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QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 9, 2006 -> 10:44 AM) We all know that Ozzie isn't going to change the starting rotation. That's been obvious all season. But did he really have to make comments like that regarding McCarthy? I just don't get why he has to bash McCarthy for a rookie year campaign in which he improved drastically his 2nd time up from the minors. I think he's just getting sick of hearing it. You're right, he probably shouldn't have been so blunt.

QUOTE(mreye @ Aug 9, 2006 -> 10:25 AM) I've got no problem with a hat or something, but an entire uniform? That's just creepy. Well, yeah. Unless I was on the roster, I wouldn't wear an entire unform. That's fine for 6 year old kids, but an adult?

QUOTE(rowand @ Aug 9, 2006 -> 10:23 AM) Mark should be given 1 more chance to start. If he throws well, he can stay in the rotation. If not, why not put him in the bullpen? He has done it before and succeeded. He is much better suited for the bullpen than McCarthy, a career starter. Ozzie, shut the hell up. You continue to cut down Mc - "Hes not friggin Cy Young", and "He pitched bad for us last year, check the stats". CHECK YOUR F IN MOUTH OZ. He is the future. He has excelled when he gets to START. Throw JD into center field and see what happens. He won't be as well as he would be in right, where he has played. Buehrle is flexible and his arm is tired. Let him be an effective lefty out of the bullpen. We will need him in this stretch. I would do it now, but Ozzie may need another poor start to see it. Why not change it now when it looks like the team may be about to turn the corner? Come on Oz, let's be a manager instead of a player. Ozzie is managing. He's showing one of his main players that he'll stick with him through his slump rather than give in to irrational rants from fans and media about an unproven kid who may be good, but may not be. People are talking about Brandon like they did about Garland 5 years ago. It took Garland 4 years to become an above .500 pitcher. Buehrle is roughly 30 games over .500 in his career. Ozzie doesn't need to check his f'in mouth.

QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Aug 9, 2006 -> 10:23 AM) i dont give a darn about baseball business. at this point, JD has earned it, and to hell with what business says, reward him for what he has done and lock him up for a few more years. Two years from now, you'll have an old, slow ballclub with untradeable, overpaid veterans. If you are in the front office, you have to give a damn about baseball business. If you are just a fan, you can let your heart influence your opinions.

QUOTE(Hangar18 @ Aug 9, 2006 -> 08:58 AM) during a football game. What made the article ridiculous, was the fact that Cub fans doing the Wave on Sunday prompted the article. Like its never been done in Chicago before, or elsewhere for that matter. I was thinking it was an A's game.

No. You do not sign a 33-34 year old to a long term high dollar deal. You trade them before they start showing signs of age for good young ballplayers. Pick up the option next year, and see what happens. If he's playing well and the team isn't, trade him to a contender. As Branch Rickey said, it's better to trade them a year too soon than a year too late.

QUOTE(tonyho7476 @ Aug 9, 2006 -> 09:58 AM) Yeah, people on this site think its only a game.

I see no problem with attending a game, any MLB game, and wearing Sox gear. So, I won't critcize a fan of another team for flying their colors at the Cell. Damn people, it's only a ballgame.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Aug 9, 2006 -> 08:46 AM) *puts on Mod hat* You two (Hangar and JimH) need to stop. Now. Let the thread continue on its own, not as a forum for your tiff. Take it to PM or email or the bike racks. Thank you. I came in here and started reading this s*** and I was ready to put the hammer down on both of 'em and let the mods and admins sort it all out. But, it appears they took your warning to heart and desisted. Smart move on both of their parts.

QUOTE(chimpy2121 @ Aug 9, 2006 -> 03:42 AM) I was readin the game thread and didn't see any mention of this...no one else saw Joe Torre fall flat on his face when he was going up the stairs to argue that DP call did they? I saw it. It looked like he hurt his left hand when he reached down to break the fall.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Aug 8, 2006 -> 08:02 PM) I may be wrong here, but didn't the wave originate during the 1984 NLCS games at San Diego, the 3 game string in which the Cubs blew a 2-0 lead and lost a chance to win the pennant?? I wasn't born yet so I figured i'd ask, but I think that's why Cubs fans especially dislike the wave. No. It was started and coordinated by some guy in Oakland.

QUOTE($I Need Money$ @ Aug 9, 2006 -> 01:42 AM) why because you dont think the white sox will win this year? the text is stayin. nice sig btw Want to place a little wager on that?

Paulie's slam will have to settle for being my 2nd favorite play. The Final Out will always be number one.

QUOTE(Punch and Judy Garland @ Aug 9, 2006 -> 12:35 AM) Yeah its hard to say. Wasn't there one out when Ozuna ran? A-Rod showed later the advantage of the two out steal as you don't have to peer in for the double play. How many feet did our guys have to get thrown out by for us to consider puttiing the red light up? I agreed with Ozuna coming in so that he could score on a gapper and that is a normal running situation but all night we showed that Posada had us beat by 6 feet In general, you're right. The baserunning has been poor this year. However, mrzo makes a good point. And, Ozuna did look like he was thinking h&r as opposed to straight steal. Hawk didn't mention it, but I caught him looking in toward the plate.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Aug 8, 2006 -> 11:32 AM) I don't see how we're going to win against Wang with Garcia pitching. Oh, ye of little faith ...

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Aug 9, 2006 -> 12:42 AM) 8 different closers have now blown saves against the Sox this year, the list includes Ryan Dempster, Bob Wickman, Eddie Gaurdado, Chris Ray, Huston Street, BJ Ryan, Jonathan Papelbon and Mariano Rivera. Not bad. The Sox have some damn good fastball hitters and most closers live or die with their heaters. Once we get the starters out of the game, we usually do some damage against the opposing bullpen.

I think I could help us more by playing Jim Leyland for a week

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Aug 2, 2006 -> 06:15 PM) Seriously, people need to learn how to post with proper spelling and grammar. I already bring down the site with about 34000 + posts of pure unadultrated grammatic filth. We really can't afford to have anyone else doing so You lead by example.

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Aug 3, 2006 -> 11:11 AM) Or he was just pitching in a gigantic stadium against subpar offenses with pitchers in the 9 hole and aboslutely no pressure on him. THat's the key right there.

QUOTE(Yoda @ Aug 3, 2006 -> 06:00 PM) Loaiza also lost velocity on his fastball after that '03 season. He's never been the same since . . . Loaiza got lazy ... as evidenced by the fact he suddenly found his fastball for the All Star game while he was auditioning for Joe Torre and the Yankee contingent. Methinks that's what's happening with Garcia as well.

QUOTE(Capn12 @ Aug 3, 2006 -> 02:30 AM) Which is honestly quite an amazing feat, considering he had given up 19 in his first 77 IP!! See what keeping the ball down will do for a pitcher?

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Aug 2, 2006 -> 11:19 AM) Um, the American revolution would be yet another example of how you cannot put an insurgency down by force. Every example I gave was an example of a more powerful country trying to put down a guerrilla insurgency with overwhelming force, and failing dramatically, just as happened with the British. WTF was I thinking when I said that? on me

Isn't every revolution an insurgency against an established nation? There are plenty of examples throughout history of successful revolutions. One in the 1770's stands out in my memory of history.

QUOTE(Chisoxrd5 @ Aug 2, 2006 -> 11:04 AM) I see no way you actually thought I was serious Damn. Sorry, I was on the phone when I read that. Didn't even see the

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Aug 2, 2006 -> 11:01 AM) Yeah, with the day off tomorrow and the flight to Canada, I'd be shocked if we don't just give Kong and Thome today off. Hopefully the offense and Freddy step it up, although as long as Freddy is throwing a Greg Maddux velocity fastball, I'm still worried about him. I agree, but Freddie has been known to step up in tough games ... see Game 4 of the Series ... and maybe, just maybe, getting into a tough game may make him realize he's been skating and not working hard enough. I hope that's the problem, and not the fact that he's unable to pitch anymore.