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QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 25, 2016 -> 11:02 AM) Eh, he still left it open that "people need second chances." I still think its funny. Its very funny if he referenced a moral compass for players in the past?

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 25, 2016 -> 11:08 AM) Why don't the Rangers, Red Sox, Blue Jays, Indians, Orioles or Astros care enough about this issue to protest? I guess we win the most politically active/protesting award for the AL this year. Why didn't the Twins, Angels and Rays protest? It doesn't mean they are a good team because they didn't protest.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 25, 2016 -> 09:59 AM) Yeah, Q definitely has that "ocra" about him... The Delta State Fighting Ocra!

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 25, 2016 -> 10:50 AM) It is pretty ironic as well that Theo basically said he would never acquire a guy like Chapman because of his "moral compass" Did he really say that? Thats more than ironic, thats bordering on political speak.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Jul 25, 2016 -> 10:37 AM) They have the money to sign him for whatever he wants. He is not a rental to them. Its not the money available its if he will sign the extension. The deal probably started out as the one player if he wouldnt sign an extension and is growing to more players if he signs the extension.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 10:54 PM) MJ might've gotten his father wacked and nobody in Chicago gave a damn then or now as the titles were rolling in. That was a might have based on some conspiracy theory and circumstantial information. There is no doubt about what Chapman did.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 07:27 PM) Under the system that they like, the clubhouse manager controls 100% of the dues and tips; he uses it to buy the food and give money to the underlings. Under what they don't like, the clubhouse manager takes 40% for himself, and then the organization takes the 60% to guy food and pay the underlings. I don't know if the are right or wrong, but concentrate on baseball, please. The issue is that in all other ballparks the clubhouse guy controls all the money and after buying the food and such distributes it to the other clubhouse staff. In this case he only controls 40% while the team controls 60%. The white sox want their dues and tips to stay in under clubhouse control not going to the team to control. Essentially the team is determining who gets the tips not the clubhouse manager. I can't believe people have a problem with the players sticking up for the "little guys" in the clubhouse. The players want their tips to go to the guys for which they are intended.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 05:55 PM) Ha good song but not the one I'll be using. I was wondering if anyone was going to catch the double use of the phrase. I should have figured you would. Your song is better.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 05:01 PM) So the clubhouse manager collects all dues and tips, then redirects 40 percent(!!!!) to himself, and the Sox are jerks for saying that is bulls***? I agree with them. It's not that. It's usually the clubhouse manager collects them all and after paying for the food and such he distributes it among the rest of the clubhouse staff. What Seattle is doing is only letting him handle 40% because he must give 60% of the money to the Mariners front office and then they determine how it is distributed. In other words the clubhouse staff do not have control of the money that the visiting players are giving to the clubhouse staff.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 06:00 PM) I think the sox get Moncada because Quintana or Sale aren't rentals. The value is there to give him up. It will be interesting to see if dombrowski folds.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 03:55 PM) I'd like to trade Sale before Q. Sale's the ace; but he should bring a lot more...a lot to rejuvenate the team. Q is signed for one more year and will help while rebuilding and then after rebuilt. I also like his smooth delivery - looks like he can pitch til he's 35 or 40. A good steady arm while rebuilding. And then too much drama around Sale. You do make a good point. They need to shop both and then make the call on which deal is better given the contract situation of both pitchers and the production level of each. Ithink it will be tough as both should bring a good return but sale is better than Quintana while quintana is signed for anextra year of control.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 05:24 PM) Nice...maybe they can finish the year over .500...maybe. Mark Shiny, happy, people in the win thread.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 03:40 PM) Their opinion is legit. Just seems like they let things escalate too much Doesn't sound like it. They had a complaint, took it to the proper authorities and were unsatisfied with the outcome. They took measures to protect the "staff." They didn't break any rules and i'm sure they tipped the staff personally.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 04:06 PM) If this was his last game as a sox starter, it was a pleasure Q! Will always root for you because you were one of if not my favorite players on this team. Agreed. One of them should go and I think it will be him.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 03:01 PM) Why can't we draft, trade, or sign one eventually? If we have top 5 picks for a few years, we'll have a great chance at landing one. And if you deal Sale and Quintana, you're probably targeting a potential TOR starter in one of the deals. Plus we have Rodon and Alec Hansen (wild card) with ace potential already in the system. I don't think there is a great chance. These guys don't come along often. Even if you draft one, he's 4-5 years away minimum. All prospects have potential, Sale and Quintana are there. Hansen is 4 years away even if he makes it, which is far from a given.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 02:40 PM) Of course he'll say that. I'm sure he'll try but the Sox will get him. They dont HAVE to move either SPs. It's all a game of cat 'n mouse and smoke 'n mirrors game. I agree. That is why he won't be traded there.

QUOTE (bschmaranz @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 02:51 PM) Um.... so what happens in 3 years when they're still nowhere near a world series and won't give either $25+ million a year? No offense dude but that sounds like Kenny Williams. Yes, because KW is known for trading his top pitchers. The hardest commodity to find are top pitchers. Why trade all of them away when you can trade one, get back talent and make a run in two years? i don't think you understand how difficult it will be to find pitchers like Sale and Quintana.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 03:27 PM) Nice to see these guys continue to be focused on winning I do agree with their objection to this one. At least Sale controlled himself and didn't attack the food table with a knife.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 12:54 PM) Agreed. DD will get his guy. Whether it's Q or Sale. Moncada has to be in either deal. I believe, he was quoted as moncada will not be included in any deal.

QUOTE (bschmaranz @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 12:49 PM) I don't get why we would deal one and not the other. Wouldn't moving both make more sense? Because then the team will not have a World Series shot for 5-7 years with no proven top of the rotation pitcher. they need to keep one.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 01:39 AM) Watch this and tell me you don't want him traded. http://m.tmz.com/#video/0_ior3ya9i/ He's no Black Jack with Stick Figure, that's for sure.

QUOTE (Black_Jack29 @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 10:29 AM) Mental midget. Trade him. If that's how he reacted to the guy who is thinking about trading him, imagine how he would react to the pisters on this board who WANT to trade him.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 09:40 AM) It was no doubt a stupid, immature, ridiculous thing to do. But years from now, everyone will be laughing about it. True, but yesterday Sale thought it was more important to show an utter lack of respect for others, including teammates.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 09:47 AM) If Sale was that uncomfortable in it, the answer is yes. Whether he truly was or not, only he knows. If it truly was that big of a deal, he could have pitched today. They could have used the ill excuse. To me it shows a mental weakness in sale. I have never heard anyone use the uncomfortable uniform excuse for performance. He just didn't want to wear them and this is how he thought it was appropriate to punish the people who were going to make him do it.

QUOTE (jasonxctf @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 08:50 AM) #teamsale #imwithhim The dude cares more about winning then some marketing event. And quite frankly he's one of the only guy's on this team that's performed day- in/out during the multi-year s*** storm. Reminds me of that scene in Vegas vacation. "I'm tired of this s***. I want something better!!!" Yes, so the proper response is to use a knife to destroy the property of others..