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QUOTE (WSoxMatt @ May 9, 2008 -> 10:31 PM) 4th loss in a row for the M's...9 of their last 10 Let's kick 'em while they're down.

It's a W ... I'll take it.

Jenks ERA 2.03 Sexton's BA .203

QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ May 9, 2008 -> 10:16 PM) Thats one thing but the words sexual harassment and sexist were thrown around loosely in that thread. People commenting on the character of the players and saying they should be embarrassed for making female reporters feel "uncomfortable" in the mens locker room. Dollgate wasnt a big deal and obviously means nothing in terms of the teams character or views on women which was everyone elses point but people were too quick to jump all over them for having fun. Those words weren't thrown by me. I commend the act, not the players.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ May 9, 2008 -> 09:42 PM) Brian Anderson is a machine sent from the future to play baseball at an incredibly high level, look sexy as all hell while doing it and eventually destroy all man kind with his potent seed. Now that is insightful baseball analysis if I ever saw it.

I still think dollgate was an embarrasment. I also think this is great, whether anyone wants me to say so or not.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 9, 2008 -> 09:44 AM) Delmon Young seems to have lost some bat speed, resulting in less contact... Delmon Young has lost some power... It couldn't have happened to a better team.

Ok, good point. He may have thought Boone needed some work. I don't know. He did have Bobby in the pen if he needed him, and that's the part that didn't work out.

I went with Carlos and Gavin. Probably should have voted for Danks, but Floyd was raked over the coals here all winter.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 9, 2008 -> 08:41 AM) Little things like that takeout slide are what can really get a team going. I was almost happier to see that, versus Juan's two run dinger. Yes. That was a thing of beauty.

QUOTE (lostfan @ May 9, 2008 -> 08:45 AM) Well there was the time in Baltimore, when I was at the game, he had Matt Thornton relieve Floyd. I get up to go to the bathroom, I come back to find out he struck out whoever he was facing on three pitches and see Boone coming in from the bullpen. Boone proceeds to implode as he apparently temporarily forgot what a strike zone was, and they end up losing the game after Bobby blows the save. Ultimately that's on Bobby, but those are the kinds of things Ozzie does that piss me off. So Ozzie's supposed to foresee that Boone can't throw a strike and Bobby would blow a save?

I guess this proves Blue Oyster Cult was right.

QUOTE (Brian @ May 7, 2008 -> 08:48 PM) Cliff Lee goes 7 scoreless against the Yanks. ERA is a rather impressive .081 I miss the 2007 version of Cliff Lee.

I believe the individual states should continue to have the right to determine their own rules.

I'll think about this tomorrow.

QUOTE (santo=dorf @ May 7, 2008 -> 06:46 PM) To be fair, I don't consider myself "blasting" you. I was talking about the comments like "any guy who is offended by this should turn in their man card," or "panties being twisted." I think it's quite obvious my comments weren't along those lines. I just get a chuckle on how the minority feel they should dictate what the code of conduct should be in the locker room of a professional baseball team. It's even sillier to compare it to an office place or tie Sox fans themselves to the incidents along with the William Ligue and Eric Dybas incidents. Let's just agree to disagree.

QUOTE (santo=dorf @ May 7, 2008 -> 06:12 PM) Why? Because you and Tex are getting blasted with examples that show the Sox players shouldn't be called out and you finally have gotten off your morality high horse? I will give you credit, you're not baiting or creating strawman argument like Tex, but that's nothing new for him. I'll ask the people who are against this stunt, and they are in the minority, and I want an answer: Should the White Sox ban Grand Theft Auto IV from their clubhouse? I was going to stop responding to this thread but since you are calling me out, I'll make one last attempt to put things into perspective for you. The adjectives I used in this thread are as follows: embarrasing, classless, tasteless, vulgar, wrong ... I think that about covers it. Not at any time to did I refer to it being offensive to women or sexist. There was nothing along the lines of reasonable logic that I considered as being "blasted'. There were some stupid, inane remarks made that didn't deserve a response and got none from me. That will continue to be the case. I will not point out the remarks or persons that made them as I don't believe it would serve any purpose other than to degrade Soxtalk. I will however stand by my use of those adjectives listed above. And, in direct response to your intriguing question ... Because anything that will be said from this point forward with just be a rehashing of what has previously been said. Now sir, if you want to 'blast' me some more ... Take it to IM.

This thread should be mercifully closed.

QUOTE (santo=dorf @ May 6, 2008 -> 10:37 PM) You obviously have knowledge of what the White Sox's code of conduct is. How did you get that info and who made the rules? What the code of conduct is, apparently, and what it should should be are two different things.

QUOTE (santo=dorf @ May 6, 2008 -> 10:29 PM) The players work in the locker room? All reporters work for the White Sox? Every business has the same code of conduct? Who ultimately decides what should be in the locker room? Reporters? the owner? GM? Manager? Tax paying citizens? The state government? The feds? What's your point?

The work place. The place you report to on a daily basis to make your living. When you work for a company, you are always a representative of said company. In today's environment, in most cases, if you do something to publically embarrass your company you will lose your job unless your in a union of something. Even then, you will have a tough row to hoe. If you are the average working man, in almost all cases you'll be booted out on ass. I realize these guys aren't your average working man. But people, if you think you can pull a stunt like this on your job and get away with, for the most part you'll be seriously shocked upon your dismissal. The players won't be 'fired' because they can hit major league pitching (I know, arguable at best) or they can get out ML hitters. But, they still have to deal with public perception and they are under a microscope compared to average working guy. They really should have known better. The entire team is being scutinized because of the actions of a few. If these reports are going to report on what happens in the clubhouse, then do it. Who did what? Why should Jim Thome have to be thrown under the bus when Nick Swisher did this? (hypothetically speaking on the players names for the case of making the point) Wrong is wrong regardless of the circumstances under which the wrong occured.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 6, 2008 -> 09:37 AM) Its clear Pablo isnt the player he was at one point and he's on the wrong side of 30. I would also rather have a younger guy fill that role, and had mentioned it during ST. Agreed. Pablo was a decent bench player at point. I think his time has passed.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 6, 2008 -> 09:38 AM) Dont even try to convince us you havent owned one already Yas By next week, I'll have a harem.

Ok. I stand corrected. I'm convinced. There is nothing offensive about blow up dolls. In fact, I'm going to get offline and head over to visit my parents. I think I'll ask my mother for one for my birthday. Thanks for the enlightenment, guys. You've really opened my eyes.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 6, 2008 -> 09:28 AM) Sexual assault on a boat=typical clubhouse antics Ah yes, I see the similarity Do you not comprehend the part where I noted the differences between the two events? And when did blow up dolls in a ML locker room become "typical"?