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2k5, Willie doesn't know how to bunt, he's awful at it and I think that's one of the reasons he's in ozzie's doghouse. EDIT: But I do agree with you on aaron, however if Iguchi isn't signed he's our best option for that slot.

Jeckle, because aaron is better suited to hit down in the order. I think at worst Iguchi would post a .340 obp and do more in that spot then aaron could do as far as moving runners along. Then we move aaron down to give him more rbi opportunities.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Jan 5, 2005 -> 02:51 AM) How are we low balling him? Do you think you just give a player what he wants right away? You have to negotiate with them first. Everyone is freaking out that we offered him less so far and i am willing to bet we will offer him something better before it is all over. Bingo, it's negotiating, you don't start off with your best offer.

I turned on the score to see if they'd say anything about this and I hear Mike North talking about how sosa is a better player then Beltran :headshake

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jan 5, 2005 -> 06:21 AM) The only place I see it mentioned anywhere is the NY Post. I don't think this is anything to get excited about at this point. I'm trying not to.........but it's not working, lol.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jan 5, 2005 -> 06:15 AM) After glancing through the websites of Chicago area papers, I find no mention of an imminent Iguchi signing. I did the same thing and found nothing, it's early and I'd think if true we'd here about it sometime in the local media within the hour, atleast I hope.......

I'm trying to keep myself unexcited right now but if this is true, wow, we're going to have one nice of a 1-2 at the top of the order and this would definitely allow us to move aaron down. I'm going to keep espn radio on see if anything comes up though I doubt it because Bruce is probably still sleeping, if anyone is listening to the score tell us if you hear anything.

*Tells self not to get excited* Oh f*** it, please, please be true, cmon, wow I I woke up early for some reason and couldn't fall back asleep and I wake up to this, c'mon please be true

QUOTE(Athomeboy_2000 @ Jan 4, 2005 -> 09:31 PM) Man she is REALLY bad. Note to Ashley: You have riden on your sister's coat tails long enought! GO AWAY! LOL, sounds like she just got boo'ed

QUOTE(qwerty @ Jan 4, 2005 -> 07:09 PM) Like fathom just said, jolbert cabrera could fill that hole for us and he would do so awfully cheap. Definitely something to look into, I like Jolbert but I'm just saying I wouldn't be surprised if Willie did get traded if one of the guys Jim mentioned are brought in.

QUOTE(JimH @ Jan 4, 2005 -> 07:04 PM) Would anyone care to speculate the White Sox might sign two of Iguchi, Cora, Cairo, in addition to Pierzynski? And do something else with Harris? Does Harris have minor league options left? We have heard next to zero speculation about Alex Cora, from any other teams besides the Sox. Jim, the thing I was thinking about was signing one of those guys that you mentioned and trading willie for a utility guy who can play 3rd and short as well as 2b, I know that wouldn't be the most popular decision around here but I wouldn't doubt if that were to happen.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jan 4, 2005 -> 06:52 PM) If by "s***-head", you mean Willie Harris, it would be absolutely pointless to platoon the two. Absolutely pointless. They're basically the same player, except Cora can play SS. Both can hit right handers equally well, Harris has more speed, but for the most part, both play above average defense. The only differences are: a.) Harris is faster and will steal more bases. b.)Cora strikes out less. c.)Harris will make at least 500,000 less. No point in signing a player that we already have, IMHO... Cora handles the bat better, he can bat 2nd, and it would allow us to move aaron down in the order, statistically they are very close but alex does the little things better. Also something that just came to my mind(yes I know, I'm very slow) but do you guys thing Depodesta would target a catcher for 2-3 million dollars with as low an obp as aj??

QUOTE(quickman @ Jan 4, 2005 -> 06:34 PM) I know what your saying but you will get one and Kelly Dransfedt. Dodgers, Tampa, Whitesox, and who did the cardinals pick up? The cards are probably going to go with Yadier Molina at catcher. The dodgers just spent some serious money to get Odalis back, with the acquisitions of navarro also they might not got after aj atleast I hope not. It really could come down to the sox and TB, however TB resigned Toby Hall, honestly it seems as if the sox have a great shot at acquiring aj but I'm not getting my hopes up, I still got a bad feeling that another team is going to jump in there and scoop him up, hopefully I'm wrong.

QUOTE(redandwhite @ Jan 4, 2005 -> 05:57 PM) You don't offer a player of Pierzynksi's caliber under three million dollars unless your financially burdened. 700,000 as little as it seems is a big difference. It's called negotiations, buddy. How do you know the sox aren't the highest bidder right now, maybe they'll go up in price if they have to, this was just a starting bid most likely and as of now it might be the most of amount of money that has been offered to him.

QUOTE(Man Of Steel @ Jan 4, 2005 -> 02:47 PM) I finally got around to gettin some pictures of the two puppies we kept, so now I can post them.. The brown one is mine, his name is Boss.. and the White one is my sisters, her name is Chloe.. Awesome dogs MoS but the bean bag chair and the blankets they are laying on in the first 3 pictures rule

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Jan 4, 2005 -> 03:10 PM) Also on the topic of Timo...he is terrible. I would imagine that we'd be pretty damn lucky to trade him and get anything that could be worthwhile. He doesn't hit well, he isn't fast, he doesn't field well, his arm is good but he is sometimes slow to release the ball(and Jamie Burke knows that all too well)...and that clutch argument is garbage. I don't care if a guy can hit late in the game...if he can hit late in the game, why in the hell can't he hit early in the game? I completely disagree about Timo but we'll just have to agree to disagree this topic has been overdone. Anyways going onto A.J. not to worried about this yet, sure maybe he wants 3 mill but maybe the sox have the best offer on the table right now and he's just hoping to get that money. Anways I do agree with you guys that aj is definitely worth 3 mill, we'll see what happens though.

QUOTE(redandwhite @ Jan 4, 2005 -> 02:58 PM) It was purely rumor at the time of Ben Davis' resigning. Pierzynski was still a Giant and had yet to be non-tendered. Not true, we resigned Ben the day after the arbitration deadline, meaning Aj was already non tendered.

QUOTE(Soxnbears01 @ Jan 4, 2005 -> 12:51 AM) Oh man, all these are great, good job guys.

QUOTE(redandwhite @ Jan 3, 2005 -> 11:32 PM) what is this clutch you speak of? should Timo Perez be more valuable to this team than Paul Konerko because he had a better batting average with runners in scoring position? Give me a break. Timo Perez is a reserve outfielder and a pinch hitter. When your OPS is in the low .400's as a pinch hitter you are not doing your job and therefore don't deserve a raise nor one million dollars when a guy like Dustan Mohr can be had for half the cost thus allowing for more flexibility to sign Pierzynski. Stats aren't everything. Timo was very valuable to this team last year, he's a very good bench player regardless of what his stats are, when the game is on the line Timo is one of the guys you want up at the plate. Not only that he was the only guy that could lay down a stinking bunt last year to move runners over. R and W if a difference of 500,000 dollars prohibits of from acquiring A.J. we have issues. It's not what you hit, it's when you hit it

Uh Oh, I see GHC and qwerty on this thread For the record I agree with dorf and ace.

QUOTE(Goldmember @ Jan 3, 2005 -> 06:48 PM) mariotti is a douche bag... That's about the best description of Mariotti there is.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Jan 3, 2005 -> 09:02 PM) No one that has half a brain. Ya that's way to much for Javy. I like Vaz and I'd be willing to give up Garland and a middle level spect(which wouldn't get a deal done) but Garland and Bmac plus another spect is ridiculous.

Awesome pictures aboz. Man, would I love to get down to tucson one of these days for ST.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Jan 3, 2005 -> 07:35 PM) I like him but he has some problems. He does not fully understand the rules in the nba yet and he likes to bring the ball up the courst way too much for my liking. I scream at the damn t.v. every time he is bringing the ball up the court telling him to pass to a guard. It never works though. I hate him, he annoys the hell out of me. EDIT: I shouldn't say I hate him because I still root for him but he's one of my least favorite players on the bulls.

QUOTE(chi-guy2 @ Jan 3, 2005 -> 07:09 PM) Harris will mostly pinch run or pinch hit for squeeze bunts. Gotta teach him how to bunt first