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***Official MLB Draft 2016 Day 2 Thread***
ptatc replied to southsider2k5's topic in FutureSox Board
QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Jun 10, 2016 -> 12:22 PM) Alex Call, Ball State OF. Not on the top 200 for MLB Of course, he is the first guy drafted that MLB doesn't have an immediate scouting report on. -
QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Jun 10, 2016 -> 12:18 PM) You've said in the past, "If you smoke pot, you will get cancer." You know that is not true. I'm all for education, but please use facts & accurate info. I've never said cancer, I've said you will have a heart attack and is true. It's like saying if you smoke tobacco you will get lung cancer. Is it 100%, no but It is most likely to happen. Same with pot and coronary heart disease leading to a heart attack.
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QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Jun 10, 2016 -> 12:01 PM) Well, according to the coroner it did not. You have an agenda against pot. I don't have an agenda. Just want to educate. Edit: Let me re-phrase that. I have an agenda is to educate about the health issues. People can do what they want to but they also need to understand there are some health issues. It's like tobacco on PEDS. It's not a direct killer. As far as the coroner is concerned there have been many studies since the time. I think he would change his mind at this point, like many others thought at that time.
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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jun 10, 2016 -> 11:50 AM) But didn't his family also have a history of heart attacks at early ages? Yes, that was a contributing factor as why it was so early as well. His was so young that there were alot of risk factors that contributed.
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QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Jun 10, 2016 -> 11:46 AM) Marijuana had nothing to do with Kile's death. Yes, it did. The coronary heart disease was off the charts for a guy his age.
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QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jun 10, 2016 -> 11:42 AM) Eaton Melky Frazier CaGo/Bruce Abreu Lawrie Navarro Jackson Anderson Who loves that lineup? *raises hand* I think you leave Jackson at 2 where he's been hitting well.
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QUOTE (Jake @ Jun 10, 2016 -> 10:55 AM) I thought I had heard about the NCAA changing up those rules recently. Am I wrong about that? Could be. I don't keep up on that as much.
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QUOTE (Black_Jack29 @ Jun 10, 2016 -> 11:17 AM) No, the challenge for young players is hitting ML pitching. Just about all of them can field their positions well by the time they get called up. Marcus Semien says hello.
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QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jun 10, 2016 -> 11:15 AM) Wonder how Latos took it They are patching the drywall as we speak.
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QUOTE (farmteam @ Jun 9, 2016 -> 12:06 PM) I've heard this before, but not any indication on what's considered "consistent." As in, number of times per week, over how long of a time period? And is it only current use, or cumulative effect of a lifetime? Also, I thought one of the issues with marijuana being schedule I was that we couldn't do a lot of studies on it? Or does this information come from outside the US? Anyone who thinks there aren't negative side effects to weed is either an idiot or ignorant. But being able to research the actual effects is important. The research studies are mostly done with the THC as a chemical. There is also clinical evidence such as studies on people who die young from heart attacks. An athlete example was Darryl Kile from the Cardinals who died during his playing career from a heart attack.
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QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jun 10, 2016 -> 10:54 AM) I'm not too worried about Anderson's bat skills transferring. I just hope his defense is ready It's the hitting worries for me. Lots of Ks.
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QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 10, 2016 -> 10:53 AM) Unbelievable. (had to be done) Excellent!
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QUOTE (shipps @ Jun 10, 2016 -> 10:52 AM) LOL I will make sure to give Kenny his credit when Tim performs well. Both of them.
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QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jun 10, 2016 -> 10:45 AM) Hahn ain't f***ing around. Guess this is a move people like. If he struggles will people blame KW for bringing him up too soon as a typical KW move.
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QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Jun 10, 2016 -> 10:12 AM) I'd rather see the Ass Ponys. Butthole Surfers were a fun concert back in the day.
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QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jun 10, 2016 -> 10:11 AM) He hasn't signed yet though. Just agreed to terms which is great. I don't think he could actually play for Miami this weekend otherwise. Hadn't though of that you're right. He can't even have an "agent" yet just an "advisor."
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QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 10, 2016 -> 09:52 AM) If it plays well, it will be awesome, because not only does he look like an awesome movie casting of a baseball player, but also swings like gary Sheffield which is how every kid my age tried to swing growing up. There's a really bad joke there somewhere.
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QUOTE (shipps @ Jun 10, 2016 -> 09:51 AM) One of things that worries me is I really hope this isnt another move of urgency from the FO. Rushing a guy up who you arent totally sold into being ready just because you think he may bring some offense to the team is so dangerous. This kid cannot be thought to be the savior here. He might be wanting to be the savior knowing that the team is struggling which is overwhelming for a young kid. Even for the best of the best prospects in the league. As I said earlier, I agree. Let's hope this is because they truly think he is ready.
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QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 10, 2016 -> 09:46 AM) Yeah, we have to keep that in mind though and hope to see adjustments in september. Let's just keep special attention to teh times where his fast hands adjust mid pitch to make contact with the ball. Also, it seems he struggles for a month or so at each level and then starts to adjust. It may be longer at the top level, so let's hope his confidence stays with him.
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QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jun 6, 2016 -> 01:17 PM) Its things like this that make you realize you really should just stay the hell away from big ticket free agency and focus your resources on cost-controlled players (via trade) and drafting and development and buying out known commodities good years. Missing on this type of deals can totally set a franchise back where as having a prospect bust doesn't necessarily financially jeopardize your team from contending, etc. You see far fewer teams win because of the game of FA then the other way around. If you are going to be a medium payroller and smaller franchise, you really can't intend on competing unless you really nail it on the draft, development and savy trade equation and than playing a little bit of lotto on shorter term / lower profile FA signings which fit defined needs. This is why the big payroll teams have the advantage. If you look at the salary figures for each team, look at the salaries on the DL. Big payroll teams can absorb it and have other players. look at the cubs. They lose Schwarber, but don't miss a beat because they could spend on Heyward. Without Heyward, Soler would already have been a starter.
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QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 10, 2016 -> 09:34 AM) I think this is too soon for Anderson. We'll see. Hopefully, they are confident he's ready to learn in the MLB. It doesn't mean he needs to be an All-Star right away. He just needs to show the ability and hoefully the progress. Let's hope the media doesn't "shields" him and create too much hype around it.
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QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jun 10, 2016 -> 09:32 AM) He better play almost every day if we are pulling him up here. Absolutely. Maybe giving him a break if there is a certain pitcher they think will be really tough on him. Other than that it should be everyday, struggles or not
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QUOTE (skooch @ Jun 10, 2016 -> 09:20 AM) whitesoxdave @barstoolWSD Just confirmed Tim Anderson has been called up If true, let's hope it's because they think he's ready not just a stunt to get fans excited about something.
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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 9, 2016 -> 08:46 PM) Main point: KW would take Lewis 98 times out of 100 if he was running the draft. Maybe 99. http://m.mlb.com/cws/video/topic/8878818/v...ds-in-the-draft I'll just allow Hostetler to make my point for me, in terms of HIS philosophy approaching the draft... It's a good thing KW has absolutely no say in putting hostetler in his position. Wait Hahn really doesn't do anything but let KW run the show. But then who put Hostetler in this position? JR's administrative assistant?
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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 9, 2016 -> 08:33 PM) http://m.mlb.com/news/article/183086774/ml...ctions-analysis Read Callis' comments about Collins and Lewis. Clearly, KW is no longer calling the shots. Hostetler basically forecast this is you were reading between the lines, talking about finding refined/professional hitters with good plate discipline...at impact positions. At first, I was pissed off, but then I considered our track record with these types of prospects (other than Trayce) and at least it's NEW direction, even if we might not always agree about taking the "best" (however that's defined) player available. White Sox coaching staff, particularly those with expertise in catching, will be on the job right away in Rookie Ball. Jim Thome will also likely become one of his mentors in a hurry. A little concerned with the comments about his athletic ability being below that of Kyle Schwarber, but we'll just have to wait and see. It's also likely that Lewis wasn't going to be able to stick in CF, more likely ending up in RF. So you have the Sox finally going with the higher floor/lower ceiling guy instead of totally swinging for the fences. Also going with the player from the much more competitive conference, as opposed to Mercer, where Georgia Southern (Beck/Joey Hamilton/Todd Greene) has typically been one of the best teams historically. Finally, let's keep in mind the Braves passed on Lewis, who practically plays in their backyard of Macon. Heck, they had a team in the Sally League in Macon for years and years and years. Hostetler worked for the Braves for quite awhile, so you can be 100% sure that he's familiar with both Lewis and Collins, since all Braves' scouts have mastery over the Southeast Region in terms of their networks/contacts/connections. At any rate, hope it all works out in the end. We desperately need help at catcher, and have failed for decades to develop our own player there....and that position has been a black hole since AJ's prime faded. Lewis may have boosted his stock more in the past year than any college prospect for the 2016 Draft. Undrafted out of a Georgia high school in 2013, he played sparingly as a freshman before nearly winning the Southern Conference Triple Crown and then starring in the Cape Cod League in 2015. He repeated as SoCon player of the year in 2016 while contending for the NCAA Division I lead in batting and home runs, making it a virtual lock that he'll become the first first-rounder ever from Mercer. With his leverage and bat speed, Lewis has easy pop to all fields. His swing is busier than most scouts would like, but his approach is generally sound and he tied for the D-I lead with 66 walks entering NCAA tournament play. Lewis is a fringy runner out of the batter's box, but he has solid speed once he gets going. Some evaluators think he has a chance to stay in center field, but most believe he's destined for right field, where he could develop into a serious home run threat with average or better tools across the board. www.mlb.com NOTICE that Lewis was one of those rare "toolsy" guys who was also leading NCAA Division 1 in walks. And yet they still passed...and one would think a lot of those walks were intentional or pitching around him, which won't happen nearly as much in professional baseball. Unbelievable...... KW's drafts were ripped for years for taking the safe high floor guys, before they shifted focus. Now they go back to it and he's ripped again. I think it's JR's administrative assistant again making picks.
