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QUOTE (raBBit @ Apr 25, 2017 -> 02:29 PM) I hope the Bears trade down. Such a value in doing so. How does this draft compare to drafts of years' past? Seems to be below average to me but admittedly I am not that learned in this area. I agree. But as others have said, it takes two for a trade.

QUOTE (kevo880 @ Apr 25, 2017 -> 03:21 PM) While I don't think that would be a bad play, with the depth at DB in this year's class, I think they will choose to address that position later. There is depth both those two are impact talent. I know DBs especially safeties don't usually go that high but they are outstanding.

QUOTE (Boogua @ Apr 25, 2017 -> 01:27 PM) If Thomas is there and is tops on their board they should take him. They shouldn't draft for need. I'm not sure what their board looks like and they might have Adams or Lattimore above Thomas, but I'm just saying. Secondaries look a lot better when the quarterback has no time to throw the ball. I'm not saying they are drafting for need. They should never do that. i think those will be the top impact players.

QUOTE (kevo880 @ Apr 25, 2017 -> 12:53 PM) I think it's Watson or Thomas at #3, unless Garrett unexpectedly slips. If it's not a QB (which I don't think it is) it will be Lattimore or Adams. Impact DB at #3.

QUOTE (beautox @ Apr 25, 2017 -> 10:02 AM) If Davidson could develop into a Jesse Barfield / Mark Reynolds type of bat that would be a boon for this organization. You mean if he could play 11 years, hit 240 HR and win a couple of gold gloves? I think any team would take that.

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Apr 25, 2017 -> 10:12 AM) Do you even follow baseball. Clearly you must not if you don't think Jones and Gonzalez at minimum don't have value. People need to stop replying to Greg. I have him on ignore but when you reply to him I read his posts because they appear in your response.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Apr 25, 2017 -> 08:39 AM) Michalczewski has a career .703 OPS in the low minors to AA. That does not inspire much confidence that he ever hits enough to contribute at the mlb level. Peter with a minors career .719 ops and little to no power = utility player at best Alvarez is 27 years old and is a journeyman non-prospect at this point Not trying to be overly harsh on our guys, but none of them are legitimate prospects compared to what we should have taking the field for us at the AA level Returning to baseball only about 3 years ago gives him a break on the age. He is still in the what and see category not the non-prospect category.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Apr 24, 2017 -> 08:27 PM) Good argument by Stoney for a balanced schedule. I think they should go back to the day.s of no divisions. Everybody play everybody and the top six teams make the playoffs. They can even call the last two wildcards and keeps the playoffs like they are now.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Apr 24, 2017 -> 11:11 AM) He's 23 . If they're gonna do it, the time is now. Might as well let him try it to see if he develop into something and have a decent career. You really can't do it mid-season though when he hasn't had any arm conditioning. At best they should keep him as a position player while start conditioning his arm for winter ball. This way he could pitch this winter.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 22, 2017 -> 06:33 AM) He is now out 6-8 weeks but the Giants think it could be longer. With an AC sprain, I don't doubt it for a minute.

QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 21, 2017 -> 09:49 PM) Purely done for 40 man purposes Yeah. I guess this is just another example of "Why bother with anything this season." They are going very conservative with the injuries this year. Normally, the sox have their injured player return earlier than the norm. Not this year.

QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 21, 2017 -> 09:59 PM) Wouldn't it be retroactive though It would be for the sake of the DL time. I guess it depends on how far back it goes. For the injury, once he is out of the boot it shouldn't be more than 3 weeks or so. So does the DL time go back 40 days?

QUOTE (Sleepy Harold @ Apr 21, 2017 -> 07:37 PM) James Fegan‏ @JRFegan 27m27 minutes ago More Charlie Tilson is going to the 60-day DL to clear a 40-man spot. But Hahn says that is not indicative of any change in his recovery timeline Well that's not correct. If he's out of the boot, it doesn't take another month to get ready. He's one that i thought they would want to really see this year.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 21, 2017 -> 04:45 PM) There was a point in the 1970's (and Charlie O'Finely) where the A's literally were trying to sell their best players off to the highest bidder. IIRC, the Yankees were right the front of the line before MLB finally stepped in. At that point, they put some restrictions on cash deals which didn't exist before. I want to say it was in reaction to free agency? That's seems familiar. I think you're right.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 21, 2017 -> 04:09 PM) He'd better hope it isn't serious. That is the same injury that Danks had. It would really suck for him to punt away nine figures because he took a risk. Did Danks have an AC sprain? I know the surgery was for a loose joint capsule.

QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 21, 2017 -> 04:28 PM) I don't understand why that behavior is bad though. It's no different than NBA teams trading for trade exceptions so that they can accept a more expensive player in the future. The receiving team gets something they can use (cash) the seller gives something valuable (allotted space) That said, I doubt a cash trade would be a likely scenario. A player with a small likelihood to succeed is probably still more valuable to a team than 300k. I think it's because you're getting back to the "he with the most money wins." A team could just go around and buy everyone's slot space. All of these rules are to prevent that scenario. Assets need to be traded not money.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Apr 21, 2017 -> 03:54 PM) Madison Bumgarner injures his left shoulder in dirt biking accident, goes on DL. http://www.sfchronicle.com/giants/article/...twitter-premium Ouch, AC sprain. Not good for the pitching shoulder.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Apr 21, 2017 -> 01:36 PM) This is true. Those teams can trade all of their slots. These would be teams that had to pay the penalty for the previous year, correct?

QUOTE (illinilaw08 @ Apr 21, 2017 -> 11:34 AM) IF the Sox scouts think he's a top 25 prospect in the game, I think they need to be willing to go deep into their pockets to get him signed. With the complete lack of obvious impact position talent in the minors after Moncada and (hopefully) Collins, getting a top 25 prospect without giving anything up would be a huge addition to the system. If the Sox scouts love Robert, I'll be very disappointed if the Sox come in second. Absolutely. However, with the wide difference of opinions of the "experts" I don't think this is a given.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Apr 21, 2017 -> 11:25 AM) Some have said Robert is a top 25 prospect the moment he signs somewhere. So I'd sign him in a heartbeat if I was Reinsdorf. Back to the risk discussion, others have said they don't like him as a prospect. So it's up to the evaluation of the Sox scouts to determine if he is worth that amount if the price escalates.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Apr 21, 2017 -> 11:18 AM) Yes all of the money past the $1 million would be taxed. Got it. That's how the numbers made sense but I wasn't sure. So if they offer him 20 million it turns into a 39 million cost.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Apr 21, 2017 -> 11:16 AM) Pitch f/x says he's not throwing more pitches in the zone, but instead he's almost doubled the swings on pitches outside the zone. However his velocity is up a couple ticks and he's doubled his swinging strike rate, so this is definitely an encouraging start. Is this compared to his minor or MLB numbers from previous years?

QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 21, 2017 -> 11:08 AM) We actually signed 20 players, most for basically nothing. Southsidesox says we have $1 million left. So, if we offer 10 million (nice round numbers) we pay effectively $19mill. Negligible, I think the total spend for FA classes is more important. When you are already paying $10 mill in tax another $30 mill can feel worse. If they have 1 million left, is there the 100% tax of all money after the 1 million? I can't find a good resource on the current system. Most of them have an analysis of the new system.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 21, 2017 -> 10:55 AM) I'm all for rallies, and really don't think this guy should have been hit on the head with a u-lock. But, since you justified another person protesting being sucker punched and said the reason she was there was to fight, it's not like this guy didn't know there would be opposition at the rally, so using your logic, he was there for a fight, and he got one, so no problem. A victim is a victim. There is no difference between this guy and the woman. What happened to both was criminal, and both people who committed these crimes should do some serious time. This isn't necessarily true. If they both showed up with weapons and were ready to use them neither is a victim. Rallies are good but not when people show up armed and ready to start the violence.

QUOTE (Sleepy Harold @ Apr 21, 2017 -> 10:41 AM) Jesse Sanchez Article, no real new info, same interested teams covered, but hey it's new Back on topic......How much could the Sox offer without going into the penalty?