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QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Dec 19, 2008 -> 01:49 PM) All my bias put aside, it's a shame that Taylor Mays won't be on the board when the Bears pick, unless they lose these last 2 games. The guy is a 6'3, 230 pound physical phenom. He runs a 4.35 40 and for his size, that's incredible. Teams have literally stopped throwing his way, and I have a feeling when he steps on the field January 1 and has a huge game against another boring Big-10 team, that will cement his spot as the 1st or 2nd DB taken in the draft. So, yes- I think we should part ways with Brown. Sure, our S's aren't that good as a whole but we don't have a true FS. Kevin Payne goes for the huge f***ing hit every chance he has instead of just tackling the f***ing guy. I think the Bears will address the FS need in the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd round of April's draft. Malcom Jenkins would be a nice pick for them as well. Basically has locked down half the field this season. I still think Brown is worth a few more years in a Bears uni.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Dec 19, 2008 -> 12:38 PM) Have you ever been in a car while a friend, neighbor, relative, or cab driver were driving? You're telling me you'd like all of those people to drive at the same speed as you in snowy conditions? I'm glad most of these drivers drive slower than molasses on days like this. Who knows how many more traffic fatalities we'd have if they didn't. I saw it last night, head on collission about 1 am outside of my window. Van and a Cab. Van fled the scene only to run into a building and get caught up on the concrete divider on madison.

QUOTE (farmteam @ Dec 19, 2008 -> 12:48 PM) It's not like saying that at all. The Loch Ness Monster is an extraordinary, highly improbable creature. Marijuana on a college campus? Very, very possible, and very, very likely. It was pretty much accepted on campus last year that drugs were a huge culture on the team, which is why this doesn't surprise me. What does surprise me (well, not really) is Gordon distancing from it, since that's not exactly what I remember going on. improbable huh? Thats what you think....

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 19, 2008 -> 12:05 PM) OK, so basically we're in agreement that Garland is below average and would be a waste of money at 8-10 million (I'm sure he's looking for at least 8)? I'm assuming this because you're only reasoning behind signing him is that we have multiple young starters and he could save your bullpen some with the innings he'd be able to eat (despite the fact that a lot of the innings would be bad ones). If you sign him as a one year stopgap to one, get some of your young guys some more seasoning, and two, set yourself up to go for a big free agent at the end of 2009 when Dye, assuming we don't trade him, and Thome's contracts come off the books, at let's say 5 or 6 million, I might be inclined to do that. But what are the chances Jon would take a deal like that? I say less than 1%. So he's not a legitimate option, IMO. He would not be a waste of money at 8 million at all. I think he is a league avg guy whose value is in how he fits in with his current team and his ability to give the team quality starts and eat innings. For a team that is trying to inject youth into their rotation, he is a great value.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Dec 19, 2008 -> 11:51 AM) If there's no plow trucks, there's nothing you can do, that's why they shut everything down in the South. I don't understand why they act like that for a light dusting though, the kind where you can still see the grass and don't even need to shovel. Once the road gets slippery, or even if there is a little white snow on the ground, people freak the f*** out. They drive 5 MPH, they pull off the road in a snow storm. Its a case of just not being experienced.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 19, 2008 -> 11:49 AM) Like I said, his injury history would scare me off. As in I wouldn't do it. But those are the kinda impact guys you look for. Not below average vets like Garland. I dont think you quite understand the concept of having a rotation pitch a certain amount of innings. You are really focusing on the overall ceiling of the arms in the rotation and are not taking into account the spillover effect if eat SP can only throw 140 innings. We have an extremely injury prone bullpen, we are going to have at least 3 young arms in the rotation, the other two slots need to be filled with guys that are guaranteed to go over 200IP no matter what.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Dec 19, 2008 -> 11:45 AM) Haha, like it never snows in Ohio... man, I guess I treated the nonchalant way we handled snow in Chicago for granted. Southern ohio is pretty mild, but literally as soon as an inch accumulated, everything shut down. We literally had ZERO plow trucks near school.

I agree, looks like a photoshop job.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 19, 2008 -> 11:30 AM) Now this is the s*** I'm talking about. Ben Sheets, although his injury history would scare me off, is the kinda move you look to make if at all possible. Jon Garland? I don't think so. So, you want want 3 young arms, Buehrle and a guy that probably wont pitch over 140 innings in your rotation? Thats just bad baseball.

QUOTE (shipps @ Dec 19, 2008 -> 11:01 AM) Another reason why you should stay away from sushi,besides the fact it tastes like s***.Jeremy Piven poisoned. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,469765,00.html I eat sushi at least 2 times a week, its so good.

QUOTE (The Critic @ Dec 19, 2008 -> 11:18 AM) @ "brand new new used". and Buying a Zune isn't exactly the same as getting one for Christmas. I meant not used. And when I meant sell, I meant like 20 bucks.

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Dec 18, 2008 -> 02:03 AM) You know the drill, what are you wanting/craving/asking for this Christmas... I'd like an iPod, because mine got stolen a while back, so that'd be nice. The new Guitar Hero would be cool, and then some miscellaneous DVD's and White Sox gear. I can sell you a brand new new used Zune for cheap.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 19, 2008 -> 10:54 AM) Jon Garland SUCKED last year. He wasn't just bad. He was terrible. And he's pretty much regressed every season since his career 2005. But he's "proven" because he's been in the league a number of years? I guess scrubs like Jason Marquis are proven because they've been in the league 6-7 years. Some of you guys are going to have to get over this chronic fear of giving young guys a shot. You don't throw money at garbage just because "Well, at least he's been around a while. And he can eat some innings. Anything is better than giving a scrub like Marquez, a guy I've never seen before, a shot." The problem with you theory there is that the young guys arent used to pitching over 200 innings which means that our pen and the rest of our staff would be more taxed thus really hurting our rotation and the team as a whole. There is alot of value in a player like Garland that can help the younger guys (Danks, Floyd, 5th starter) keep their innings reasonable and also keep our pen which is somewhat injury prone, from being over worked. You cannot just inject young guys into a rotation because you want to see if they work, there are many other factors to consider.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Dec 19, 2008 -> 09:32 AM) Or if you live south of the Mason-Dixon, they flip the f*** out down there b/c they just don't know what to do. Yeah, at school in Ohio if it snowed an inch school was called off. We even had heated sidewalks and they still shut it down.

QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Dec 19, 2008 -> 09:41 AM) Our CIO told everyone to work from home today. I am working from my kitchen table and its awesome. Thats not a snow day though, thats working from home as I am doing.

QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Dec 19, 2008 -> 10:05 AM) nah. he will develop into our Ace in 2009. As triple h would say 'he is that damn goodd' He was our Ace in 2008 anyway.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 19, 2008 -> 10:33 AM) http://www.latimes.com/sports/baseball/mlb...,5645491.column Here's my response about Scioscia, who I sometimes think gets overrated by White Sox fans (like Gardenhire as well) and underrated by Angels' fans and beat writers (just like Ozzie). You are out of your mind, you just named 2 of the best managers in the game as overrated. And thats not YOUR response, thats a response from a writer and you posted it.

Unless you are a teacher or go to school, snow days dont exist.

Thats like saying its been widely speculated that there is a lochness monster so when they actually confirmed it was there it wasnt a bigger deal than the speculation. The kid came out and confirmed it, and confirmed the coach knew about it.

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Dec 18, 2008 -> 10:15 PM) Red Sox owner John Henry says the Red Sox are not going to be a factor in the Teixeira sweepstakes...per ESPN. Wow. I think alot of the contract reports this offseason have been fabricated instead of real. The agents are becoming exposed in this economy.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 19, 2008 -> 02:20 AM) fwiw, Mark Buehrle is not an ace Johnny Danks is though.

LOUD NOISES

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Dec 18, 2008 -> 04:28 PM) I = winner. I should be on Punk'd. Seriously though. Garland > Vazquez, and we should sign him for a reasonable salary if possible. I can see him getting between 8 and 9 million. My best guess is 8x8x9 for a 3 year deal.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Dec 18, 2008 -> 04:26 PM) Of course I was. Anyone who couldn't tell needs to pull their skirt back up! Had a hard week or something?

How many people is that in this thread that took that line seriously?