BrandoFan

Send 90 percent to the doc brotha........ Guess we'd better get a convoy of padded trucks filled with straight jackets to SoxNet's headquarters, eh? Hey, if your implying I'm nuts then, then - ahh shucks, free padding, how could I refuse. It could come in handy for that dumbass that tried pulling a jackass stunt jumping into the pool from a hundred or so feet high. Hey you can send me to the doc for issues too, but fitting in is not one of them..... 99.9% of us have issues. The fine line between being fine and needing help is KNOWING that you have them. Most people think they are "normal", when in fact they are in dire need of psychiactric attention. *cough*sanctimonious prick*cough* You guys are cowardly losers whose lack of intelligence is only overshadowed by sheer classlessness. From your posts it's easy to conclude that you only suspect the worst about other people, judging them by your own mold and model of thinking, a classic case of narrow-mindedness. What a pathetic display of self-involvement and subtle misanthropy. Roman, bmr, Clu....why don't get over yourself for a change? If you prefer to hide behind your screen names and the fact that you will never get to meet people here, be my guest...but don't kid yourself- you are a tactless, tranparently anti-PC-for-the-sake-of-anti-PC, self-righteous bunch of hypocrites who think they know what's "good for society" and how "most people think they are normal, but they aren't" something that's amplified with every "philosophical" post you make. Don't make me laugh....you guys aren't ballsy or real or true as you prefer to think of yourselves ...nor are you men, I haven't seen so many cheap shots at women in my life.. why don't you solve your issues and insecurities first before jumping on other posters? For people who claim to want to have fun on the boards, you sure as hell make a lot of heavy-handed, meta detours. Now I know why you have to "suppress" your views in "real life"- most people wouldn't put up with your whinny, self-entitled s*** for a second...You momos are the reason why Interent has such a notorious reputation, which you ironically use as an excuse to carry on with your pathetic, venting schtick. Quite laughable really.

The only crime is that Daubach had to sit another 3 consecutive games after having a good day against Twins. Bad Manuel, f***ing with a good player's timing like that. Yesterday he crushed another couple of balls, a would-be double and a 2-run homer, no luck whatsoever.

Conversation was some kind of film, American superior response to Blow-Up...I highly respect Hackman, Duvall in anything they are in. Besides Williams and Ford, it also had the underrated John Gazalle (Meryl Streep's first husband), the only actor in history to have appreared exclusively in Best Picture nominated films (Godfather I/II, Conversation, Deer Hunter and the great Dog Day Afternoon). He died very young. Wild One? Great jazz notwithstanding...well, look at my moniker, lol. You have great taste, SI.

Flynt, Michigan. Plenty of very patriotic and American sights.

Dude, Marines are sooo gay.

Having you seen Burly in the day light though? At least Wunsht has some (hair)style if you can call it that. Of course none of them coul beat Randy Johnson...who in turn would get his ass kicked by Larry Bird, possibly the ugliest famous mofo ALIVE.

The more pressing question is...who wins the ugly-off, Wunsht or Burly?

So that makes them best friends? Melanin. All dem brothas are taaaaiighhht. For reals.

If Jose ever hits .350 with 40+ homers, that means he would probably drive in about 140-150 runs given his propensity to excel with pressure ...couple that with "flawless defense", range, arm at SS as well as base-running, leadership, etc. Why he'd be worth 20+ mill a year. Sure the Sox would pay the tab?

Off the top of my head, here are the Sox ml prospects I give a s*** about/have serious ML potential: -Ring -Rauch -Diaz/Pacheco/Ginter/Munoz -Borchard/Harris -Reed/Webster -Almonte/Yofu/Stumm -Cotts -Malone/Wing -Honel -Micah Shurnstein As you can see, Sox are in very good shape...as long as Colon, Burly, Maggs, Konerko, Lee, Olivo, Garland, Wright, Marte, Wunsht, Koch, Gordon, Valentin, Graffanino, Loaiza, Crede do their part, that is. Since I don't give a fllying f*** about Charlotte, Birmigham, Winston-Sale, etc and their records, 95% of junk that constitues "farm depth" simply does not matter . Who cares what BA or ESPN farm analysts think. Even with Barcelo ruined and Fogg/Wells lost, Sox will be fine.

truth or myth?

And what is your point? That Jose has committed 9 errors so he must be the Devil incarnate? What part of "if Jose has been terrible defensively this year...then so have Guzman, Tejada and even Vizquel's because their errors have cost their respective teams ay least as many runs as Jose's cost the Sox, and in case of Teajada, more" don't you get?

Still grasping at straws, I see...that's what happenes when "Jose is a terrible defensive liability" doesn't hold up when you look beyond superficial error totals...Winning? I bet If Konerko, Crede, Ordonez, Lee, Koch, Gordon, White, etc were performing anywhere near their capabilities early on (especially in clutch) in clutch situations, we'd be looking at 30-16. Easily. And Jose hasn't even been playing well yet. Hell if it turns out Jose had a hand in hleping Jimenez getr over himself and play two heads above his carreer averages...that alone would ensure his place in Sox Leadership HOF in my book considering we have nobody else who can step up.

If you were to ask me this question last year, it's Clayton. This year, it's probably a tie all things considered. I know Clayton made 3 awful plays against the Cubs alone that cost Brewers dearly.

But wait, that would actually require people to watch games and use their own baseball judgement when analyzing defensive +/-.....Nah, indiscriminantely throwing error totals out there is so much easier

1. Hold that thought, get back to me in August....though it's still a CHF veen now 2. 22-24 is better than 19-27

I know that...my point was that he probably makes up for his defense with his ...defense, before even taking his bat/running/leadership/popularity into consideration.

If he has another strong second half this time around and Sox cruise into the playoffs, with rise in attendance, I see the Sox picking up his option for 2004. Easily if Manuel stays.

We are talking about roughly 3-4 runs that he must make up for here. I bet his DPs/forceouts/saves alone erase that differential. Then you add his bat (he's been bad at the plate but is still on pace for 83 RBIs out, many of game-deciding variety out fo 2nd spot), his base-running (not until you see Sox fail to score on 3 consecutive singles in Metrodome that you start to appreciate the way he effortlessly scores from 1st on doubles and 2nd on singles and rarely hits into DPs or gets doubled up, taking extra bases on balls in the dirt) and leadership skills (Jimenez comes to mind). At the end Jose's +/- is still way up there.

Roman's post was an instant classic....ROTFLMAO

That's because it's supported by COLD.HARD.FACTS. I suppose the fact that Sox are playing 600+ ball with Jose as everyday SS is also a coincidence... In the ideal world I'd love to have a short-stop who makes no errors, but meanwhile I will gladly take one whose errors lead to least runs. Look up how many runs Tejada, Guzman and Vizquel have "caused" this year. Whatever...all I know is that those batters do not cross the plate for the most part, whether it because Jose erases them with a nift DP or he makes a good forceout play or simply because his errors are usually of 2 out/bases empty variety. But it never will become a "bigger" problem if 2000 (and to lesser extent 2001-2002 when he was moved around) numbers are to be believed. Furthermore, Minnesota game was the only one which Sox would have won if it weren't for Jose's error....and he was the only reason Sox were in the game in the first place...lolol I can live with it of he also turns league-leading DPs, displays a strong arm, runs bases, hits in clutch, etc, etc, etc. . Yeah, "we" pick up after Jose. It's this "magical" quality Sox pitchers possess that Okland (Tejada) pitchers don't....Then how do you account for Jimenez/Crede/Konerko and how many runs their (fewer) errros have brought in?

Hey, don't get me wrongm, if we are talking about Renteria, Tejada, Jeter-type guys, I say do it...But no, if it's not Jose, then it's gonna be Miles or Jimenez and neither of them throws the runner out, no way. They would make as many errors as Jose, cost more runs/games and but would have nowhere near the ability to make a spectacular catch or gun people down and turn DPs... Jose's defense gets bashed too much by people who either don't watch games or can't look beyond/into the stats. He is no Ozzie Smith, but if Sox end up losing this season, it very rarely will be because of his glove.

Say it with me...Jose's "terrible D" has cost the Sox a grand total of 3 (ok, 4 if you wanna stretch it) runs so far this year. Same as Vizquel. Case closed. Jose stays where is. It was a slow grounder deep enough in the hole and should have been an infield single. Many shortstops do not get off as quick and strong a throw in that situation, which means the runner scores, tying the game up. Jose's location wasn't perfect by any means but it was good enough for Paulie to handle. (Speaking of Koneko, how soon do we forget how many runs/games his defense and no range has cost the Sox so far? Way more than Jose that's for sure) Do you realize that the only reason Carlos Lee even came to bat in the 8th is because Jose got a good enough jump from 1st on Frank's pathetic grounder to the pitcher to stay out of the DP? Another thing Jose does well that will never show up in the stats...but at the end can be a difference between winning and losing But whatever.

Blair is a f***ing moron, where does he get the cojones to bring racism into this? Unbelievable! The saddest part is that this smug, charisma-free imbecil is actually PROUD of what he did and expects to get a Hollywood contract/book deals out the "heroic feat" of his.

I could have told you that 3 years ago when it became apparent that Triple Threat has, in fact, nothing.