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I would D but its difficult to judge not knowing what the offer was going to be. I think the obvious strategy they employed was trying to get as many coin flip AAA or AA starters and hopefully have them make the rotation next year. Can they compete next year? Sure, but only because the division we play is so miserably bad that its a disgrace we are 10 games or whatever back.

I actually think it’s a college to minor league issue.

Do you think the White Sox front office gave the social media guy a heads up like- you might want to make a cool trade graphic.

Yaz to the Dbacks. Make it happen Rick

Trace Thompson pickup- is this a prelude to a Robert trade. Basically the same player- one is just slightly better.

Unless the Sox picked up a chunk of salary we are not getting more than a bag of dicks.

Because patchwork does not work. Maybe 17 years ago their was a chance of that working out. In todays baseball as a franchise you can not be successful buying midlevel free agents and competing. Every baseball teams model should be teardown, build up and then purchase the best free agents possible to extend your run, tear down again. Unless you can be like the Dodgers who purchase players and have an incredible player development program. However, You just need to look around the league. What wins is player development. I would rather fail at player development than lose on the outset by not having the right philosophy. Look at the fucking Angels. Have two of the best players on earth. Try to patch work free agents and consistently a .500 team. You can't win like that- at least not consistently. Tear the mother fucker down. Get A+ and AA players. Try again to win in two years with player development and buying free agents because you have no money on the books. You can probably trade Cease and Robert- get great prospect hauls and be the best minor league system in baseball.

Because although the White Sox failed in their rebuild attempt their have been plenty that have been successful. O’s, Ray, Astros, Mariners, Braves. What doesn’t work is trying to buy mid-level free agents and hope to compete. That never works for anybody. Look at the Yankees and Mets- teams that have a s%*# ton of money but have failed in player development. It’s nearly impossible in this day in age to not when by player development.

I would trade Robert and Cease if the offer is good enough to warrant. I would not trade them for a dime less than their worth however. The truth is Robert's value will never be higher. He is controlled, healthy and producing. Unfortunately, You can't say that has been the case for most of his career. If you can get a collection of good minor league prospects than you should do it. I would say the package would have to start with 3 top 100 prospects with at least one of them in the top 100. That would be the start of the conversation. Sure, you can try to win with him but is Jerry going to go out and spend 80+ million/ Year to rebuild a starting staff like they will need too. I would say probably not. You look around at the teams that are good this year. A large part is by having cost controlled good players and that starts in the minor league system. If we had a loaded system I would say lets keep our really good players. But we don't. Which means at best running out mediocre squads for the next 3 years. I would just rather rip the bandaid off. Let me suffer for another 2 years with the hope that something better is coming than live in mediocre. I dont think the thought of the rebuild was the issue but rather the execution.

I am interested to see the return on the rest of the rentals for this trade deadline and how it compares

When I suggested trading him- this is why.. He has not shown that he stay healthy consistently.

This is a tough game to be at.

It’s the offense… Don’t give a s%*# how good your pen is eventually they are going to give up some runs

Gavin Sheets has to be on the hot seat at this point. He is what he is… Do you bring up Colas and hope he figures it out. Probably a little better in the outfield than Sheets.

Because its Trash. The top 3 prospects in a bottom 5 system have been on the IL till recently. Nobody in particular has really impressed. Maybe in the latter half the year interest will pick up when Montgomery and Ramos play on a regular basis.

So undisciplined

Moncadas left handed swing can be so pretty when it’s right.

It was tightness in the hip

I feel like the momentum is building for this team. Quality Starting Pitching. Once Hendriks comes back you will have 9th-Hendricks 8th-Kelly 7th- Santos For the offense really happy to see insurance runs in the late innings. Far too often we score early and try to just hold on. Keep putting the runs up late. Next 10 games are against Indians, Tigers and Angels. We need 7-8 of these games to really start making that climb back to .500.

@ptatc Giving up my Gamethread responsibilities as my prediction of a sweep falls short. However, I still standby my 40-20 prediction.

Once Hendriks comes back and with Crochet back. The additions of Santos and Middleton- the Sox may have something in the bullpen.

One thing that is weird about this team is their really is no pattern to the bullpen. I realize thats in part Liam being out and everybody imploding for the first month.

You can see how much this team has drained the board. 1/3 of the game still left and we are ready to waive the white flag on the two run game. Not that I blame anybody

Great play. Hanser should be on 2nd Base.

How about that bottom of the line up, Eh?