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QUOTE(WHarris1 @ May 19, 2007 -> 03:24 PM) gonna be a long f***ing day this team sucks 1st 2 innings we get the leadoof guy on and we cant do anything!

wow! just heard the replay on the radio(even though u can hear it on 670thescore.com) that was great!

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ May 18, 2007 -> 05:12 PM) What about bringing MacDougal out to start the 8th after a bad 7th? And after giving up 2 straight hits in the 8th, leaving him in? i think we should all just stop trying to balme someone. it was everyones fault! team effort!

QUOTE(fathom @ May 18, 2007 -> 04:56 PM) Pagan's been crushing the ball over the last two weeks. im not trying to say that he sucks or got lucky. im just saying that any other hitter could have done what he did in that situation. i think everyone knew it was a fastball coming.

QUOTE(fathom @ May 18, 2007 -> 04:51 PM) Pagan has just as much athleticism and skill as any of our outfielders besides Jermaine Dye (I know he's slow, but he has that thing known as hitting talent). ...mac threw a first pitch fastball and he knew it was coming and got a hit. anyone batting would have known it was coming..

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ May 18, 2007 -> 04:48 PM) I'm not mad at Ozzie for today. I think all of you who are wrong as hell, but that's just me. ^^^ bullpen, defense, offense was garbage

QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ May 18, 2007 -> 03:52 PM) Ozzie proving again why he is the single worst manager in baseball. God I hope he doesn't last much longer. ugh, everyone loves to blame ozzie! if mac wasnt pitching so damn bad and gotten the job done, no one would be talking about him! and the defense sucked, hitting, everything, its not ozzie fault

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ May 17, 2007 -> 12:07 PM) Ok, lets leave Ron Santo out of this... mean, but hilarious

QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ May 15, 2007 -> 02:47 PM) I normally pay no mind to these sorts of threads, but, it's an off-day of sorts and I'll play along. Assessing the team as it is currently construed, I think a 2008 roster including the following players is realistic given the White Sox front office's spending tendencies and general baseball philosophies. At this point, I would also add that the following roster resembles a roster I would like to see take the field in 2008. C-Pierzynski C-Toby Hall 1B-Paul Konerko DH/1B-Jim Thome 2B-Tadahito Iguchi SS-Juan Uribe SS/2B-Alex Cintron 3B-Josh Fields 3B-Pablo Ozuna LF-Ryan Sweeney CF-Darin Erstad RF-Ichiro Suzuki OF/Utl- OF/Utl- SP-Mark Buehlre SP-Jose Contreras SP-Javier Vazquez SP-John Danks SP-Open Competition (Masset, Sisco, Gonzalez, Broadway, etc.)/Cheap Free Agent Signing CP-Bobby Jenks RP-Mike MacDougal RP-Matt Thornton RP-Matt Sisco RP-David Aardsma RP-Nick Masset ------------------------------------- So, that assumes Jon Garland, Joe Crede, and Jermaine Dye will not be a part of the 2008 roster--the return on both the Garland and Crede moves are irrelevant for the purposes of this exercise. Some of the logic used to come to those conclusions: -Williams re-signs Buehrle to a historic White Sox pitching contract and Jon Garland and the $11M contract he possess becomes a financial burden and has to be moved off the books. -Jermaine Dye is not a part of this franchise beyond the 2007 season, this is something I think we can all agree with. Ichiro, along with Buehrle, is the big off-season splash and is an essential piece of the puzzle (proven everyday RF and lead-off hitter). -Crede, like Garland, is moved to make room for Fields and rid the White Sox of his contract--I wish this team could have a $170M payroll, but that is just not going to happen. -Mackowiak moved in the off-season for spare parts or minor league talent--his salary becomes a problem given the Ichiro and Buehrle signings. -Iguchi, the starting 2B, was had on the cheap following a disappointing season and is immediately penciled in at the two-hole following Ichiro. If any of the payroll aficionados could estimate the payroll for the aforementioned roster it would be greatly appreciated. What I think you will find is that this conjectured roster and its correlating payroll will be strikingly similar to the payroll of 2007 and therefore more realistic than you might think. Do I think that is a perfect lineup or even a probable lineup? No. But, I think it is something you might see as the White Sox once again find themselves in limbo between a complete rebuilding and a veteran/win-now roster. great post. i hope this happens

QUOTE(BobDylan @ May 15, 2007 -> 01:32 AM) I highly disagree. The Cubs rotation and bullpen would get roasted in the American League. Their defense is nothing to be proud of either. ^^^^^^^

QUOTE(Kalapse @ May 14, 2007 -> 09:22 PM) I want no part of Darin Erstad for $6M or Jermaine for the ~$10M he's going to get. That's a $30M+ outfield right there. i agree(although i dont think, even with the year hes having, that erstad will get 6 mill) QUOTE(briguy27 @ May 14, 2007 -> 09:18 PM) how about this for a batting order for 2008 CF ichiro LF erstad DH thome 1B konerko RF dye C pierzynski 2B iguchi SS uribe 3B fields what i dont like is that, with the exception of ichiro, its the same old lineup

QUOTE(RME JICO @ May 14, 2007 -> 07:52 PM) 2008 C - Pierzynski 1B - Konerko 2B - Castillo SS - Uribe 3B - Fields RF - Sweeney CF - Hunter LF - Anderson DH - Thome i wouldnt like that too much... i think its going to cost more than 12 mill to sign hunter.

QUOTE(joeynach @ May 14, 2007 -> 06:34 PM) Agreed. Iguchi to me looks 100% lost at the plate. Its like he cant decide if hes goin to be a right handed pull power hitter or the situational hitter the ball to all directions hitter that made him a success here. In any event he looks like me at the plate in little league when I was 10; stepping in the bucket, grounding out to 3rd all the time, long flaly swing. Either way there is really no tolerance for this garbage at the big league level. You got something to figure out then u can do so on another team or in AAA. I would love to bring in the switch hitting castillo. all i know is that i dont want the same exact lineup we have this year, next year

QUOTE(Kalapse @ May 14, 2007 -> 06:03 PM) Luis Castillo would be a fantastic pickup though. He's an excellent hitter who could thrive in the 2 hole with his consistently high OBP and ~20 stolen bases. i would love to have him too but isnt he somewhat injury prone?

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ May 11, 2007 -> 09:46 PM) That was probably the worst win I've ever watched. I don't think I've ever watched such a dismal game. That said, kudos to Garland, Thorton and Jenks for shutting down KC. And a win is a win, so no complaining tonight. well we all know how the sox look when they face lhp. a wins a win!

QUOTE(Heads22 @ May 10, 2007 -> 01:13 PM) Ryan, you stay with the team. Luis, leave. but according to oz hes not ready

QUOTE(Alpha Dog @ May 10, 2007 -> 10:10 AM) Sweeney needs to stay, at least until Pods comes back. Even then, I think he should stay. At least for now, him and Erstad seem to be the only ones who have confidence in their abilities. exactly. it doesnt make sense to send sweeney down when thome comes back. when pods comes back yes because he will obviously be the starter and sweeney wont get much playing time. since it will still be little more time until pods comes back, sweeney should obvioulsy stay with the team

QUOTE(Steve9347 @ May 2, 2007 -> 11:25 AM) gee, whats the over under for white sox hits?? 5? i'll take the under. the offense is so fustrating to watch right now

QUOTE(caulfield12 @ Apr 30, 2007 -> 08:35 AM) If you're the D-Rays, you reject BA as part of the deal. You ask for either Fields or Sweeney. At that point, KW is likely to say no, and there's no deal. You can't or probably shouldn't trade Sweeney OR Fields, Logan and Broadway for Rocco Baldelli, because Baldelli's not nearly the caliber of player that Crawford is...and we need what Crawford can do in LF (assuming Pods is "iffy" for the rest of the season) than to replace Erstad. It's a lot cheaper to go out and get a full-time 1B/DH type of player than Rocco Baldelli. why would the rays want sweeney or BA. the reason they want to trade baldelli is because they have too many of'ers and hes the most expensive.

QUOTE(fathom @ Apr 29, 2007 -> 08:48 PM) It will be Sweeney. There's no f***ing excuse for Terrero to make this team other than the fact that Ozzie likes him. but as i mentioned, anderson really struggled playing once a week or so. i dont see how sweeney will do any better. but i have to admit, i was pretty impressed with him when he was called up last year. like ozzie said, he plays the game the right way. i remember him really hustling, going 1st to 3rd, etc.

correct me if im wrong, but we dont have a backup center fielder now or do we? if so, i dont see how perez or fields can help us right now. we need someone to backup erstad, unless we want to see mack out there. it was to hard for anderson to play once a week, so calling sweeney up, who is younger and has less major league exp. makes no sense. so, my guess is that it will be terrero.(sadly)

QUOTE(caulfield12 @ Apr 24, 2007 -> 06:45 AM) http://www.weather.com/outlook/events/spor...&begDay=114 This game looks to be in serious jeopardy at this point. yea, hawk mentioned that yesterday.

QUOTE(greg775 @ Apr 23, 2007 -> 08:35 PM) Erstad wouldn't be as annoying if he batted ninth. I say our lineup should be Uribe Iguchi Thome Paulie Dye Crede

QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Apr 23, 2007 -> 08:32 PM) 3-0 Cleveland. i was thinking about this yesterday for some reason...what ended up happening with politte?

QUOTE(TitoMB345 @ Apr 23, 2007 -> 08:30 PM) Hahaha, I seriously wish I could live one day in the twisted mind of Ozzie or Hawk. It would be a trip of a lifetime. >PK!