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What's the reason Seattle would have soured on Tyler? His numbers seem decent enough every stop.

Spicey no!

We have 2 or 3 legit prospects pitching daily it seems. Amazing.

The k rate is just the sexiest thing I've ever seen.

I'm excited for Brock to be gone as well.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Jul 20, 2017 -> 11:17 PM) I believe he's played a good deal of LF this year. Not as much as you'd think. That's why it's nice to see him out there now.

QUOTE (2005thxfrthmmrs @ Jul 20, 2017 -> 09:50 PM) How many innings Kopecki will throw this season? 100? 110? Already at 92 after tonight. 110 maybe? That's just me throwing s*** out there. I'm guessing him and Cease get shut down semi soon.

Jake is going to absolutely fly through the system.

Ya that Kanny lineup is bonkers.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 20, 2017 -> 05:36 PM) Still waiting to hear anyone not affiliated with the Sox say that Collins looks better on defense. In a recent chat, KLaw said he has heard absolutely nothing about Collins improving There's numbers that back up his improvement as well.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 20, 2017 -> 04:29 PM) I've seen you mention the passing on him twice thing a few times now...I know we passed on him once in the draft, but what is the second time you are referring to? Sounds like he was the main piece that they were offering in a proposed Q deal as well but the Sox wanted the Eloy package instead. Obviously there's a ton more that goes into all that, just funny how things work out.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 20, 2017 -> 04:24 PM) Ultimately, that is what I conceded yesterday. If they really believe in him, fabulous. They obviously do this for a living, while I sit on the couch. One minor gripe: It is IRRELEVANT that the White Sox paid very little for Tommy Kahnle. That has absolutely nothing to do with his market value. The White Sox paid an immense price for Gordon Beckham, and yet his market value was very little (despite them getting a decent little prospect back for him from the Angels). It works both ways. Completely agree here. It's a fun exercise to do stuff like that but it has absolutely nothing to do with the current deal.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jul 20, 2017 -> 04:21 PM) Jason Martinez of MLB trade rumors had this to say about the trade... "Rutherford is a top 25-40 prospect in baseball. They got him for a reliever with a few very good months, a rental in Frazier and shed Robertson's entire salary. I love this deal for the Sox" Tommy Kahnle is a top 10 reliever in baseball this year, Robertson is a proven closer and Frazier hit 40 homeruns last year, they got all 3 of these guys because the Sox wanted a guy with a .733 ops in low A ball this year. Oversimplifying stuff is fun(this isn't a shot at you steven, it's just an easy thing to do). Like wite said, this can go either way, just depends how you feel about it. I said it earlier but it is funny to me that the guy the Sox coveted so much is one they've seemingly passed on twice in the last year. Not a shot at him at all, it's just crazy how things work out.

You can say what you want on the deal(and I've said my piece) but saying the Yanks no longer had high hopes for Rutherford after drafting him just last year is absurd.

QUOTE (SonofaRoache @ Jul 20, 2017 -> 02:31 PM) It factors into the players we bring in. The top guys will more likely fill needs in trades. I don't think Rick was looking to acquire shortstops because of Tim. We may bring in secondary guys but nothing with high potential. I really don't think that's true.

I find Raven super cute but she's also a super weirdo.

QUOTE (SonofaRoache @ Jul 20, 2017 -> 02:10 PM) This is true but I don't want to pass up talent at that position because we have Anderson like organizations do. Anderson hasn't proved his worth yet so we should probably be cautious about giving him an unchallenged role. I don't think we're going to pass up on talent at any position. Rick has just been accumulating the best talent he can.

And lets also be honest here, he's a victim of his own success at this point. He came to the majors last season and played a lot better than any of us thought he would right away. Because of that, he looks a lot worse this season. Next year is a big year for him but I'm confident he rights the ship.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 20, 2017 -> 01:26 PM) I wouldn't even say next year. I'd say if there's no signs of improvement come 2019, then it's time to start worrying and trying to find alternatives. That puts him at 26 years old, so there's little room to grow beyond that point. He is going to have to start drawing a few more walks, even if he just gets it to 5-6%, and it'd be ideal if he could cut his strikeout rate down by a few points too. All of this is fair. That said, I will personally be worried if he still looks like this next year. I'm patient but I'm also not patient which of course makes a ton of sense.

Anderson's super young from an experience stand point as well. He's struggled at every level and has managed to make an adjustment at some point. I'm of the opinion TA will be fine and it's way too early to be freaking out about him. If he looks like this and his numbers are like this by this time next year then start freaking out.

EJ is a fine example. Just like EJ if Fulmer is mentally weak enough where he can't recover from his early time in the majors then he wasn't going to be successful anyways imo. I for once actually agree with fathom and just don't see the stuff there right now. Maybe it's an injury, maybe he's f'd up mechanically, I don't know but right now I don't see a legit major league starter either.

Love me some Jake Laroche.

Collins will be borderline top 10 on most lists. Fulmer will be borderline top 15 on most lists, he ain't making the top 10.

From a minor league depth perspective, I'm not sure there's too many organizations in a better spot than the Sox when it comes to catcher.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 20, 2017 -> 08:02 AM) Yep. While she spoke nonsense in the bathroom, God spoke to her and helped her out in the game. What a moron. Sounds about right. I caught up completely on the season over the weekend but haven't checked in on the feeds at all this week. She went full Audrey for a bit there last week.