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QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Jul 23, 2016 -> 07:06 PM) Because the front office has made themselves look pretty bad for almost 10 years no? LOL. Or have you not seen the records since 2007? They get NONE, Zero, nada benefit of the doubt in most cases because they haven't earned it have they? Mark None of that has anything to do with a players behavior. Yes they haven't been to the playoffs in years. Doesn't mean they are bad people and treat the players in a way that will influence this behavior. Believe it or not good people can be bad at their jobs.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Jul 23, 2016 -> 07:04 PM) Tommy Stokke ‏@StokkeTommy 3m3 minutes ago Not a joke: Source says Sale blowup was because he didn't want to wear throwbacks, so he cut the jerseys up so no one could wear them. IF this is true then that's really stupid by Sale. In this case I can't blame the Sox since this was a big promotional night. I understand the uniforms look like s*** but it's just for one game. Sounds like the trade talk plus another crappy year by the franchise has gotten to him. Mark Still can't believe yo are blaming the sox for his behavior.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Jul 23, 2016 -> 06:58 PM) I guess reading is a skill "I don't think anyone will ever really know what happened but IF Sale went off on Robin, Kenny or Hahn and IF it was because he was tired of the BS, tired of the losing in this screwed up organization..." Everyone else is speculating as well. Don't see why you singled mine out unless you simply are on the front office's side. The same front office that has driven this franchise into irrelevancy the past 10 years. Those are the conditions I'd support him. What actually happened may be different as could my support for him. Mark If we will jever know what really happened why did you respond to a bunch of hypothticals and says if it happened the front office is this. You could just have easily said all of the hypothticals about the front office being in the right and then player being wrong. Why did you choose to pick the group of hypothticals where the front office was made to look bad?

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 23, 2016 -> 06:58 PM) If he did something violent I would agree you have no choice, but that's apparently not the case. Even if he continually verbally abuses them it deserves a punishment.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 23, 2016 -> 06:50 PM) SMH...that's even f***ing worse. Why in god's name do you send him home over something like this? I get that he must have thrown a tantrum, but who the f*** cares. If you're sick of his behavior, then sweep this under the rug and deal him. I can't believe you'd actually come out publicly and announce your prized asset is a psychopath a week before the deadline. If its a continued pattern of behavior, eventually you need to do something about it, especially if he went after a clubhouse attendant or someone like that.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 23, 2016 -> 06:50 PM) There is anger mgmt when you fight over a little kid Only for the one who started the yelling. The other one is just defending himself.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 23, 2016 -> 06:46 PM) About uniforms https://mobile.twitter.com/JulieDiCaro/stat...998668469858305 There is a anger manaement issue if it started over a uniform.

QUOTE (Tony @ Jul 23, 2016 -> 06:41 PM) Maybe they should have tried to put a winning team around him instead of trying to baby him. Probably would have worked out better... They did try...........they just weren't successful.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 23, 2016 -> 06:37 PM) Chuck Garfien‏ @ChuckGarfien I'm hearing the Chris Sale incident was over something "stupid." Might have been a joke about getting traded and he flipped out. The clubhouse attendant probably made a joke about cleaning out his locker and he flipped out.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Jul 23, 2016 -> 06:29 PM) It's turned into some night eh? LOL. I don't think anyone will ever really know what happened but IF Sale went off on Robin, Kenny or Hahn and IF it was because he was tired of the BS, tired of the losing in this screwed up organization, two things: 1. I'll give the guy a standing ovation 2. I can almost guarantee you he'll be traded. JR will stand by "his guys" over one of the best pitchers in baseball. That's so JR, so White Sox. Remember loyalty is far more important than winning or accountability. Again IF he's had it with losing, I can't blame him. About damn time someone on the field cared about it. Mark There are far too many ifs and could bes in this post to be of any use. Just say you don't like the front office and are on Sale's side .

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 23, 2016 -> 06:25 PM) Wonder if they keep Q and trade Sale or unload both. I think they needto keep one. Otherwise it will be a really ling rebuild.

QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 23, 2016 -> 06:21 PM) Or better yet...what if he's working with Aliens who really control all the corporations while using humans for manual labor and the only way you can see them is with special glasses And a metal colander on your head.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 23, 2016 -> 06:12 PM) Seems like this story sets the Sox up for leaking a narrative that Sale forced their hand It does look like that doesn't it. They just had to trade him because he burned too many bridges in the clubhouse.

QUOTE (Knackattack @ Jul 23, 2016 -> 05:55 PM) They've let him throw a few temper tantrums with no repercussions. Just because he is good doesn't mean he can say whatever he wants to upper management and get it thrown around the internet making the whole team look bad. I see it as the proper way to handle it. The first time he was probably told don't do it again or there will be a punishment. This is your one chance. He did it again and there was a punishment. He does it again the punishment escalates.

QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jul 23, 2016 -> 05:44 PM) Jon Morosi ‏@jonmorosi 8s8 seconds ago Chris Sale involved in a "clubhouse incident before the game," team says. #WhiteSox Uhhhhh. Yeah, he cursed out KW and Hahn for attempting to trade some of his buddies.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 23, 2016 -> 05:43 PM) Watch it be he failed a drug test Well he does have that typical PED body.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 23, 2016 -> 11:19 AM) I've outlined a plan to build without him, so have others. I have not seen one single plan on how we can win with him before he leaves before free agency. By all means, share your plan if you have one. Otherwise, don't call rebuilding a fallacy, because it's the only course of action with actual logic to it IMO. I think the plan will be to trade Quintana and Robertson and a few others. I think that is the plan they will use and I think it is the better option than trading both pitchers.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 11:46 PM) Sorry dude, but Bryant >> Sale. I disagree. If a teamwants to win in the post season, pitching is more important.

QUOTE (Deadpool @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 09:28 PM) I would take Schwarber, Contreras, and Baez. I don't necessarily need Bryant. If sale is traded a quality pitcher must be involved in any deal.

QUOTE (Insp @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 09:09 PM) Amazing.....that little Frenchman swinging one of those long loaves of French bread that do not come with any wrapping just got a HR. Little?

QUOTE (Deadpool @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 08:43 PM) KW always wants to compete. He caught lightning in a bottle in 2005 and now assumes the way to win is overpay talent other teams don't want. It's not that he lacks TWTW, it's that he's completely misguided. Overpay? I thought they were too cheap. I get so confused and whiplash as well reading posts.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 08:15 PM) I don't think they have any plans to trade him, and I also don't think they are going to rebuild in the traditional way. They'll use Q to get near MLB ready bats. Agreed.

QUOTE (daggins @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 08:14 PM) I think they've gotten the best offers they're going to get. They aren't going to trade him. I don't think so either. Quintana is most likely gone.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 08:05 PM) No, there are more than enough disgruntled old white dudes around to vote Trump in. But even some of us realize how awful Trump is and won't cross that line. Gary Johnson or bust! I'm on board!

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 08:06 PM) If they trade Sale and Q, they might not win 20 games the rest of the way. you could probably include next year as well.