Rowand44

To be fair to everyone else, I'm the only one who has been in favor of this trade. Even if Carlos gets hot, he still won't come up with clutch hits and is a bonehead on the basepaths and at the plate and I'm tired of his play, even when he was having a good year last year.

He wasn't pitching smart he was throwing offspeed pitches with 2 strikes on the hitters when he should be throwing high fastballs that no one can catch up to.

Like I said change of scenery could help him a lot. Maybe working with coop would help too. I think at worse benson would be a solid 5th starter and atleast give the sox a chance to win. To me getting rid of Carlos is a huge plus and one way or another has to be done. If the sox could get rid of Carlos and get Garcia, I'd much rather have that then benson, I just don't think Lee for Garcia straight up would go down, but if that deal was possible I'd absolutely love it.

Haha, I knew someone was going to say that. I just think either Carlos or PK must go and I'd rather it be carlos. I just think pitt would be willing to make a trade right away and if the sox were to trade for Garcia it's going to take a while. I also believe the pirates would take Lee straight up while the mariners wouldn't. Addition by subtraction for the offense.

I hope your kidding, his era is .52 which means he's obviously let up a run or two what a bum.

Looking at the baseball america mock draft, it says the sox have been targeting college pitchers: Diamond, Hoyman, Perkins, Purcey and Vargas, I see their stats but what do you guys know about these pitchers?

I don't care how good he is, I hope they don't draft an outfielder with their first pick, I'm wit jas and want to see pitching, pitching, and more pitching.

Ok I'm sure some people aren't going to like this but I thought I'd bring it up. In my opinion not only would this help the pitching staff it would help the offense. I know Benson would be a risk but I think at worse he'd be a solid 5th starter and who knows with a change of scenery he might start living up to some of his potential. Salary wise for this year it's pretty much a wash and the Pirates would probably do this trade and probably do it right now. They could use a power hitting outfielder and they've wanted to trade Benson for a while now. With Lee gone you could put Gload in left field and see if he could produce and balance out the lineup a little more with another left handed bat(it's amazing how well the sox hit with three lefties out there) and if gload couldn't produce as an every day player(but i think he would) then reed could still be an answer in aaa. I personally would love a trade like this but I'm sure there are many of you who would be real opposed to it, I just thought I'd bring it up.

Yup exactly, everyone hates when the sox lose and some games hurt more then others, but get used to it, it's baseball teams are going to lose games, I do agree with jreed that these dumb threads after every lose have to stop....UNBELIEVABLE.

I completely agree it's dumb for someone to post one of these threads everytime someone has a bad game. But the thing is there is always one person who is going to post one of these dumb threads. Like I said before..... deep breaths.

Ok you think everyone is always choking, everytime someone gets out doesn't mean he choked. :headshake

It's ok just calm down, c'mon deep breaths now. Honestly though, what did you expect you knew one of these threads would show up.

The dodgers definitely wouldn't do Alvarez for Konerko if they would, KW probably would have already pulled the trigger on that, because that would be a great trade.

Neal Cotts will be a stud starting pitcher, period. He didn't really step into the greatest situation tonight. Next year he will have a permanent spot in the rotation and prove to everyone what kind of player he really is.

hmmm... never thought about Chipper, what's his contract status, that actually might be something to think about because I think atlanta will be way out of it by the deadline and if they are, they might be at the point where they're going to start rebuilding. I've wanted the sox to go after Randall since the offseason I think he'd be a great pickup. I think delgado is a pipe dream but he probably will be traded this year.

We're talking about Shannon Stewart not Josh Stewart.

Frank's back tonight : uribe 2b perez cf ordonez rf thomas dh lee lf valentin ss konerko 1b crede 3b olivo c

And he just signed a contract extension a couple of weeks ago.

I agree, Gibbons would be a great guy to have on the sox but I don't think the o's will want to part with him right now.

Why because he's the most negative person in the world. Obviously in his mind roger, biggio or bagwell will get injured by the asb but the cubs will get everyone healthy and have no other injuries the rest of the year. :headshake

No thanks on Baldwin, he sucks.

Everytime the sox have 3 lefties in the lineup they seem to win.

Right beastly, because Uribe, Shingo and Shoney have done nothing this year. I know shoney was acquired in a trade last year, but Kenny and ozzie both kept faith in the guy and gave him a spot in the rotation even after a terrible spring. Even if you think it's all because of ozzie, who hired him?

I'm happy they're ambassadors for baseball.

Jose is a fine ss and there is absolutely no reason to move him around. If you don't like his defense at ss your definitely not going to like it at 3b.