BrandoFan

Silva? Couldn't we get sometihng similar for Kong? Why don't Dodgers want to give up Perez for him, the bastards?

Damn you for heading me off to the Richard Gere/gerbil line....Stupid Cheat indeed :fyou And to asnwer your question, they defang and declaw the animal before putting him in the special wrapper....Hope it helps.

9 Mill? Not bad for a 5.00 career ERA pitcher. Almost makes makes Ponson worth 7 Mill, doesn't it? I said 'almost'. And boy is MY thumb not on the pulse of the market for light-hitting, 25 SB, Gold Glove corner OF.......

Question: what are the terms of the contract? Considering how much local and overseas business Ichiro brings, if they got him for less than 5 Mill a year, good deal for the M's. Does anyone know details of Milton's deal?

Steff, what is this AOL board thing you keep talking about? Just curious. And, don't worry I won't be posting there as SoxTalk is my home....and you can't have two homes

I know he got a cup of coffee when Dodgers were out of it. No pressure and his WHIP was was still roughly 1.30, which is NOTHING special given the circumstances. Trust me, he has WAYS to go (check out his AA numbers that are far from spectacular either) to hone his command and breaking repertoir......before he even has a CHANCE to realize his potential. The hype is sickening. It's laughable to think either of these two studs will do ANYTHING in 2004 to help the Sox and most likely in 2005 as well. Where I come from there is such a thing as a learing curve, an adjustment and maturation period; even Pedro didn't become "Pedro" until about 25-26yo, and other than Prior and Wood (one was 22 and the other 21, not 19 and 20), NOBODY comes into the league, especially such a merciless place as LA and dominates right off the bat. Look how much trouble Rich Harden ran into when called up without having polished breaking stuff, and he absolutely BLEW everybody away in the minor leagues (none of that 3.80 ERA in AA nonsense Jackson put out or nearly as many hits as innings pitched that Miller had in SINGLE A in 2003)........I am looking at it from the Sox short-term perspective as well, and perspective of waiting till 2006 doesn't thrill me. Does history not teach you anything? Look at Shilling, Pedro, Brown, Hudson, Maddux, Mulder, Unit, Beckett, Clemens, Zito, Mussina, Prior-- they were ALL anywhere from 22 to 26 when they realized their "front-line starter" potential. Not 19. Not 20..........And those 12 pitchers I mentioned, mind you, are absolute CREAM of the crop of the last 2 decades, and it's HIGHTLY unlikely either Jackson OR Miller will touch them EVER....94 mph fastball or not. Simplistic arguement you say? Perhaps, but truth is often very simple. Besides, I agreed with you that it's way out there to think we can get both of them. 31yo Guillermo Mota is a "great pitcher" now? You don't mince words do you?

1. If you take 5mph off his fastball, he is Randy Johnson alright. 2. Randy Johnson was s*** until at least mid-20s.....does this mean Miller will be a stud by 2008? Nevada White Sox will be happy to hear that.

I understand that Evans would be raped big time on the deal, BUT: 1. We can do him a favor and take the overrated Perez and his arbitration salary off his hands. 2. I have heard way too much about "can't miss prospects" in the last 5 years, and other than Mark Prior, Josh Beckett and maybe Kerry Wood, none of them blew my socks off. So let's say it's 5 out 25 that have fullfilled their "front-line starter" potential. 20% odds? And it's way more than 25 (more like 00) pitchers that have been tagged with "front-line stuff" label from when they were in their high-teens in that span..... 3. Miller is 19 and Jackson is 20. Health concerns aside, the former had very human numbers in A-ball while the latter is yet to throw in AAA and still has WAYS to go before his slider, change and command are that of a good major leaguer......How many pitchers do you know who could come in the MAJORS before they were 22 and have a sub-4.00 ERA RIGHT AWAY.........Prior? Sabathia? Chances are, netiher Jackson and especially Miller will able to help the Sox in ANY way shape or form not only in 2004 but very possibly in 2005 as well........I am sorry, but Sox are kinda in a MUST-WIN-NOW situation, we can't be looking to 2006 or we won't have any fans/cash flow left by then...........Meanwhile, time is running out on Danny Evans as well and Vlad Guerrero is sure AIN'T coming in 2004........Qauntrill is gone, so is Kevin Brown, Alvarez is a HUGE question mark, all kinds of problems with LaDuca, Jordan, McGriff, Ventura, Henderson, Green....... and Perez? Puhlease, of this dude puts up a Garland-esque 4.25 ERA for the Sox, we'll be lucky. 4. There is always a chance we throw older (read: cheap bullpen help if anything else) Diaz and Pacheco or Wing in as well, so Maggs for Perez, Jackson and Miller, while certainly on the crazy side, is not TOO crazy if you look at the bigger picture. Incidentally, I don't think Mota is Mariano Rivera, either.

Yeah I know, my bad.

Mr. Class Act is gone? Does this mean that DH-types in our AA affiliate won't be asked to steal 20 bases and bunt every other at-bat anymoe?

Considering 22,000 K nets you 1.9 Mill, it's not going to get it done. As Bridgeport_Joe mentioned before, every 100,000K only brings in roughly 2.5 Mill to payroll. So I am uppping your wish to 30,000K+ now that park is half-renovated. Bring on Vlad Guerrero!

Everything is possible, but it's all about ODDS, it's all about RISK.....ESPECIALLY if you're a no-money team like the Sox which would be BURIED if Nomar's wrist flares up or if he sucks because he is depressed and unhappy. There is a higher chance Magglio posts a 975 OPS here than Garciappara post 900 in 2004. I would never suggest Nomar would have a 725 OPS away from Beustawn (even tho his post injury numes suggest so), but if he can't give up AT LEAST 875 OPS, he is not worth his 13 Mil (1 deferred remember?) tag. Again, last 2 years (35 atbats), Nomar's OPS in Comiskey park is a robust FOUR HUNDRED. I say bring on Jackason, Miller and Mota and SAVE close to 12 Mill in the process.....which you could spend on Palmeiro, One Gone if to get the runs you lose by dealing Maggs.

Jason, would you settle for Jackson AND Miller for Magglio? It's clear they ain't giving up Mota, unless it's for Honel and Cotts and Sox are in NO position to give away their best, cheap talent for a 31-yo reliever with only ONE non-terrible year in his career.

Nomar's wrist surgery is similar to Grant Hill's ankle woes--- both players supposed to have been back to their usual HOF selves two years ago, or so their respective fans have been telling us.......but at least Grant Hill didn't have ghastly home-away splits.

Hey BEV, you're back!

Texsox and mreye for President NOW!!!!!!!!

Ichiro just signed a 4-year extension with the Mariners.

Ok momo, if this trade does NOT take place by 4 PM CT I will PERSONALLY ban your ass......and I don't have the controls or the authority to do so! .

Good trade, eh: Kevin Jarvis is actually OLDER than Jose and his career ERA is OVER 6.00 when adjusted for AL. And he hasn't exactly been a paragon of durability and good health.. I know this is a bogus rumor, but for the last time: pitching does NOT win championships. GREAT pitching does. Idiot(s). PS Did I f***ing mention that Jarvis made 3 Mill last year, so the salary saving will be minimal?

Apparently there are other things you can be called if you aren't careful. Just ask Spiff.

Don't blame yourself, it was my idea.

Well, at least I am kicking Rafacosta's asssssss......WHOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! And DBAH0, you're a TRUE foreign correspondent bravely residing abroad (Australia? My condolences).....while I am just a putz who lives in Chicago and might actually be a US Citizen in about 5 months, breaking the last remaining ties with the Old World, and by extention, this award. You deserve it.

We discussed this very thing and Nomar's merits as a player in thread titled "You Know What?" last night. Look it up. Intra-spamming IS fun.

Technically, Tiger Woods is NOT Black and neither is Hallem Berry, Drek Jeter, etc. I get what you're saying, and if you want to continue going down that road, using NON-WHITE would be more apt. And yes Spanish does have much more in common with English than any given Slav language does.

Who is found, Bin Laden or Ohio shooter?