's a lock we make the playoffs this season? In no way am I trying to be pessimistic with this, but I've watched enough sports in my life to know that much, much, much crazier things have happened than a team with a 13 (now down to 11) game lead in their division not making the postseason. The Twins have been a dynamite 2nd half team for a couple of seasons now, and we have a ton of games left against them this season. In no way do I feel like the AL Central divison has been decided. If we can't win some slugfests against the Red Sox and Yankees this season, we're going to struggle against them. This is one of the biggest reasons that I get upset when I see Ozzie make quotes about how this team doesn't need to make any changes. It's better to be proactive, and go for the "kill", then to wait to see if something bad happens, and then have to make a reactive move. I'd be lying if I said I haven't looked ahead to potential matchups in the playoffs or crap like that but do I think this race is locked up? Nope, until that magic number hits 0 the race is not over and I will never count the Twins out of anything.

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Jul 20, 2005 -> 10:20 PM) I don't think you have a very clear idea of what he would make on the free agent market. -- Aaron is struggling, yes. -- One thing he's not is overpaid. Bingo.

QUOTE(Brian @ Jul 20, 2005 -> 10:16 PM) And now they are giving Steven A. Smith his own show. Geez! I :puke when I heard about this.

QUOTE(Capn12 @ Jul 20, 2005 -> 10:14 PM) I would cry like a baby everynight if for some silly reason KW moved AaRow out and put Pods in CF. I'm sorry, but the ONLY reason Pods makes some of the catches he does is because of speed. He has no idea in terms of defensive positioning. And to put him out in charge of teh OF in CF is just, not a good idea. Scott in centerfield everyday is an awful idea. I love scott but he's a terrible centerfielder.

That rain delay came at a horrible time. Freddy was doing his normal, let up runs in the first, get hit a bit in the 2nd but don't let anything up and then all the sudden he's ready to go, he was starting to find a groove and then POOF, rain. He comes back out after the delay and it's like another first inning for him. Then ozzie left him out there a bit to long as well, s*** happens unfortunately.