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who gives a s*** about the cy young how bout they win a damn series? Seriously, hard for me to give half a s*** about a cy young when it looks like yet another season over before July.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 15, 2016 -> 06:52 PM) Who was it? I wonder how sarcastic that last question/comment was, how it came across? At least Ventura last night showed a willingness to change back to Shuck, which FINALLY happened again today. He pretty much had no choice, as there were no credible arguments left for leaving him out there in the field when it was causing so many problems for the pitchers, who are already struggling as is without giving additional opportunities to the opposition. he knows the end is near. dead man walking.

wait did eaton bunt down 4 runs? this team is so f***ing stupid. I've never seen a team that likes to play for one run so much. Guess what, play for one run, you get one run more often than not.

QUOTE (harkness @ Jun 14, 2016 -> 08:37 PM) I could agree with that... but "I can tell you guys have never managed before or played baseball" Not sure that would qualify. I played a lot of ball, little league, to American Legion, to showcases to eventually a really mediocre DIII career at my 1st choice academic school. I can certainly say that from my experience a good manager mattered. The players know when the manager isn't putting them in the best position to win. The players know when a manager is disorganized, or in contrast, organized. While I certainly never set foot in a pro clubhouse I did interact different levels of instructors and personnel on our college spring training trips. The level of organization between our s*** DIII outfit verse say a Florida juco draft factory was night and day. While such a difference is no doubt less pronounced at the MLB level I still believe that there is a difference between say John Maddon and RV. From practice drills on down to running team meetings.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jun 14, 2016 -> 07:42 PM) Trying to showcase Avi's outfield skills isn't going so hot lol not saying it's you by any means but WTF is this "showcasing" idea? We all know he sucks out there. How about just trying to win games, and that would mean not ever playing in RF except in an emergency. That they were one injury to an old ass, often injured player and boom he's right back out there 3-5 times a week is a huge failure to plan.

QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Jun 14, 2016 -> 07:34 PM) Yeah, let's stop discrediting Robin for the things he does right. on a regular basis, the lineup is not one of them. Shuck 5th and then PH for is classic RV.

QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Jun 14, 2016 -> 07:29 PM) I wouldn't. Robin makes the lineups. probably, but I can also see a pretty strong "get this kid the most PA possible" directive at the off day afternoon meeting.

QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Jun 14, 2016 -> 07:27 PM) I give Ventura a lot of crap & rightful so but I really like Anderson leading off & Eaton in the 2 hole. Imagine when Jackson comes back & hits 9th. Good blend, especially if/when they add that middle of the order power bat. I'd bet the directive came from above him to bat TA leadoff.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jun 14, 2016 -> 03:52 PM) Maybe it is , maybe it isn't. Some guys do better with guys on base. Concentration levels increase or whatever. Besides I am not arguing weather it's repeatable or not just that it's important. Of course stat geeks will argue that driving in runs is based solely on situation blah blah blah. But regardless it's still important to drive in runs . Can't win without scoring . The point is Avi has been valuable this year in that respect. He is making the most of the situations to score runs , better than anyone on the team. Talking about weather it's repeatable just clouds that fact. People talked about how Cespedes was inconsistent but his hitting with RISP was always good. There's something to be said for rising to the occasion. Weather or not you believe in clutch is up to you. It was easy to pick Cespedes as the best of the Big 3 FA OF's in the off season . You might think it was luck but not in my eyes. it's been proven, with stats, that it's not repeatable. Your attitude is like sticking your fingers in your ear and saying "2+2 isn't 4 it's 5". There is not a single data point that says "clutch" exists. Notice that I'm not claiming that "choking" doesn't exist. Just that no player has ever, ever been proven to be able to raise his game in any sort of statistically significant (I'm using this term in a very precise way in a statistical test application) way. Not a single one.

QUOTE (harkness @ Jun 14, 2016 -> 07:44 PM) Of course people with "inside information" have a scope others don't. But if every time people are going to disagree.. someone is going to play the "you haven't done it before card," then pretty much that eliminates most opinions as invalid in most walks of life. It's like... impossible to have direct experience of everything we have opinions on. The idea that some magic happens when you step into the dugout as a 25 man roster player and this same magic then qualifies you to work "inside the lines" as they say after your career is bats*** insane. Quite frankly I think if you were to create a suitably qualified candidate from thin air one of the last things I'd look for is pro playing experience. In fact, the Sox seemed to singularly focus on RV as a "players' manager" because he played the game at a high level for a long time and would thus know how to create an environment where others could excel. That logic is terribly, horribly, flawed. Sure, having played as a pro can be an asset for a manager. But it's hardly the most important qualification to hire on and IMO is probably one of the least important.

dead team walking, only a JR led franchise hasn't fired the coaching staff yet.

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Jun 13, 2016 -> 04:55 PM) Oh that's awesome Ventura, and you are basing this on what exactly? Same "thought process" that left him no other choice but to leave in Carroll against the Rangers -- just pray and wing it!

QUOTE (soxforlife05 @ Jun 13, 2016 -> 05:53 PM) I can't hate any manager who won a world series for the Sox. I can't hate ozzie but he's dead to me after the way he quit on the team. I thank him for his contributions as a player and manager but he can f*** off.

This team has a mental block in the division and it starts with the man in charge of these men. FIRE HIM NOW.

crazy as it sounds, for early june, this was a big win. Keeps the momentum going (this team is mentally fragile it seems so that should help) and helps bury KC some more.

Melky is locked in right now. some quick hands.

I HOPE THEY GET HOTTER THAN s***!

JB SHuck 5th just cracks me up. I bet La Roche, if he's watching, is laughing as well.

QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Jun 10, 2016 -> 08:07 PM) Don't let the salesman know that. When I bought my Focus back in 2001, I made my best offer and when they wouldn't meet it I walked away. About a week later they called me up on the phone and asked if I was still interested. I said yes, but only for the price I offered. They told me to come in, and met my price. Good luck! I'm often on the other side of the equation and my motto is "you never lose money making a sale". If nothing else you clear inventory for a more profitable one. I don't deal in huge investments like cars just computers but the principle is certainly the same. If you have a hard figure in mind there's no harm in being patient and seeing if the dealer can work with you.

it's a contagion!

hopefully the first of over 300 for his career as a Sox. God speed young man. We need you.

christ how desperate is Frank for money? Sounds like a book...I won't be buying.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 10, 2016 -> 07:46 PM) It's truly amazing how awful Hahn's free agent signings were it's more amazing how poor the farm system is.

holy f*** he missed that fastball but a good foot.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jun 10, 2016 -> 07:27 PM) That first inning reminded me why I quit watching. I'll watch til Anderson hits. f*** this s*** team. yea exactly, see my post above yours.