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QUOTE (flavum @ Jan 3, 2013 -> 11:26 AM) I popped in the final game at Comiskey Park over the weekend, and it was interesting to see the White Sox players-- Fisk- future Hall of Famer Thomas- rookie- future Hall of Famer Sosa- traded to the Cubs a year later, steroids allowed him to hit over 600 HR Guillen- future Sox manager. 15 years later, won the World Series Ventura- rookie, future Sox manager Calderon- murdered Fletcher- Sox 2B, daughter would later marry Sox future 2B who was 4 when this game was played Johnson- One Dog one of a few to play for Sox, Cubs, Yankees and Mets McDowell- future Cy Young winner The Mariners also had a young Ken Griffey Jr, his dad, and Omar Vizquel who could be the last active player to play in Comiskey Park. The final out was Harold Reynolds who is still around at MLB Network. Didn't you see me sitting in right field with a tear in my eye?

QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Jan 3, 2013 -> 07:15 PM) Saw this joke in another forum... Eli Manning, Jay Cutler, Tony Romo and Ben Roethlisberger walk into a bar... They see four girls and go to pick them up. Cutler immediately says something stupid and another guy intercepts his girl. Eli is failing miserable and everyone is laughing at him but somehow the girl leaves the bar with him. Romo is just about to score but inexplicably starts talking about the time he had herpes and strikes out. While Romo is leaving he asks Ben how come he is still there? Ben says he's still waiting for the drug to take effect. And if Tom Brady was with them, (wasn't available since he's in the playoffs) he would've left with all four of the hotties! The punchline for Brady should be: Brady would get one of them pregnant but leave with the others.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 3, 2013 -> 01:50 PM) One remarkable thing pt...I think almost everyone here would agree with your sentiment in this post: I certainly would also...and I'd be one of the ones called government-lovers by Duke. There's a lot of places, particularly at the state and local levels, where things could be improved by reducing government interference. Take some time and go through the number of licenses that municipalities have for different types of businesses and you've got great examples. My standard tends to be...I want a good reason before I demand government action. Its a cost-benefit calculation in my view. Just to take this case...when the cost of having people armed with assault style rifles is 20 dead kids...and I can't fathom a single benefit other than some vague "You're ready if the US Army comes after you!"...I lean quite strongly towards a strong regulation. I just don't think that anything with more regulations will make much of a difference. Maybe a magazine size regulation. But honestly, anyone willing to plan and commit mass murder will find a way with illegal weapons or home made bombs.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 3, 2013 -> 01:43 PM) I still think there was a lot of injury worry in teams, particularly the Royals, passing on him, although I'm never going to find the source that said so. I believe you are correct. Many teams passed on him due to mechanics and durability issues, although it's not the mechanical issues that I think he has issues with.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 3, 2013 -> 01:31 PM) Advocating for a limited government is different than saying the only reason we haven't been trampled under the boot of tyranny is because of guns, or bizarrely arguing that Japan's domestic gun control laws had anything to do with their East Asian and Pacific conquests. I agree. That's why I said some of them are radical. However, in many of the post he refers to the primary reason is to keep the federal government from taking too much control of everything. That's he calls many posters "government lovers" or says many poster equate government with God.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jan 3, 2013 -> 01:19 PM) And we're just working with assumptions that skinny guys can't be durable I take it? I'm more concerned with the way he gets into the arm slot. He keeps his hand down for a really long time then whips it up into the "cocked" position. Then has to rush to come forward. That really quick movement from arm down to up makes me worried about shoulder issues. His elbow is in a good spot but if someone develops shoulder issues it can always lead to elbow problems by compensation. His long arms and this whip action are what gives me pause about his durability. He handled it well last year with planned breaks. I would expect that they will handle him the same this year. They will need planned breaks for him and Quintana so they really need to plan on 6 starters. Any team with playoffs aspiration should do this anyway.

QUOTE (Lamar Johnson 23 @ Jan 2, 2013 -> 10:00 AM) I understand the importance of having an ace on your staff, but, IMO, players that can help you win every day are more important than those that can help you win every 5th (or 6th) game. (ie. Cabrera > Verlander) Good pitching usually wins in the playoffs. Cabrera may be more important in the regular season (I still disagree) but the Ace pitcher is more important to win the World Series.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 3, 2013 -> 12:01 PM) bookmark these posts so that when you stop being a libertarian in a few years you can look back and laugh. Duke's post are very radical however I still agree with his main point. Federal government should not have too much control or regulation in general. This is just one issue but it applies to everything.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 3, 2013 -> 12:27 PM) Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet #Bears are 1st team to put in an interview request for #Colts OC Bruce Arians, I'm told. Won't be the last. #Chargers among those interested I really like him. He was an outstanding OC in Pit and Indy. I don't know if he is HC material but he is an innovative offensive mind. **3,000 posts** isn't 3,000 a lock for the HOF? Oh, wait. That's hits.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jan 3, 2013 -> 11:03 AM) It could be bad though. If you go too wide and can't make up your mind, the top guys could come off the board. That said, I'd have to imagine he has his idea as to who his top candidates will be and their is no harm interviewing as long as you move swiftly. To me these are the guys I'd be dissapointed if Emery didn't have a conversation with them: 1. Holmgren 1b. Cowher (probably won't even interview but you better damn well call his agent and ask) 2. Reid (looks like they won't chat) 3. Gruden (not sure I'd hire him, but should at least reach out and have a conversation) 4. Mike McCoy (that is happening) 5. Bill O'Brien (really really good candidate; not sure you can get him but have to try to have the convo) 6. Shanny (like him a lot) Should probably also reach out to the top OC candidates out their as well (not mentioned above). E.g,. Clements, Carmichael. I bet he doesn't interview the top 4 on your list. They don't want the re-tread whether it's for power or money.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jan 2, 2013 -> 10:22 PM) Ya exactly. Drafting by need in baseball makes no sense, drafting by need in football is essential. This is very short-sighted and should onlybe true in later rounds. In the early rounds you take the impact player regardless of position. Look at Green Bay this year. They had many wide recievers and Drafted Cobb because he was the best player. Turns out they needed him due to injuries and Jefferies may leave because of it. You draft the impact player. Now as I said the Bears have such a glaring need I would be tempted to go O-line all the way. However if you pass on say a D-line or LB you may miss the next impact player you need in a year.

QUOTE (GoodAsGould @ Jan 2, 2013 -> 08:53 PM) I buy that in baseball draft, take best player or highest rated pitcher on your board, but in the NFL and especially first couple of rounds you do need to look into your needs unless someone comes along that isn't passable. I think it's more important in football due to injuries and the relatively short average career of the players.

QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Jan 2, 2013 -> 08:23 PM) The 4 I'm looking at have him at 19, 26, 30, and 31. And while I have them open... They project the Bears to take. Walterfootball- Alec Ogletree, ILB, Georgia Drafttek & CBS(Rob Rang)- Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan CBS(Dane Brugler)- Lane Johnson, OT, Oklahoma With the injury rate in the nfl you always draft the best player available regardless of position. However with the state of the Bears O-line it's really difficult not to take the best tackle available.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jan 1, 2013 -> 04:40 PM) I'm from rural Illinois and I don't think my reps have ever represented me. They go in there to push their ideology... And that's okay. What else would they do? This is true. His point was that many committees make decisions, so there is not input from every member. My point was that no decision would ever be made if 100 or more people had to be in on everyone before it made it to the floor. This is where the idea of "not every view was represented" came from.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 1, 2013 -> 02:37 PM) But that is our form of representative government. I don't feel that i should lose my representation in Congress and be left only with someone to vote "yes/no" on major bills. I agree in concept. But in reality that would get absolutely nothing done. I'm from a rural area here in Illinois. Believe me I want all views represented. Illinois politics is ruled by Chicago because of this. However, too many people trying to make one decision will lead to more indecision and no action.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 1, 2013 -> 11:54 AM) why should the process of governing be less democratic and less represenative? Why shouldn't everyone's Senators and Representatives have input into the process instead of just a select handful? I understand the sentiment that everyone should be represented however, nothing would ever get done. It's hard to get anything done with 10 people in one meeting let alone 100.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 28, 2012 -> 10:54 AM) Personally, the "As soon as it's official and AJ is gone, so we will start bashing him and telling some supposed stories out of school" routine, doesn't work for me. AJ was so hated and no one could play for him, that he signed 3 or 4 White Sox contracts. Rozner, who I really like, and Speigel, should be embarrassed they spent their show with this crap. Now, if they want to have someone actually speak on the record, that could be different. It's very common for all the garbage to come out about a player after they leave. Many reporters will keep things quiet while the player is is in town to maintain the relationship. However, as was said Rozner has always told stories about AJ. Many pitching coaches haven't liked him because he would call his own game regardless of what others, including the coaches thought. He was right many times, depending on the coach.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 04:58 PM) Im sure im not the only one that has had to wiggle out from under a barbell on the bench. I had a patient once who dropped one on the bridge of her nose and it shattered most of her facial bones. She had to have reconstructive surgery. So people do need to be careful.

I see the White Sox brought Andy Gonzalez back. This could be the big move we were waiting for.

QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 07:41 PM) Any deal that is well above any sort of criticism. That will never happen on this board. Someone will always hate the move.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 05:25 PM) Like just a few months ago, I think after this season it became official. I'm glad it happened now not in the 90's. I would have hated to have to turn down the job.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 02:48 PM) Meghan Montemurro ‏@M_Montemurro OF Nate Schierholtz officially agreed to 1-year contract w/Cubs. LHP Gerardo Concepcion cleared waivers & outrighted to Single-A Kane County Wasn't that the guy the Cubs signed from Cuba last year? When did the Kane County Cougars become a Cubs affiliate? When I worked there it was the Marlins and then it went to the A's.

QUOTE (Reddy @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 08:12 AM) Really? I didn't know that. That's a super useful bit of information. Interesting... Yes. If you only concentric (positive work) activity, there will be minimal to no soreness however, the mass and strength gains will also come much slower.

QUOTE (Jake @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 10:14 AM) Important note - certain lifts need a spotter when you do negatives! Yes, they do.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 12:52 PM) Again...people in this very thread have explained why it is vitally important to them to have their guns at home unlocked, loaded, and easily accessible. And in this case, it was a 20 year old. If his mother had secured her weapons better, he could have walked into Walmart and bought the same guns, unless he's been committed to a mental institution. Some people have said that not everyone. I've stated repeatedly that guns at home should be locked up.