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As the son of 2 teachers, and the nephew, cousin and friend of countless others, I've never heard anyone claim those stupid societies ever giving them any advantage.

I haven't been there, but my high school alumni bulletin says a guy I graduated with owns a bar in Wrigleyville that is totally a Sox bar. Says the staff wears the jersey of whichever team the Cubs are playing for uniforms. I think it's called Trace or something.

QUOTE(tonyho7476 @ Mar 7, 2005 -> 02:19 PM) Really, Harry Caray's? I live in Stickney and I don't have a real good Sox bar to go to. However, the bars in my area due tend to have more Sox than Cub fans. If anyone knows a good Sox bar in the Stickney/Berwyn area, let me know. Healy's Westside in Forest Park is a big Sox bar, Tony.

Try downloading the Ipodagent, and import the songs into that program first. Then import them into your ITunes library.

300 games? What's so damned special about 300 games? Put up some money, and I could bowl 300 games in like, a day or two. Thank you, I'll be here all week.

Alex, even though we disagree on many issues, I can honestly say if I had to choose between the Sox winning the World Series and you NOT getting shot in a bank robbery, I'd choose to have you not get shot in a bank robbery.

QUOTE(Queen Prawn @ Feb 24, 2005 -> 11:30 AM) There is nothing wrong with the government helping out. There is a problem with people who live on the handout rather than using it as a temporary help. I agree 100%, and I would add that I have a problem with the criterion used for determining who gets this "help." Drive by one of the housing projects one day in Chicago, and count how many windows have satellite dishes attached to them. If you have the money for satellite TV, then you don't need gov't hand-outs.

Happy Birthday!

Devil in the White City, by Erik Larson.

One of the things Jesus went on about most in the Gospels was the evils of possessions--how they end up owning you, you can't serve 2 masters, harder for a camel to get through the eye of a needle than a rich man enter heaven, sending away the young man because he wouldn't give it all up, the widow's offering and the poor man's offering, Zacchieus, Judas selling Christ for silver (and those are the few examples I can think of off the top of my head--I know there's more). Yet we live in a country that is the wealthiest in the world--and prides itself on its overwhelmingly Christian majority. I think there's a disconnect there. Why, oh, why isn't this one of the MOST talked about issues facing Christianity? I am honestly, honestly baffled by this. While I certainly don't disagree with the concept of charity, or the idea that there are numerous things more important than wealth, let me put forth a secular spin on this biblical reference. Where would people's money/possessions go when people, in the spirit of being a good christian, wished to rid themselves of them? The church maybe? And, I'm referring to the time when the bible was written, not modern times. The church would receive every donated dime. How convenient. And, speaking to its own hypocrisy, how many billions of dollars does the Vatican have sitting in various vaults/hermetically sealed rooms?

Don't be so naive, porn 1) In and of itself isn't anything I consider to be harmful 2) Has always been used by most guys, it's just the mainstream acceptance of it today allows for easier "census taking" And, since sin is a subjective term, it's hard to tell exactly what it is you mean when you say that "we are more acceptant(sic) of sin." I go one step further-- I say he doesn't even exist. But I'm still an excellently moral and just person, and I don't need the fear of offending "daddy" or the infantile threat of eternal hell to keep me on the right path. We won't know until we know, ya know?

QUOTE(sox4lifeinPA @ Feb 23, 2005 -> 11:42 AM) take a look out of your nu-punk posters plastered bed room.... the society we live in is nose diving... but I can't expect the blind to see Society is nose-diving? Get YOUR nose out of mass-media reporting and try some independent thought. The society we live in is less racist than it was 100 years ago for example. It is also a better time to live in if you're a woman. Is it better overall? No. Is it worse overall? Hardly. Society has not gotten wholly better or worse, just different. Old problems or issues get resolved, and new ones pop up. Some issues stay constant. But to say that it is "nose diving" is more than a bit on the over-exaggeration side of things. Unless you have some basis for making this statement. Do you? Cause I'd love to hear it.

Fact or Fiction: A White Sox starting pitcher will win 20 games this season. Fact or Fiction: Willie Harris will be on the White Sox opening day roster. Fact. A speedy lefty that works the count well, and plays multiple positions is a handy guy to have around. PLus, he's good insurance as Iguichi is far from a sure thing. Fact or Fiction: Orlando "El Duque" Hernandez will toss more than 140 innings this season. Fiction. He'll be very close though. Fact or Fiction: Shingo Takatsu will record more than 30 saves this season. Fact. I think rumors of the league catching on to him are vastly overstated. If you can change speeds effectively, you're an effective major league pitcher period. Fact or Fiction: Scott Podsednik will set a career high in both batting average and OBP this season. Fiction. He's had his career year. Fact or Fiction: Frank Thomas will play in more than 120 games this season. Fact. He's due for a 2003 Moises Alou-type health resurgence Fact or Fiction: Carl Everett will get more than 350 at-bats this season. Fact. Didn't say they all had to be in a Sox uniform Fact or Fiction: A White Sox starter other than Mark Buehrle or Freddy Garcia will throw a complete game shutout this season. Fiction. Complete game shutouts are tough for any pitcher. And finally....Fact or Fiction: The White Sox will win the American League Central in 2005. Fact. At least I hope it's fact

QUOTE(Kogs35 @ Feb 14, 2005 -> 02:54 PM) who the f*** cares about all these f***ing "baseball experts" what the f*** do they know ? abosultly nothing. f*** the media and f*** em all. the sox will do what they need todo to overtake the twins then all of these f***ing looser "experts" will be wrong agian. f*** u rosenthal I'm with you. Find me an "expert" that had St. Louis picked (pre-season) for the WS last year. 90% of experts had the Cubs in the WS, and they didn't even make the playoffs. Experts are sheep.

QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Feb 1, 2005 -> 12:10 PM) What's the plan for him this season? Last I heard he was cut from the Mexican League and it's been quiet ever since. Did we move him, did I miss it? I believe he will be the starting right fielder for the Henry's Pizza Rebels, an Orland Park 16" softball team.

Uh, this game is too hard

It was obvious from the get-go that KW would never let Iguchi get away, for KW has a goal of assembling MLB's first All-Non-English-Speaking Team, and he pursues this goal with an almost-eerie intensity.

SpongeBob absorbs groups' wrath Christian critics say video `pro-homosexual' By David D. Kirkpatrick New York Times News Service Published January 21, 2005 WASHINGTON -- On the heels of electoral victories to bar same-sex marriage, some influential conservative Christian groups are turning their attention to a new target: the cartoon character SpongeBob SquarePants. "Does anybody here know SpongeBob?" James Dobson, founder of Focus on the Family, asked the guests Tuesday night at a black-tie dinner for members of Congress and political allies to celebrate the election results. In many circles, SpongeBob needs no introduction. He is popular among children and grown-ups as well who watch him cavorting under the sea on the Nickelodeon cartoon program that bears his name. In addition, he has become a well-known camp figure among gay men, perhaps because he holds hands with his animated sidekick Patrick and likes to watch the imaginary television show "The Adventures of Mermaid Man and Barnacle Boy." Now, Dobson said, SpongeBob's creators have enlisted him in a "pro-homosexual video" in which he appears alongside other children's television characters such as Barney, Blue from "Blue's Clues," Clifford the Big Red Dog and Jimmy Neutron, among many others. The makers of the video, he said, plan to mail it to thousands of elementary schools this spring to promote a "tolerance pledge" that includes tolerance for differences of "sexual identity." He urged his allies to stand together to stop it as part of a "spiritual battle" for the country. The video's creator, Nile Rodgers, who wrote the disco hit "We Are Family," says Dobson's objection stemmed from a misunderstanding. Rodgers said he founded the We Are Family Foundation after the Sept. 11 attacks to create a music video featuring 100 well-known cartoon characters--of many species--dancing to his song to teach children about multiculturalism. The video has appeared on Nickelodeon and other television networks, and nothing in it or its accompanying materials refers to sexual identity. The "tolerance pledge," which was borrowed from the Southern Poverty Law Center, is not mentioned on the video and is available only on the group's Web site. Rodgers suggested that Dobson and the American Family Association, the conservative Christian group that first sounded the alarm, might have been confused because of an unrelated Web site belonging to another group called We Are Family. That site is owned by a Charleston, S.C., group aimed at supporting gay youths. "The fact that some people may be upset with other people's lifestyles, that is OK," Rodgers said. "We are just talking about respect." Mark Barondeso, general counsel for the We Are Family Foundation, suggested that anyone who says the video promotes homosexuality "needs to visit their doctor and get their medication increased." On Wednesday, however, Paul Batura, assistant to Dobson at Focus on the Family, said the group stood by its charges, even as it acknowledged that the "tolerance pledge" was available only on the We Are Family Web site and not in material sent to the schools. "We see the video as an insidious means by which the organization is manipulating and potentially brainwashing kids," he said. "It is a classic bait and switch." I hope Focus on the Family catches ebola. Every one of them.

I am severely afraid of vomiting.

Uh, who gives a rat's ass what any person posting on another board(or this board, for that matter) says about Frank Thomas? Does saying he's good make him good? Saying he's bad make him bad? I guess if this is the type of thing people look to hear, then I'll say this -- I think Johan Santana is the second-best left handed starter in baseball. You're welcome, Twins fan looking for validation.

QUOTE(Mr. Zero @ Jan 2, 2005 -> 10:59 PM) Bunch of f***ing tree hugging morons. Maybe when they're done dying we can just laugh at them. They might be going a little far, but did you bother to read any of that site before simply waving them off as a "bunch of tree-hugging morons?" A lot of what they say makes a lot of sense. Have you ever considered how many animal and plant species have become extinct since, probably, the age of industrialization? Does it make one bit of sense at all for a woman in a third-world country to have 8 kids? The human population is set to increase by 50% over the next 50 years. Do you think the earth can support whatever number of people we feel like placing on it? Of course, people were once executed for proclaiming the world was round......

:sleep **Waits for predictable attack on my level of intellect**

You'd make a fine Nazi.

The only thing I disagree with is his move of Hermanson to the setup role, and Politte to the middle relief role. Politte has a long history of being most effective when he only pitches for 1 inning, or 1 1/3, 2/3. Hermanson has been a starter before, so I think he's better suited to a middle relief role.

Willie I believe had the 2nd or 3rd highest OBP on the team last year. I also believe his numbers would have been even better if he wasn't benched in the middle of a hot streak when Valentin came off the DL.